1.5 degree rise in body temp would kill you, just like it would kill the earth!

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

No. That is not an assertion which I hold with. But it is one which is commonly made here with serious intent rather than sarcastic.

a reply to: Phage
Ah gotcha, it is sometimes difficult to assume debate intent through the medium of text alone.
Venus seems hostile to life to me but I've never been there so I have to base any opinion on third parties who claim to have with probes etc.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

I've never seen the Great Wall of China. I think there is such a thing though.

a reply to: Phage
I have mates who have been there, on both sides, I believe them when they say it exists...I trust them.
I'd say you are right to believe it exists if I had to bet my house.
EDIT
I know China exists because I've stared out Chinese border guards from the Laos side when I didn't have a visa to enter.
Balance of probabilities between my personal knowledge of the existence of China, and my mate's testimonies regarding the Great wall, I'd say it exists.

a reply to: ConsciousRoots

I think the trend of temperature increases over past decades is a side effect of droughts.

Less clouds shading the heat of high noon...

I've come across some statistics that state droughts occur sometimes due to over population of a locality.

I wonder why that happens...

You would think more people would be pumping out their co2 and making more cool clouds...

Hmm...

a reply to: ConsciousRoots

www.theaustralian.com.au... 54d65cf3e725085

global temperature deviations since 2007 had easily fallen within the natural level of variation, and “no change” was the most accurate way to describe global weather patterns over the past decade.

“When you lack scientific evidence, the primary way to keep ‘global warming’ alive is to avoid having a testable hypothesis,” Professor Armstrong said, mocking how some observers had “touted the extremely cold weather that occurred in January (in the northern hemisphere) as another piece of evidence of global warming”.

“Basing public policy on failed alarmist scenarios is irrational, and is causing enormous harm.”

The issue is that through our industrial activities we are causing effects to occur within the global habitat; and that global habitat is where you and I and everyone else, including all other life forms, live out our lives. This is something you may have noticed?

Now, depending on where you live on the planet, you will have habituated to that locality's stable climate, but what you may also have noticed over the last few years, certainly over the last decade, is that your local climate's stability has increasingly experienced brief disruptive episodes of instability. I'm not simply talking about seasonal storms seemingly feeling more intense, I'm talking about periods of warmth when it should normally be cooler, and periods of cooling when it should be warm. This is the kind of disruption I am talking about.

The occurrence of these brief disruptive episodes should not really be any cause of alarm, but the fact is, they are not occurring as one off events, but are now frequently occurring all around the planet. These odd events happen when climate circulation patterns are diverted from their normal circulatory systems by some additional ingredient, and that additional ingredient is energy in the form of extra heat. The keyword here is 'additional'.

Without some form of additional force, the climate's fine-tuned stability would continue unabated, but as you have seen, believers and deniers equally, disruption is occurring and affecting our weather systems. We can say that we are in a period of a global climate disruptive phase, which if we continue with our polluting industrial activities, will eventually lead to a full-on climate change.

Everyday our unchecked global industries take us closer to overwhelming the fine-tuned climate system, such that natural self-triggering feedback systems will kick in, and if they do, we are talking decades before they calm down. These self-triggering feedback systems will produce effects that will make our local climates very uncomfortable, and our local environments harder to live in.

Uncomfortable and harder to live in. That is what each of you have to integrate into your experience. You need to assimilate it into your mindset. It is only from that vista that you can gain a real perspective of what is coming at us.

We have animals, plants, insects, etc. that can survive temperature swings of 60 degrees in a SINGLE DAY!

a reply to: ConsciousRoots

My body temperature goes up by 2-3 degrees every day when I do my morning run. I'm not dead.

Nuff said.

originally posted by: ConsciousRoots
It's a fact, our world will die. We are killing the planet. We have nearly killed everything, we have destroyed our soils, we have rapped our oceans, we have mutilated our grasslands, we have pillaged our forests. We have disrupted the chemical balance of this planet and we have destroyed it.

