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Are TPTB, NWO, Globalists, trying to help us?

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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:07 PM
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Could globalism be a good thing? Could one-world government and New World Order be something we should strive for?

I had a hard time finding exactly what the one-world, globalist, NWO agenda is about, and why we should fear it--or if it even exists. Most of my searches led to shady blogs and annoying youtube vids.

There is Agenda 21 however:



In a nutshell, the plan calls for governments to take control of all land use and not leave any of the decision making in the hands of private property owners. It is assumed that people are not good stewards of their land and the government will do a better job if they are in control. Individual rights in general are to give way to the needs of communities as determined by the governing body.

www.postsustainabilityinstitute.org...


If there is one program in mind to inventory and control the earth's resources with no borders, then there are probably a dozen more outlines and proponents we haven't heard of.

There is also a liberalism push for equality, rights, and border-less lands, all in the hands of government control. It is an idyllic thought, to weave peace between all races, ethnicities, genders, orientations, languages, and worldviews.

So why is there a struck cord of discontent and fear every time we hear about globalism or one-world government?

Could it be that the UN and liberal front are trying to help humanity in a way never conceived? Could it be that they hold a secret card and know how to play it?

You may recall a long time ago I wrote a little thread about Star Trek and Gene Roddenberry. Diving into Gene's life and history, I found a couple circumstantial clues that led me to believe he might have had insider knowledge, prophetic vision, or perhaps a combination of both.

Star Trek lore is built around a one-world government, that finds itself in an even bigger organization known as the Federation of Planets.


The United Federation of Planets...was an interstellar federal republic, composed of planetary governments that agreed to exist semi-autonomously under a single central government based on the principles of universal liberty, rights, and equality, and to share their knowledge and resources in peaceful cooperation, scientific development, space exploration and defensive purposes.

memory-alpha.wikia.com...


There are stipulations for joining the secret special interplanetary clubhouse though:



There are three main requirements:

A sufficiently advanced level of scientific technology. The Federation’s baseline is that the prospective member world has achieved some form of faster-than-light space travel capability.

One planet, one government. In other words, a system where individual nations have been unified under a single governing body.

No form of caste discrimination allowed.

www.quora.com...


One planet, one government, no discrimination must be in place before the galactic community considers making contact. Of course it would make sense if a planet has reached beyond their solar system as well.

Was Gene trying to usher in an ideology that fits into a larger community? Are TPTB struggling to unite a planet for a greater good?

Are we, the resistant heathens, stopping Earth's progress by fearing the one-world agenda?

Were the New World Order trying to help us all along?




Thoughts? Discussion?

What is really going on?




edit on 10-6-2018 by NarcolepticBuddha because: (no reason given)




posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:20 PM
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Scripture described NWO thousands of years ago. It's not good. It sets up government as god. Is that what you want, an evil god?



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: visitedbythem
Is that what you want, an evil god?


When you assume, you make an ass out of u and me...but mostly you.

I don't want anything, other than discussion of course.

This thread is mostly an exercise in thought.

Thanks for sharing your viewpoint though.



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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:34 PM
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They are trying to steal your property and make you a slave.
They give less than a rat's ass about your well being or survival.
They see you as an inferior being and you and your kind should be exterminated if you are no use in their plan to have complete economic dominance.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Have a listen to this. Was a talk by a Dr. In 1969 and was on what the NWO had planned for the future. Most of it has already come true. This is part 1.



Eta. Here is the report from Iron Mountain, originally leaked in 1967, though I think the whole thing was initially started in 1959. Again, it is scary what has come to fruition.

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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:45 PM
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originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha
Could globalism be a good thing? Could one-world government and New World Order be something we should strive for?

I had a hard time finding exactly what the one-world, globalist, NWO agenda is about, and why we should fear it--or if it even exists. Most of my searches led to shady blogs and annoying youtube vids.

There is Agenda 21 however:



In a nutshell, the plan calls for governments to take control of all land use and not leave any of the decision making in the hands of private property owners. It is assumed that people are not good stewards of their land and the government will do a better job if they are in control. Individual rights in general are to give way to the needs of communities as determined by the governing body.

www.postsustainabilityinstitute.org...


If there is one program in mind to inventory and control the earth's resources with no borders, then there are probably a dozen more outlines and proponents we haven't heard of.

