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San Francisco to Open Nation's First Supervised Drug Sites

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posted on May, 19 2018 @ 04:15 PM
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San Francisco now plans to open two supervised injection sites by August, which would likely be followed by several more within the next year. The move is a response to an explosion of public drug use and the dangerous paraphernalia that is often left behind on San Francisco’s streets and sidewalks.

“How about finding another way to save their lives other than offering them their poison?” said Bishop Ron Allen, who heads the International Faith Based Coalition, a drug prevention group in Sacramento that boasts 6,000 members nationwide and opposes supervised injection sites.

City workers collect more than 287,000 used needles each month, however, San Francisco distributes 400,000 new syringes, monthly, in an effort to eliminate the need for sharing used needles, thus, reducing the potential spread of disease.


www.nbcbayarea.com...

When the city sets up a lethal injection site where addicts can shoot up and smoke crack without getting arrested, the police create a buffer zone around it where they refuse to enforce the law and arrest the drug dealers.

That creates a black hole of lawlessness around the facility that attracts addicts from all over the country and creates more addicts faster than we can inject them with Naloxone so they can keep filling the drug dealers pockets.

We are culpable in those fatalities through our harm promotion and our endorsement of lawlessness and organized crime. That is not social justice. It is mass murder.
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posted on May, 19 2018 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: NorthernLites

If people want to kill themselves with heroin, crack, meth etc, who are we to stop them?



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 04:22 PM
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Sounds like that Democrat bastion is a failed government and social flop.

😃😃💉



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: NorthernLites

We are culpable in those fatalities through our harm promotion and our endorsement of lawlessness and organized crime. That is not social justice. It is mass murder.


Ok. And of those places where there are legal injection sites, this has happened where?

Drugs are here. And there. And everywhere. No sanctions against users would make them go away. It is time for harm reduction efforts.



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 04:30 PM
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so like hamsterdam from the tv show the wire?



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 04:32 PM
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good, we need to change our laws so that the cartles lose their revenue

this will prevent a lot of OD's as well

about damn time someone in this country did something!!



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 04:34 PM
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And to think that SF has a bum / feces problem now!

I'm so glad StarBucks allows people to hang out there without paying.



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 04:57 PM
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As 'progress' marches on in this liberal kingdom, it appears everything short of murder will be game, and only certain restrictions on that. All drugs seem to be game in the long run, along with all forms of behavior. Total Freedom to experience any and every fancy no matter how reprobate to that 'stodgy' Moral Majority.

In fact those of the Moral Majority will be refused entry to the state in all likelihood. Wine, women, children, drugs, sex and song. The new Rally Cry of the bold Progressives. The Proud Alphabet state. A beacon of Freedom, total freedom.

Only one Caveat... 'be wary what you wish for, you just might get it.



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 04:59 PM
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Yeah, this was a very heated topic years back when WA state was discussing implementing it. Seattle decided to do it a couple of years ago.

There was a lot of resistance to the idea but in the end, after studying these programs around the world and seeing the incredible improvements after they were implemented, even the staunchest critics no longer oppose it. It seems to work everywhere it's done.

Anyone interested in this should really research how Portugal and Switzerland dealt with it years ago. Portugal is a particularly good study, as their addiction rates were getting out of control and along with it, HIV infections were skyrocketing. They started these shoot-up clinics around the turn of the millennium, if I remember right, and in the close to two decades that they've been running them, the addiction rate plummeted. The cases of HIV went down from something like tens of thousands to a handful - it's really incredible.

I'll try to find a good article I read about it last year, but for now here's something on Portugal to get those with an open mind started.

Portugal’s radical drugs policy is working. Why hasn’t the world copied it?

Lots of intersting facts on Supervised Injection Facilities



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 05:05 PM
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The best thing the government could do is to END this fiasco of a failed drug war but that isn't going to happen. There is just too much money being made by supposed legitimate individuals and business. "BANKS" laundering the proceeds.
They will not let their massive cash cow be shot down and the fed learned nothing during prohibition so they will continue the fiasco.
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posted on May, 19 2018 @ 05:27 PM
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this is a good thing. OP's hyperbole is not fact-based, just hysterical speculation. where this has been done it's been an improvement. and it's compassionate.