Please read this article on the IPCC climate change report which was released today...

www.theguardian.com...

This is turning into one of those doomsday films from the early 2000's, those sh**ty films we all laughed at or rolled our eyes at. IT'S REAL.

My wife is pregnant with our first and it's looking like it'll miss out on all the beauty in the world that I have experienced and all humans since the dawn of humanity. It pains me.

Well: your heart is probably in the right place, but 'tis no fact.
We don't 'know' if, or how the world will die, and it's not 'our' world.
We are not killing the planet.
We haven't nearly killed everything.

The soil is not 'our' soil.
The oceans are not 'our' oceans.
The grasslands are not 'our' grasslands.
The forests are not 'our' forests.

We can't 'save' the planet.
Pollution however: maybe we can do something about that.

Maybe we should start by figuring-out how to stop electing the unending stream of c*sucker politicians, whom are in bed with banksters, the MIC, and polluting corporations, no?

a reply to: SpartanStoic

Didnt you read the OP?

You should RUN like this every morning:



Especially considering how many times per year construction workers, etc laborers, especially in the south, how many times they all each DIE per year is mind boggling. Hazard pay isnt enough!

a reply to: ConsciousRoots

You sir are full of crap but congrats on new child .me and mine just had a new arrival all over a week ago. But a 2 degree rise or lowering of the bodies temperature will not necessarily kill you what you have never had a fever or chills. The earth during the time of the dinosaurs had a higher temperature than the earth does now and the dinos were fine with it what killed them was a sudden severe decrease in amount of food caused by an object throwing up vast amounts of dust into sky after a major impact.. I myself have personally had a of 104 for several days before with no permanent effects and I have a female friend who as long as I have known her has had a body temp of between 90 to 93 degrees Fahrenheit her skin is cold to the touch and she has to constantly wear a coat even when outside it's 100+ degrees but that's due to a condition she has had for decades.

a reply to: ConsciousRoots

It's a fact our world will not die, in fact, the world will go on. Maybe not with humans, but it will go on as it has for billions of years, it will purge itself of species that make it toxic.

So look at the bright side the earth will still be here.

Temperature rise is not a problem. Ask the one percent. They are sure they have the means to survive any environmental disaster, though they might end up as the only ones left. Homo Sapiens has had a very small gene pool before, and it just might get it again. Maybe it will produce useful mutations; those what will give man the ability to live in harmony with nature rather than destroy it over riches that bring nothing to the table.

originally posted by: ConsciousRoots
we have rapped our oceans

The ocean feels my motion there ain't nothin' to compete
when I take chances, my mind dances, ain't nobody can defeat
I'll take yo water, like yo daughter, coz I bought her, wassup fool?
I'll surprise yo eyes, wid salty cries, too much chlorine in my pool.

*waves hands in the air*
*drowns*

A 1.5 degree raise in body temperature will not kill you in fact, lower range fevers (below 103F will help the immune system) and people can survive temperatures much higher......... If a 1.5 degree change in internal temperatures would kill you we as a specials would be long gone

for reference 98.6F or 37C is considered a normal average temp

originally posted by: ConsciousRoots
It's a fact, our world will die. We are killing the planet.

So, which is it, are you wanting to discuss facts, or hyperbolic doom porn that is based on extremist thinking?

My wife is pregnant with our first and it's looking like it'll miss out on all the beauty in the world that I have experienced and all humans since the dawn of humanity. It pains me.

Oh, extremist hyperbole.

Got it.

Hmmm... I Think that a PERMANENT increase in bodytemp
would be rather harmful. Lets say 38.5c and never lowering...

Medicaly speaking stuff will happen...

Isnt that what global warming idea is about, a permanent increase?!

Yup those people can and will probably die, the earth is pretty good at self correction.
I live in the middle of no where in a land filled with natural bounty.

Shame on me for not even thinking of or even considering the plight of city folk.
O wait I won’t miss em.
a reply to: Phage

Damn.

I'll die if I use a sauna or a hot tub?

OH the freggin humanity!