Are TPTB, NWO, Globalists, trying to help us?

a reply to: ketsuko

Bingo.

originally posted by: Azureblue

originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha
Could globalism be a good thing? Could one-world government and New World Order be something we should strive for?

I had a hard time finding exactly what the one-world, globalist, NWO agenda is about, and why we should fear it--or if it even exists. Most of my searches led to shady blogs and annoying youtube vids.

Thoughts? Discussion?

What is really going on?

Nice to have an overview of the landscape...…….and thanks for the heads-up.

If you are genuinely interested in finding out what the NWO agenda is, then read this.

Its 12 pages long and there are over 100 things that D Day said would happen. Only in the last month or so, one more thing got rolled out which was linking health care to employment in the US for the first time.

‘Everything Is In Place And Nobody Can Stop Us Now’ – Dr Day 1969 Lecture

December 27, 2014 by Dalia Mae 27 Comments (Gumshoe News)

This is a transcript of two out of three tapes on the “New World System” recorded in 1988, published at rense.com. They are Dr. Lawrence Dunegan’s recollections of a lecture he attended on March 20, 1969 at a meeting of the Pittsburgh Pediatric Society. The speaker was Richard Day, MD. Dunegan first revealed this on the Randy Engels radio show. His son is now creating a website to preserve the tapes.
The following is an abbreviation (boldings by Mary Maxwell):

Everything is in place and nobody can stop us now.

He [Dr Day] indicated that there is much more co-operation between East and West than most people realise.
Most people don’t understand how governments operate and even people in high positions in governments don’t really understand how and where decisions are made.

People who really influence decisions are names that for the most part would be familiar to most of us, but he would not

His purpose in telling our group about these changes that were to be brought about was to make it easier for us to adapt to these changes.

One of the statements had to do with change. “People will have to get used to the idea of change, so used to change, that they’ll be expecting change. Nothing will be permanent.” This in the context of a society where people seemed to have no roots or moorings, but would be passively willing to accept change simply because it was all they had ever known.

“People are too trusting, they don’t ask the right questions.”1. Everything

“Everything has two purposes. One is the ostensible purpose which will make it acceptable to people and second is the real purpose which would further the goals of establishing the new system.

Numbers of people living at any one time on the planet must be limited or we will run out of space to live. We will outgrow our food supply and pollute the world with our waste.

People won’t be allowed to have babies just because they want to. Some people would be allowed only one, however outstanding people might be selected and allowed to have three.

Contraceptives would be displayed more prominently in drug stores, right up with the cigarettes and chewing gum. Contraceptives would be advertised and also dispensed in the schools in association with sex education!

Sex Education is a tool of world government. Many cities in the United States by this time have already set up school-based clinics, which are primarily contraception, birth control, population control clinics.

Now back in 1969, four years before Roe vs. Wade, he said, “Abortion will no longer be a crime.” “People will be given permission to be homosexual.” Clothing would be more stimulating and provocative. Bras would be thinner and softer allowing more natural movement.

Divorce would be made easier and more prevalent. More people will not marry. Unmarried people would stay in hotels and even live together. That would be very common. More women will work outside the home. More men will be transferred to other cities and in their jobs, more men would travel. Therefore, it would be harder for families to stay together. This would tend to make the marriage relationship less stable. Travel would be easier, less expensive, for a while, so that people who did have to travel would feel they could get back to their families…. Rather a diabolical approach to this whole thing!

Everybody has a right to live only so long. The old are no longer useful. They become a burden. Some things that would help people realize that they had lived long enough, e.g., the use of very pale printing ink on forms that are necessary to fill out. Older people wouldn’t be able to read the pale ink as easily and would need to go to younger people for help.

Automobile — there would be more high-speed traffic lanes that older people with their slower reflexes would have trouble dealing with and thus, loses some of their independence.

The cost of medical care would be made burdensomely high. Medical care would be connected very closely with one’s work but also would be made very, very high in cost so that it would simply be unavailable to people beyond a certain time.

