1.5 degree rise in body temp would kill you, just like it would kill the earth!

originally posted by: ConsciousRoots
It's a fact, our world will die. We are killing the planet. We have nearly killed everything, we have destroyed our soils, we have rapped our oceans, we have mutilated our grasslands, we have pillaged our forests. We have disrupted the chemical balance of this planet and we have destroyed it.

I think life has been wipeout and renewed many times over in the last 4 billion years. Maybe it is time for the dinos to make a return visit.

originally posted by: ConsciousRoots
a reply to: Scifi2424

I'm having a child because the world needs people who can save it. My child will learn the right ways and play a big part in saving this planet.

It's obvious, look at the coral reefs, look at the Great Barrier Reef in Australia, it will be gone in 10 years! ocean plants produce up to 80% of the oxygen we breath and we are killing them all. I live beside the ocean, I've grown up on the ocean and it's dying!! It's changing. Rivers that feed the oceans are full of the sh** we spray on our farms and flush down our sinks and wash out of our factories. Things that have not been around for a long time. We are foolish to think we aren't changing the chemical balance.
Look how many god dam people live on this planet!! never has there been this many people on this planet.
Looks at the Amazon, look at the 730,000 square KM that we have chopped.
Looks at all the crap in your supermarkets, looks at all the plastic it's wrapped in!!!

Although I agree with the conclusion that the corporate/government continually lies about "global warming" and so on, for their own selfish reasons of course, I also agree with your sentiments as well.

I think the main issue is chemical toxins being introduced that have adverse effects on biological lifeforms and either prevent reproduction, cause severe mutations and deformities, or last for an extremely long time and end up harming everything over a period of centuries in a slow-kill way.

I agree there are too many people because everyone thinks they "need a job" and "needs all this technology" and "wastes too much" and the toll is being taken on our environment. All these farms, the destruction of forests or ocean ecosystems, etc.

Like nuclear contaminants - that stuff was never found in the environment naturally before we introduced them. This is extremely concerning because we have no clue what the effects of our pollution will be in 100 years, 500 years, or even in 5000 years.

Where humanity is in 5000 years matters just as much as it matters today or tomorrow. We need to be far more prudent and think ahead.

All of this dumping and industrial pollution, the nuclear pollution, the clear-cutting and paving everything with concrete - it's not sustainable for very long. They will all discover eventually that greed leads to destruction, whether they want to figure this out or not doesn't matter, death will figure this all out for us and then teach us the lesson no matter how hard we resist it.

The way that people just blow you off and insult you with small minded comments just proves to me that people fear the truth.

The Dodo bird is one of my favorite examples, because most of these people think that bird was stupid and so it died of it's own accord. But the reality is that it is we humans who were the Dodo, we are the ones creating our own personal destruction because we are not compassionate towards other life forms on this planet. We think we are the only thing that matters, and this will be our undoing.

Humans need the ecosystem, we need all the other species of animals and plants, they aren't just there for convenience. They are part of the cycles of nature that make life possible for us here on this planet.

The fact that even 1 species went extinct as a direct result of our behavior is an atrocity against ourselves.

We are suppose to be the caretakers and guardians of this world, not it's destroyers. All anyone cares about though is acquiring material wealth, social power over others, money and stuff. But if we, as a species, don't change our ways soon - we will all being going the way of the Dodo.

It's plain and obvious and people arguing BS about temperatures or whatever contrived political gibberish will not distract me from the very real indisputable reality that we are polluting the # outta this planet at a very fast rate. Hell, we don't even need pollution to kill life on this world, we have weapons of mass destruction and knowingly purposely build and stockpile them because we are so fearful of each other that we are preparing to end the world at the press of a button ON PURPOSE if necessary. How the hell could that be necessary?

My God we humans are completely insane and terribly ignorant.

originally posted by: ConsciousRoots
a reply to: Scifi2424
I'm having a child because the world needs people who can save it. My child will learn the right ways and play a big part in saving this planet.