There is also a liberalism push for equality, rights, and border-less lands, all in the hands of government control. It is an idyllic thought, to weave peace between all races, ethnicities, genders, orientations, languages, and worldviews.

So why is there a struck cord of discontent and fear every time we hear about globalism or one-world government?

Could it be that the UN and liberal front are trying to help humanity in a way never conceived? Could it be that they hold a secret card and know how to play it?

You may recall a long time ago I wrote a little thread about Star Trek and Gene Roddenberry. Diving into Gene's life and history, I found a couple circumstantial clues that led me to believe he might have had insider knowledge, prophetic vision, or perhaps a combination of both.

Star Trek lore is built around a one-world government, that finds itself in an even bigger organization known as the Federation of Planets.


The United Federation of Planets...was an interstellar federal republic, composed of planetary governments that agreed to exist semi-autonomously under a single central government based on the principles of universal liberty, rights, and equality, and to share their knowledge and resources in peaceful cooperation, scientific development, space exploration and defensive purposes.

memory-alpha.wikia.com...


There are stipulations for joining the secret special interplanetary clubhouse though:



There are three main requirements:

A sufficiently advanced level of scientific technology. The Federation’s baseline is that the prospective member world has achieved some form of faster-than-light space travel capability.

One planet, one government. In other words, a system where individual nations have been unified under a single governing body.

No form of caste discrimination allowed.

www.quora.com...


One planet, one government, no discrimination must be in place before the galactic community considers making contact. Of course it would make sense if a planet has reached beyond their solar system as well.

Was Gene trying to usher in an ideology that fits into a larger community? Are TPTB struggling to unite a planet for a greater good?

Are we, the resistant heathens, stopping Earth's progress by fearing the one-world agenda?

Were the New World Order trying to help us all along?




Thoughts? Discussion?

What is really going on?



You are correct in your direction...a One World TRUE DEMOCRACY is where we must be before we will be accepted off-planet......and besides if we dont form this type of group we will likely lose our cultures and societies to Earth Changes sooner than later....you see a true democracy can only exist if EVERY SINGLE LIVING HUMAN ON EARTH HAS A NAME AND A REAL TIME VOTE IN THE REAL TIME EVENTS HAPPENING WITHIN THE GROUP.....ou see DEMOCRACY WAS CONCIEVED AND DESIGNED TO BE EXPRESSED AS A GLOBAL MODEL and it WILL NEVER EVER WORK ON ANY OTHER LEVEL OR IN ANY OTHER WAYS.....EveryMan and EveryWoman and EveryChild MUST HAVE A RECORDED RECOGNISED NAME ON THE RECORD AND MUST BE REQUIRED TO VOTE IN REAL TIME ON REAL TIME ISSUES.....this ability has only recently been re-gifted to Humanity via the Internet and real time global communication capablity .

We just cannot allow a One World Government to ever ever be catalysed without EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ON EARTH HAVING A TANGIBLE NAMED REAL TIME VOTE IN WHAT WE DO AS A GROUP....and TPTB very well know that they are in a desperate RACE because if some smart cookie like Elon Musk decides to grow the hades up and use his Legacy properly and recruits a few buddies they could enable this Global Democracy in short order.





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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:52 PM
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I merely asked a question. No assumption here. You must have assumed something else.
Go back to sleep Bhodi.


originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha

originally posted by: visitedbythem
Is that what you want, an evil god?


When you assume, you make an ass out of u and me...but mostly you.

I don't want anything, other than discussion of course.

This thread is mostly an exercise in thought.

Thanks for sharing your viewpoint though.

Joining a larger community under a one-world government doesn't mean it's a good thing. But do TPTB think it's a good thing? Probably, they think they are our gods, yes.





posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:53 PM
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I don’t want global governance. I don’t want more rules and laws, especially those made by someone half way across the world. If you want to see how authoritarianism and beauracracy are bad simply look at the EU.

Freedom and liberty aren’t a part of global governance where the collective is put over the rights of the individual.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 05:56 PM
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Tell me, honestly, when have those in power ever wanted freedom and prosperity for the populous? They even want to do away with individual freedom in the US....

I applaud you for trying to think out of the box, but when you do...don't just dream, use logic and wisdom.


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posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:01 PM
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originally posted by: theatreboy
Tell me, honestly, when have those in power ever wanted freedom and prosperity for the populous? They even want to do away with individual freedom in the US....