The young would become agreeable to helping Mom and Dad along the way, provided this was done humanely and with dignity. Then the example was – there could be a nice, farewell party, a real celebration. Mom and Dad had done a good job. Then after the party’s over they take the ‘demise pill’.

There would be profound changes in the practice of medicine. Overall, it would be much more tightly controlled. “Congress is not going to go along with national health insurance, it is now, abundantly evident. But it’s not necessary, we have other ways to control health care”. Costs would be forced up so that people won’t be able to afford to go without insurance. People pay for it, you’re entitled to it. Your role being responsible for your own care would be diminished.

The insurance company, paying for your care, does not pay that same amount. If you are charged, say, $600 for the use of an operating room, the insurance company does not pay $600; they only pay $300 or $400. You would feel grateful for insurance.

Identification would be needed to get into the building. The security in and around hospitals would be established and gradually increased so that nobody without identification could get in or move around inside the building. Theft of hospital equipment, things like typewriters and microscopes and so forth would be ‘allowed’ and exaggerated; reports of it would be exaggerated so that this would be the excuse needed to establish the need for strict security until people got used to it.

This need for ID would start in small ways: hospitals, some businesses, gradually expand to include everybody in all places!
It was observed that hospitals can be used to confine people and for the treatment of criminals.

Another area of discussion was Religion. He said, “Religion is not necessarily bad. A lot of people seem to need religion, with its mysteries and rituals – so they will have religion. But the major religions of today have to be changed because they are not compatible with the changes to come. The old religions will have to go especially Christianity. Once the Roman Catholic Church is brought down, the rest of Christianity will follow easily. Then a new religion can be accepted for use all over the world.
In order to do this, the Bible will be changed. It will be rewritten to fit the new religion. Gradually, key words will be replaced with new words having various shades of meaning.

a reply to: Lab4Us

See this is where things go off tangent. Irishhaf assumed the US would lead in ruling the planet.

You respond to that and start mentioning the constitution.

PS For your assumptions you are reminded this is an international site.

a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha
If you want to live in 3rd world conditions, if you want to end property rights and see all real property including your home confiscated, if you want to live your life in a cement box in a huge block apartment building and if you want to have only one meal a day, soylent green soup and if you want to live a life where the furthest you can travel is the end of the mass transit line..................join up with the Agenda 21 Globalist Elites.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha
If you want to live in 3rd world conditions, if you want to end property rights and see all real property including your home confiscated, if you want to live your life in a cement box in a huge block apartment building and if you want to have only one meal a day, soylent green soup and if you want to live a life where the furthest you can travel is the end of the mass transit line..................join up with the Agenda 21 Globalist Elites.

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I've rented one of those bowling alley apartments and the living room / kitchen hallway were open plan with a bedroom/study area on the mezzanine level. Many apartments in Canada had communal laundry facilities due to the risk of flooding other apartments. Some student accommodation have shared kitchen / bathrooms. Other universities give you a little dorm room with bed, desk and shower unit.

a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha
It would be nice for someone to debate this but it seems most people just want to worship evil and ignore this stuff about whats going on

The NWO was just misdirection whether you bother to research this for yourself to find the truth is up to you but we were bred with the guiding arm of the catholic church and the ruling class families to sacrifice us to their saturnalian deities.

All the religions worship planetary gods so the hebrew god jehovah is connected to Tefillin black Cube KabAllah Cube Worship and jehovah means moon god as does allah

allah the muslims pray to the black cube in mecca mohammed was a general in the christian army but all the numerology and symbolism is totally connected to worshipping saturn and the moon

the black cube which is reputedly found on the north pole of saturn

obviously the catholic church worship saturn which is why the freemasons which was set up by the catholic church worship moloch the god of child abuse a saturnalian deity
baccus is another saturnalian deity this is why tobacco is named as is, everyone who dies from cigarettes is a sacrifice to baccus who is the God of Wine and Orgasmic Debauchery got catholics written all over it.