Why not adopt a child rather than increase the population further? I don't mean to be harsh, but I ask the same thing of people who insist on buying their dog/cat from a breeder.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: ConsciousRoots
It's a fact, our world will die. We are killing the planet. We have nearly killed everything, we have destroyed our soils, we have rapped our oceans, we have mutilated our grasslands, we have pillaged our forests. We have disrupted the chemical balance of this planet and we have destroyed it.

I think life has been wipeout and renewed many times over in the last 4 billion years. Maybe it is time for the dinos to make a return visit.

That doesn't mean it will automatically be renewed though.

A lot of people think there "used to be" life on Mars and that it was all wiped out. Now there are just rocks and debris.

When life is wiped out there is zero guarantees that it will be brought back in new ways. Zero.
The next mass extinction could be total and complete and that's it, game over for life on Earth permanently.

And besides that, even if we did have a guarantee that life would restart, I don't want to see mass extinctions. We already have too much ecosystem destruction going on already.

originally posted by: muzzleflash


That doesn't mean it will automatically be renewed though.

A lot of people think there "used to be" life on Mars and that it was all wiped out. Now there are just rocks and debris.

That is called the inner core hardening. It loss its magnetic protection and the atmosphere bled off over billion of years, also Mars is just outside of the Goldilocks Zone so it would be harder still if its core was still liquid.

When life is wiped out there is zero guarantees that it will be brought back in new ways. Zero.
The next mass extinction could be total and complete and that's it, game over for life on Earth permanently.

That is BS.. Life started very early in earths history, was wiped out a number of times. Go back 600 million years with snowball earth and life was reset back basic levels to see massive explosion of life once again a few 100 million years later.

a reply to: ConsciousRoots

Lol. One has nothing to do with the other. Chemical River pollution is real agw is not...

It's still not killing the planet though and the US is one of the world's least offenders of chemical pollution..

Yeah I'm so glad to hear you're going to indoctrinate your child in bulls hit... That's all we need is some more little morons running around spouting nonsense trying to # up freedom for everyone..


Jaden

Oh, please. Stop wringing your hands. The Earth has endured far higher temperatures than exist today. If the Earth warmed up you'd see bracken ferns 60 feet tall.

a reply to: ConsciousRoots

A body temp of 100.1 is not fatal.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: muzzleflash


That doesn't mean it will automatically be renewed though.

A lot of people think there "used to be" life on Mars and that it was all wiped out. Now there are just rocks and debris.

That is called the inner core hardening. It loss its magnetic protection and the atmosphere bled off over billion of years, also Mars is just outside of the Goldilocks Zone so it would be harder still if its core was still liquid.

When life is wiped out there is zero guarantees that it will be brought back in new ways. Zero.
The next mass extinction could be total and complete and that's it, game over for life on Earth permanently.

That is BS.. Life started very early in earths history, was wiped out a number of times. Go back 600 million years with snowball earth and life was reset back basic levels to see massive explosion of life once again a few 100 million years later.

I don't think there's a Goldilocks zone, that's a Earth centrist view. There could be life on Pluto or Jupiter for all we know. We discovered life at the bottom of the ocean around volcanic vents, so that pretty much put the whole concept that a planet has to be just like the surface of Earth to host life into the trash bin.

It's not BS that there is no guarantee. I honestly cannot believe that you are taking the side that "every extinction is followed by a guaranteed rebirth", I mean yeah it's possible that life can make a resurgence but it's not automatically guaranteed.

And to assume we know what happened to Mars a billion years ago, it's pretentious and silly. We don't actually even know Earth's history very well yet much less a planet we have barely even studied at all from a vast distance.

Wait a minute, are you being sarcastic?

Its only a matter of time before the wise who laughed at the silenced fool, will be silent themselves.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Goldilock Zone does not refer to "where life is"

It is a zone from a star in which water can exist as a liquid on a surface of a body in orbit around that star, as long as other conditions are met (surface temps on the planet are correct, and enough atmospheric pressure).

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: ConsciousRoots

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: ConsciousRoots

So what is your solution?

TheRedneck

We can start by putting all the farts back into the cows, or at least slap a balloon on their ass to capture it until we can turn it into clean energy.

How about we just stop eating them

I am not eating a cow fart thank you very much!