I applaud you for trying to think out of the box, but when you do...don't just dream, us logic and wisdom.



That's right. Absolute power corrupts absolutely



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:02 PM
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Do you seriously believe that a worldwide government taking over my house will lead to peace and prosperity for all mankind? SMH.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:05 PM
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There has always been some kind of SIG structure that defines the NWO which makes it very compartmentalized and difficult to understand. I think Lockheed Martin and TRW tried to do an in depth investigation of all the different entities, but reached their limits.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:11 PM
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US govt has trouble ruling effectively over just 3.7 million sq miles.

Why should I think they can rule effectively over 197 million sq miles.

Some paper pusher that doesn't answer to anyone will end up screwing over people they don't like to line their pockets at the expense of the little people.

(as society sits today)

so not just no, but God no to globalist style one world govt. At least when they really screw the pooch now we can get them out of office.

Heck just look at the EU right now, whats the process for getting the people in Brussels out of their?



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:11 PM
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As I pointed out in another thread (that I made on Imperialism) the question that should be asked is:

"Do you believe that this current movement towards Globalism is a good thing without know who will ultimately be in control of the movement, or do you feel that a nationalistic approach to world affairs where people should care for their own countries first and the world second is a better way to go?"


That's the jist of your question, Who would be in control of a Globalist Empire? The other half of your question is about the personal identity of removing world cultures and replacing them with a singular culture? Does that provide any advantage to the world, or does that just strip away what makes us useful in the world?



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: Guyfriday

Its a catch 22, to eventually get into the deep regions of space we will have to combine resources to get it done, something like a star league, federation etc will be needed.


But as we have seen in the EU corruption, unilateral decisions by people not living in your country hurting your local economy forces us to resort to nationalism to try and preserve our way of life.


How we get from here to there I have no idea, it may take an alien space ship landing on the white house lawn and actively working with us to make that step.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:20 PM
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I know what we can do....... built sophisticated and advanced robots and put them in charge. The robots could answer to the Rothschild and rockafellers



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Star Trek also shows it as a utopian thing.

Most One World schemes seek to achieve the leveling through a small group of very wealthy elites who remain that way at the expense of lowering everyone else down. No one is brought up.

And you lose your personal control.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Guyfriday

Its a catch 22, to eventually get into the deep regions of space we will have to combine resources to get it done, something like a star league, federation etc will be needed.



No we don't, The US got to the Moon without having China and the USSR helping out, and currently we have a number of private companies in the US that can go into space without making it a multi-national endeavor.

But as we have seen in the EU corruption, unilateral decisions by people not living in your country hurting your local economy forces us to resort to nationalism to try and preserve our way of life.


Much of those same issues is what happens when you try to have a single global power (ie EU vs Individual allies)


How we get from here to there I have no idea, it may take an alien space ship landing on the white house lawn and actively working with us to make that step.

Or it could take nothing more then one country just setting up their space game.

One of the ills that Star Trek created is the false notion that space can't be explored unless the planet comes together as a single government. What's not looked at is that the Earth under the UFP is also a socialist planet. So sure if we give up all of our rights to a single governing body, and provided that that government doesn't just enslave everyone, then sure maybe we can go live that Star Trek dream.

It's not needed, in fact if a single nation was to push space exploration, then other countries would join in (like how space research works today) without needing to have a single governing body. So the idea of having a Globalist government is really nothing more than giving into a faceless Globalist Empire.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:32 PM
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a reply to: Guyfriday

Basically, what is needed is for someone to get the first solid mining venture going with heavy industry in space. Once solid resources are coming out of the sky, everyone will get in on it really quickly.



posted on Jun, 10 2018 @ 06:32 PM
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I think the concept and idea is absolutely brilliant!

The people who would be in charge, however, make me hope we never see it. Things like Agenda 21 (or whatever its called now) are deeply, deeply concerning. Especially so because I've seen many pulled in by its flowery language without reading in depth and extrapolating.

I mean, who could be against Sustainability and Smart Growth? Right?


I don't think its some wisdom-driven agenda at all. The trouble is that discerning these things in actually achieving that type of civilization is immensely difficult, if not impossible. Unless and until our Cultural Story shifts, and we accomplish things like redefining greed satiation and shift to constructive competition (instead of destructive), I can't see any of it actually benefitting the general public.

We CAN get there though, I truly believe that. Whether or not we actually will is a much different story.



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