If anyone studies the body and its health they will know that the second detoxification point of alcohol in the body is in our brains causing our brain cells to explode this is obviously one of the first flags to go up about jesus being real what type of a god or a son of god would turn water into a poison for us this understanding of the body goes onto the fishes and loaves story the seeds of grass contain cyanide, oestrogen and opioids as well as phenols all are toxic to us although our bodies can denature the cyanide in the grains, the real god who made this plane for us 500 million years ago told us we should fast and only drink rain water and that the three laws we agree to are not to kill another human injure another human or steal from another human so just where did those 10 commandments come from?

the christian religion was set up in 42 AD and its book Is called the Maccabee book the catholic church had to add this book into their bible, issaac newton proved the ctaholics added 5 books into the bible with revelation being added in 397AD 17 years after the catholic church turned into a christian religion in 380 AD this is just over a hundred years afetr the catholics had lead a 200 year war wiping out the christians this book contains spells and stuff the roman war on the original humans on this planet is documented but is hidden by the majority of the BS that the catholic jewish controlled press tells you the ctaholics teamed up with attilla the hun in 450AD

the catholics also set up the nazi party hitler has three missing years in his life around the time that the german royal family took over england in 1910, hitlers sister kept a diary that her family found after she had died and it stated that hitler had disappeared for 9 months in 1912 while he was staying with her for those missing three years, it seems very likely the rothschild controlled british military had one of the first manchurian candidates!

Now if i can work all this out why don't the jews that shout anti semitism understand that it was the catholic church combined with the rothschilds a jewish family who bought israel in 1828
the rothschild family consists of many names with family members like winstion churchill and prescott bush hmm they were the ones that were involved in lending germany the money and taking england into a war even though hitler had no inentions of attacking a german royal family that purely had taken over the british throne this enabled all the engish gold to be given to the catholic US government and kept england paying a completely illegal debt to america for a further 70 yrs

once you understand the different wars that have been fought through history you see a clear picture emerges of what the truth really is and that anyone who kills christians is quite simply working for evil.

The slaughtering of all the real christians like the american indians and the australian aborigines the palestinians and the romany gypsies that were slaughtered by the nazi party and then their children were taken to mengeles concentration camps in germany and brainwshed, if you read the cias book called operation mind control written by willian bowart this details horrendous crimes being carried out the american government yet it is really the catholic church behind it all.

you see the cia take up the reigns where the nazis left off well thats because some of thecatholics had to leave the nazi party and find employment elsewhere and they went to work for the cia
even donald trumps most recent cia chief said she will torture any american the american president wants but she may of phrased it differently
why hasn't the cia been closed down these allegations that the cia have been kidnapping and hypnotising americans to commit terrorist events within america is a fact and it clearly seems the cia has not changed its colours with this obvious satanic employee the cia has tortue camps set up all ove the world this is to make people mentally ill before they die apparently you can only go to hell if you are mentally ill, the catholics are renowned for torture in centuries past if we look at england they tortured many italian prisoners of war at the woolwich arsenal military base here in england as stalin was torturing jews captured from poland as well as other christians the germans wiped out millions of christians and stalin killed more jews than hitler.

anyway here are heaps of facts that maybe you did not know before and all link in to the the catholics and the families that are linked to them all being involved with poisoning you in order to sacrifice you,
you only have to see that fluoride which contains uranium and its decay products smashes most peoples brains to know that something is badly wrong and that all this israel and the khazarian jews did it is nothing but a cover to keep the catholic church in power

we can see the opus dei smugggle out most of the nazis after the war all the notable nazis were catholic as was mussolini & franco, stalin was working for the jewish bolsheviks (who were just another name in the catholic umbrella) funded the russian revolution if you look at the slaughter of the russian christians 8 million killed between 1914-1918, 12 million killed by the spanish flu in 1918, 20 million killed between 1920-22 by starvation.

at least 90% of orthodox christians have been slaughtered since the catholics took control of russia the catholics took control of america in the 1860s ater abe lincoln was killed and who said the war was being controlled by the jesuits another catholic organisation we can also see evidence of the catholic control of america by the 10% tithe your government gives the catholics every year out of the amount the IRS collects and the control the rockerfellers have over american lives they own 505 of all computer companies eve floated on the stock market this is why when the rumours come out abour zuckerberg being rockerfellers grandson we have to take note of the ownership to give us a clue to the truth Zuckerberg actually used face book to turn millions of british facebook users mentally ill I wonder if he did that to the american public as well?