Ummm...did you know that when you smell a cow fart...your actually inhaling teensy tiny pieces of poo...?

Cool fact that...

Transversly...if your a mouth breather...you actually are...eating cow farts...

Cooler fact that...


Stay hydrated my friend...





YouSir

originally posted by: muzzleflash



I don't think there's a Goldilocks zone, that's a Earth centrist view. There could be life on Pluto or Jupiter for all we know. We discovered life at the bottom of the ocean around volcanic vents, so that pretty much put the whole concept that a planet has to be just like the surface of Earth to host life into the trash bin.

Life in general yes I agree, but it seems the more advance life becomes the more fragile it also becomes as it needs a rather stable environment for evolution to do its magic.

It's not BS that there is no guarantee. I honestly cannot believe that you are taking the side that "every extinction is followed by a guaranteed rebirth", I mean yeah it's possible that life can make a resurgence but it's not automatically guaranteed.

I think life is guaranteed under the right conditions. I think life is just a fundamental chemical reaction throughout the universe, but certain conditions are needed like water in the liquid form. Remember "life" is just a human term...

And to assume we know what happened to Mars a billion years ago, it's pretentious and silly. We don't actually even know Earth's history very well yet much less a planet we have barely even studied at all from a vast distance.

Well we do know that it's core is solid, we do know what a solid core would do to a planet, we do know it's atmosphere has been bleeding off for an extremely long time and it is still doing it...


We also know that Mars average temperature is -67F and that can range from 68F to -243F...not good numbers for life..

originally posted by: ConsciousRoots
It's a fact, our world will die. We are killing the planet. We have nearly killed everything, we have destroyed our soils, we have rapped our oceans, we have mutilated our grasslands, we have pillaged our forests. We have disrupted the chemical balance of this planet and we have destroyed it.

Please read this article on the IPCC climate change report which was released today...

www.theguardian.com...

This is turning into one of those doomsday films from the early 2000's, those sh**ty films we all laughed at or rolled our eyes at. IT'S REAL.

My wife is pregnant with our first and it's looking like it'll miss out on all the beauty in the world that I have experienced and all humans since the dawn of humanity. It pains me.

Sorry, that's not at all how it works. Find better doom porn.

It confuses me how some cultures do not live in harmony w nature.

a reply to: muzzleflash

I don't think there's a Goldilocks zone, that's a Earth centrist view.

In that case, I don't think the internal combustion engine exists.

There is indeed a 'Goldilocks Zone,' regardless of your belief. The 'Goldilocks Zone' is simply an area of space where solar radiation allows water to exist in a liquid state. Maybe it is 'earth centrist,' but so is everything else we have... we live on the Earth!

As for Mars, no, we don't know the full history of it. However, we do know that it does not have an appreciable magnetic field, and that allows for the solar wind to strip the atmosphere away over time. We also know that under a lack of atmospheric pressure, water vapor will evaporate into space. Ergo, the lack of a magnetic field is the reason Mars is dry on the surface (there is the possibility that water exists under the surface).

Since we believe the Earth's magnetic field is caused by a liquid iron core, we can assume that Mars lacks such a core. Since Mars apparently once had a liquid iron core, it is logical to assume it has solidified. Those are assumptions based on present knowledge. The preceding paragraph is facts which are well-established.

TheRedneck

long story short - we're done here. yay us!

originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: caterpillage
Is that why every time i get a fever i die?

Yes, RIP for next time dude.

😢

OP SHOULD've been titled "Fevers Are Proof Reincarnation Is Real".

originally posted by: nOraKat
It confuses me how some cultures do not live in harmony w nature.

It confuses me how some cultures do not live in harmony with machines.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: muzzleflash

I don't think there's a Goldilocks zone, that's a Earth centrist view.

In that case, I don't think the internal combustion engine exists.

The internal combustion engine is a technology that is a real physical object that exists.

The "Goldilocks Zone" is a concept conveying "It's in the middle so it's Just Right", with the implication that it's "Just Right" for us humans.

That doesn't mean it's just right for random hypothetical alien species.

We don't know anything about aliens, it's all speculative.

False Equivalence