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 05:50 PM
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“How about finding another way to save their lives other than offering them their poison?” said Bishop Ron Allen

Well, your way doesn't seem to be workin' there, bishop... Otherwise, you'd be showing unparalleled success.



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 05:54 PM
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Want to hear a joke?


California.....



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 06:09 PM
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originally posted by: fiverx313
this is a good thing. OP's hyperbole is not fact-based, just hysterical speculation. where this has been done it's been an improvement. and it's compassionate.


Not working out well for British Columbia, Canada.



CBC is reporting that "Suspected overdose deaths spiked again in March, reaching the province's second highest monthly total to date, according to the B.C. Coroners Service. A total of 161 people are believed to have died from drug overdoses in March, a 58 per cent increase over the month before." Global is reporting that "The deaths represent a 24 per cent increase over March 2017, when 130 people died from illicit drug overdoses."

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posted on May, 19 2018 @ 06:11 PM
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your graph has literally nothing to do with your rant of a premise.

safe sites decrease drug use death rates, for one.



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 06:33 PM
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This spike in this graph is caused by the introduction of fentanyl, then carfentanil into the drug supply. The safe injection sites have been open for years and have saved many lives from fentanyl overdoses.



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 07:51 PM
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The only crime here is that people are still treating drug addiction as a criminal problem. You can’t arrest your way out of this.

If you could, it would have worked by now.



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 08:47 PM
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Here's an idea, take the same attitude you have towards drugs and apply them to guns.... Are you willing ?

All the evidence shows injection rooms save lives and help to keep the drugs and parafanalia of the streets ,you are literally advocating it's better to have needles and people that have overdosed on the street.



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: NorthernLites

San Francisco now plans to open two supervised injection sites by August, which would likely be followed by several more within the next year. The move is a response to an explosion of public drug use and the dangerous paraphernalia that is often left behind on San Francisco’s streets and sidewalks.

“How about finding another way to save their lives other than offering them their poison?” said Bishop Ron Allen, who heads the International Faith Based Coalition, a drug prevention group in Sacramento that boasts 6,000 members nationwide and opposes supervised injection sites.

City workers collect more than 287,000 used needles each month, however, San Francisco distributes 400,000 new syringes, monthly, in an effort to eliminate the need for sharing used needles, thus, reducing the potential spread of disease.


www.nbcbayarea.com...

When the city sets up a lethal injection site where addicts can shoot up and smoke crack without getting arrested, the police create a buffer zone around it where they refuse to enforce the law and arrest the drug dealers.

That creates a black hole of lawlessness around the facility that attracts addicts from all over the country and creates more addicts faster than we can inject them with Naloxone so they can keep filling the drug dealers pockets.

We are culpable in those fatalities through our harm promotion and our endorsement of lawlessness and organized crime. That is not social justice. It is mass murder.


Here's how it's going to do. Progressives did that in Edinburgh with "Tolerance Zones". Hookers wanted somewhere residential where there would be people around. They didn't want to work in isolated business districts, and the business sectors didn't want them around their buildings either, which would lead to kerb-crawlers abusing female workers going home at night.

So the political party in power at the time approved these zones on designated residential streets. No-one would be prosecuted so long as they took regular AIDS and other STD tests. House prices fell through the floor, residents sold up to property developers who remarketed them as luxury apartments. The new yuppy residents used their professional skills to complain to the council about constantly being abused by kerb-crawlers - who did sweet F.A. and ended up being voted out.



posted on May, 19 2018 @ 09:03 PM
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"How about finding another way to save their lives"

Why? Why are we trying to save their lives? Why is prolonging their misery preferably to letting them die?

Dont misunderstand me; I don't want to see anyone die from drug use, it's a tragic event every time it happens. I also agree that we need to abandon our failed war on drugs and replace it with a more compassionate approach to combating drug use. Such an approach would help on so many levels from removing power from drug cartels to ending the turnstile prison system the pore must endure.

What I am questioning is the idea that we should be out saving drug users from their overdoses. In our peritanucal zeal to save everyone from death are we simply prolonging the suffering these people and their families must endure? Save their lives today so that we can bring them back from the brink again tomorrow and the next day and the day after that? What kind of existence is that we are forcing on these people so that we can feel good that we at least tried to help them.




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