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

think this sites demographics of users is 30% english 60% american

a reply to: TonyS


so 50% of the population on this planet live in a city and most of them are mentally ill due to the lack of oxygen in the air and obviously the fluoride that wee are forced pretty much to consume.

Over here in england our freedom consists of a government that is mainly made up of a pedovile ring, doctors who prescribe chlorine in virtually all its pills, we have news reporters that are executed on there doorsteps if they are investigating a pedovile ring at their work which consists of 50% of the staff.

Our government is so psychotic that it has just bought in a sugar tax so that companies can add aspartame into drinks to intentionally cause brain tumours in children primarily
but obviously fake sugar screws us all up and it does cause brain tumours in any of the recipients and causes males to become sterile the prisoners in australia found out and then got it banned in aussie prisons.

it makes up lies about russians being poisoned in order for it to change UK laws and to potentially start a war

It gives a completely corrupt european government (they arrested Dominic Strauus Khan the weekend before the vote to allow greece into the european union, Khan was going to vote against joining the european union) a divorce settlement when there was a clause in the original agreement in which we had to vote in 2014 whether to leave or stay.

and now we are finding out that the police have no rights to force the 3 companies who were involved in the grenfell tower sacrifice. well maybe that mans we have to carry out the investigation ourselves!

aficans and most third world countries live fine they live off the land and they do not need our bs materialism or do you get confused with the adverts that rich people put on our tv screens in order for us to give them our money the rich take a 29% directors cut of all the money generated by charities

the crazy amount of false flags being carried out by various actors normally the children of the ruling class who go to private schools and they are the ones who fill the roles of SAS or the alphabet agencies, we know that he manchester arena bombing was nothing more than a loud noise underneath the stadium yet the police try to tell us they had to lock down the stadium for 2 hours and not let the fire brigade in because they thought there was a shooter, right theres no cameras whatsoever in this stadium is there! and its obviously impossible for any policeman to actually look at the footage of the cameras to locate the shooter.

a reply to: jinni73

Well, if you're in the UK, maybe you could emigrate to Canada or Australia?

Could someone explain to me why you are using a sci-fi program to justify a NWO. Star Trek heh, why that? Why not Star Wars, ah a much more realistic scenario for a NWO. Think on this, as long as there are two people on earth they will disagree at some point. Life aint as clean cut as you all like to believe.
Well the banks are globally controlled and large multinational companies are globally controlled, that includes oil and water. So what more do you want?

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: Lab4Us

See this is where things go off tangent. Irishhaf assumed the US would lead in ruling the planet.

You respond to that and start mentioning the constitution.

PS For your assumptions you are reminded this is an international site.

I spoke about the govt I had the most knowledge of, I have been chastised here and in real life (I currently live in germany) about not truly understanding European style govts.

Now I try to target what I know and people assume I meant the US would head the NWO, it was an example about a governments inability to manage a much smaller land mass than the entire globe, hence using the measurements to try and drive the point home.

a reply to: Lab4Us

Notice the measurements...


That was meant to drive home the point that the governments of today cant effectively manage a much smaller land mass.


excuse me for using the government I grew up under as my example.

A few points:

If a private company makes it onto an asteroid 1st and successfully mines it what do you think their own government is going to do - just tax them? or maybe in the interests of national security ........ What are other countries governments going to do - nothing? or go themselves or maybe just intercept the returning transport - oh look star wars for real.
I mean what do you think the US gov't would do if N.Korea, Russia, Iran ...... suddenly launched a mining expedition especially if it proved successful.

So unless it is a worldwide effort I only see it leading to more war unfortunately.

Yes a one world government for the people would be great trouble is most people have different ideas so assuming its a benevolent democracy 1 person 1 vote then china and india will pretty much be deciding what happens not the US or anywhere else in the west.
World pop. 7.5billion -china - 1.415B india 1.354B - 2.78/ 7.5 = 37% of the planet.

The biggest obstacle will always be the existing power structures as they do not give up their power and domination without a fight.

