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Ivanka used private email for gov't business

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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 08:18 PM
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Before everyone goes off on a tangent there are a few things that should be cleared:

The first is what are the rules for such? After all many of the emails and government data, have rules that dictate how various offices and officials are to work, emails and what servers that they are to use. That needs to be determined.

The next is that if there are rules against such, what are the consequences for violating those rules?

And finally how many emails were sent out, and what all was in them?

There should be an investigation into this, ultimately to ensure that the evidence of any wrong doing is preserved and the punishment for breaking the rules clearly outlined.




posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: More1ThanAny1

originally posted by: soberbacchus
Her personal server was never hacked.


That is what you were led to believe...

www.foxnews.com...

Romanian hacker Guccifer: I breached Clinton server, 'it was easy'


www.foxnews.com...

Hacker who claims he breached Clinton server pleads guilty, strikes deal with feds

Still, Guccifer told Fox News specific details of the server's configuration and its apparent lack of security. He said he copied some files and posted them to his "Guccifer Archive" online. This is the kind of information the FBI could verify by examining the server or questioning Clinton IT specialist Bryan Pagliano, who has struck an immunity deal with the Justice Department.


I would believe the hacker who pleaded guilty to hacking other high-profile email accounts before I believe Hillary and her cabal. That is because Hillary has/had more to lose if the claims were true.


originally posted by: soberbacchus
Are you just confused? Or are you looking to deceive folks here on ATS?


I think you are confused. You were lead astray by biased media sources, and an official Clinton cover up. If Hillary and her team admitted that her email server was hacked, she would be guilty of mishandling of classified information, and it would have cost her the election (this information was being discussed mostly before the 2016 election).

I think I am just working with more information than you. Maybe you should step outside your comfort zone.


Garbage.

Guccifer claimed a lot of BS, including having hacked HRCs server.
The FBI, State Department and everyone else found no evidence of that.

What he did was hack Sidney Blumethal.



Although Guccifer only exposed emails Mr Blumenthal sent to Mrs Clinton, not her replies, it did reveal the secretary of state's private email address two years before the New York Times made it a national story.

www.bbc.com...

TO BE CLEAR, Guccifer claimed to have posted emails from the hack on his website.
What was posted was emails fro Sidney Blumethal to Clinton.

You appear to be a fountain of Fake News.


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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: sdcigarpig

The first is what are the rules for such?


Clear rules for records preservation and accountability and oversight.
Ivanka was briefed on this when she became a Whitehouse Emplyee.
If that briefing didn't register, maybe she wondered once or twice why all the RWNJs at her fathers rallies were chanting "lock her up" for two years.



The next is that if there are rules against such, what are the consequences for violating those rules?


If it was unintentional, no consequences apart from rectifying the actions (turning over WH emails) and not repeating the activity.

If intentional (hiding topics, negotiations, issues from transparency and gov) or to share classified data for espionage purposes, then prosecution.



And finally how many emails were sent out, and what all was in them?


That is what investigations determine.




There should be an investigation into this, ultimately to ensure that the evidence of any wrong doing is preserved and the punishment for breaking the rules clearly outlined.


Agreed.
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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus
Guccifer claimed a lot of BS, including having hacked HRCs server.
The FBI, State Department and everyone else found no evidence of that.


Of course the FBI and State Department claimed it found no evidence. At the time the FBI and State Department was compromised and focused on protecting Hillary's election. Unfortunately, you swallowed everything they spoon fed you.


originally posted by: soberbacchus
What he did was hack Sidney Blumethal.


Yes he sure did, and he hacked many others. He also uncovered Clinton's email address in the process. We know he saw messages sent to and received from Clinton, and when you receive an email from somebody you can see the IP address of the email server in the email header data. With that IP he was able to scan Clinton's email server for vulnerabilities. We know he found vulnerabilities. It isn't rocket science when the server is almost wide open.


originally posted by: soberbacchus
TO BE CLEAR, Guccifer claimed to have posted emails from the hack on his website.
What was posted was emails fro Sidney Blumethal to Clinton.


You don't find it odd he only posted emails from Blumethal to Clinton? You think Clinton never sent Blumethal any emails? lol... You are very gullible.


originally posted by: soberbacchus
You appear to be a fountain of Fake News.


So says the one parroting the popular storyline inherited from his controllers.
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posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: More1ThanAny1

originally posted by: soberbacchus
Guccifer claimed a lot of BS, including having hacked HRCs server.
The FBI, State Department and everyone else found no evidence of that.


Of course the FBI and State Department claimed it found no evidence.


Nope.

NO ONE on planet earth found any evidence that Guccifer or anyone else hacked HRCs server.

Again, Guccifer claimed to have hacked Clinton's server (according to Fox News).
He offered as proof emails from Sidney Blumenthal to Clinton...But NOTHING else.
Everyone already knew he hacked Sidney Blumenthal's email.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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At the time of Senate confirmation hearings on Hillary Clinton's nomination as Secretary of State, the domain names clintonemail.com, wjcoffice.com, and presidentclinton.com were registered to Eric Hoteham,[20] with the home of Clinton and her husband in Chappaqua, New York, as the contact address..[21][22] The domains were pointed to a private email server that Clinton (who never had a state.gov email account) used to send and receive email, and which was purchased and installed in the Clintons' home for her 2008 presidential campaign.[23]

The email server was located in the Clintons' home in Chappaqua, New York, from January 2009 until 2013, when it was sent to a data center in New Jersey before being handed over to Platte River Networks, a Denver-based information technology firm that Clinton hired to manage her email system


Wikipedia

Hillary's email server resided at the same IP address at which wjcoffice.com and presidentclinton.com were also directed.

I was not just emails that Guccifer managed to get a hold of from Sydney to Hillary:


These new doodles, hacked by the politically-minded Guccifer and published for the first time here on Gawker, appear to be the Bill Clinton doodles that the world has patiently been waiting for.

Presidential doodles are commonly made public, and were even the subject of a book, "Presidential Doodlings," but for years, the Clinton Foundation has refused requests through its press office.

Guccifer already unleashed presidential artistry on the world when he hacked George W. Bush earlier this year. This time, it appears he hacked into the Clinton Library's files, retrieving the scans from a folder called "wjcdrawings".


Here's Some New Hacked Presidential Art From The Clinton White House - Gawker 12/04/2013



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus
NO ONE on planet earth found any evidence that Guccifer or anyone else hacked HRCs server.


I posted this earlier...

www.washingtontimes.com...

In one instance in 2011, Mrs. Clinton’s tech guru thought the server was being hacked and shut it down for a few minutes. Months later, Mrs. Clinton feared yet another hack attack was underway — yet never reported the incident to the department, in another breach of department rules.


I would say that is evidence right there... Clinton's own IT thought the server was being hacked on multiple occasions, enough to require a shutdown to stop the hacker.

Unless of course he is not a very good IT guy and was mistaken. However, if he was not a good IT guy then maybe the server really was wide open to attacks, and he was too bad at his job to realize it really was being hacked.

You can't have it both ways. He was either a good IT guy and they really were hacked, or he was a bad IT guy and they really were susceptible to hacks and don't really know how to detect a hack.

That is not as good of evidence as the Clinton doodles though.

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posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 04:35 PM
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www.fbi.gov


Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail account.



edit on 23-11-2018 by More1ThanAny1 because: (no reason given)




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