However I do think if we can avoid MAD then we will get there and sooner than I think any of us realise.
Just a shame there will always be that tiny minority hell bent on causing trouble and wanting to watch the world burn for whatever reasons.

The governing body/ies would have to be drawn in a lottery fashion from across the globe with no exceptions, pay would be global average term of 'x' years, once served your name is withdrawn from future draws.
Basically every citizen of earth would be obliged to 'serve' the rest of humanity for those 'x' years once in their life in some position or other - doesnt have to be the govt , could be police/coastguard/streetcleaner or whatever.

Clearly better minds than mine could work out the details and then it could put to a worldwide vote. Oh i just woke up was having a lovely dream...........

The Georgia Guidestones

Points 1 and 2 should concern you with big huge blaring alarm bells.

How does the population get below 500 million without some blatant culling of the human population? Increases in famine? Diseases allowed to run their courses in third world countries? All encompassing world wars?

"Guide Reproduction Wisely?" So, someone out there has the right and power to tell a couple they're not of good enough genetic stock to reproduce? Will people who are deemed unfit be sterilized? Will the inevitable child born with a life affecting issue be put down for the sake of keeping the human genome pure?

If those two things do not scare you, then I really don't know what to say.

A globalist government is giving a few individuals with great power and money the right to rule over you regardless of your interests, culture, morality, regional laws, etc. This is not a good thing in my view. Looking at the chaos happening right now in the EU, do you want those people... the UN... to be able to shut you down and tell you how to live even though they're across the ocean and have zero concept of how you live on a daily basis?

Sorry. I don't want that.

originally posted by: Subrosabelow
The Georgia Guidestones

Points 1 and 2 should concern you with big huge blaring alarm bells.

How does the population get below 500 million without some blatant culling of the human population? Increases in famine? Diseases allowed to run their courses in third world countries? All encompassing world wars?

"Guide Reproduction Wisely?" So, someone out there has the right and power to tell a couple they're not of good enough genetic stock to reproduce? Will people who are deemed unfit be sterilized? Will the inevitable child born with a life affecting issue be put down for the sake of keeping the human genome pure?

If those two things do not scare you, then I really don't know what to say.

A globalist government is giving a few individuals with great power and money the right to rule over you regardless of your interests, culture, morality, regional laws, etc. This is not a good thing in my view. Looking at the chaos happening right now in the EU, do you want those people... the UN... to be able to shut you down and tell you how to live even though they're across the ocean and have zero concept of how you live on a daily basis?

Sorry. I don't want that.

The Guidestones were put where they are for a geographical reason....anyone who survives the incoming events will be able to find them above ground HOPEFULLY...hose directions are NOT for the elite who plan on disappearing for a Century or so while we are all being culled .

a reply to: jinni73

Until a poll was done I would question those figures as well

a reply to: Irishhaf

Fair enough.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: jinni73

Well, if you're in the UK, maybe you could emigrate to Canada or Australia?

LOL, australia deported me and canada is in the northern hemisphere, so we see after fukushima the radiation cloud did not cross the equator, there is a gap over the equator that will not less atmospheric gases cross over,
I had to leave england as the scum were pretty mad at me, in 2011 I stopped them doing some earthquakes and possibly blowing up the river severn nuclear power station this was connected to revelation and the end times where there were going to be lots of disasters the year before they killed us all.
They invited me to join them after I had exposed where the quakes were going to be and when i politely refused they gave me a card with the date when they were going to sacrifice me, but they missed just like all the other times they have tried to kill me although maybe next time they will get lucky who knows hey, its very difficult when the catholic church wants you dead they can make things most uncomfortable.

and after 2011 I deciphered the numerology behind the georgia guidestones and warned the various agencies that actually know that i know what i am talking about of what was coming.

The southern hemisphere only has a population of 500 million that way the families that control the catholic church can kill the 6.6 billion and still live without being affected by it all.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: jinni73

Until a poll was done I would question those figures as well

you can tell by the way people talk on here that the majority would fall into these 2 countries.

a reply to: jinni73

Again you are assuming