Why does it cost $32,093 just to give birth in America?

a reply to: ManFromEurope

You don’t have 10s of millions like we do.

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Well I wouldn’t say you look out for each other unless you’re paying someone else’s bills. Really the government is taking your money through taxes and redistributing it.

Which is why I was cured of cancer for $32 out of pocket. Parking at the oncology centre. And our standard of living is at least as good as yours.
(We have Kinder Eggs, too...mind you, y'all have Hostess 'Real Fruit' Fruit' Pies)

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

No. But here's the thing ... neither did we, and when I need an MRI ... I don't have to wait for up to six months to get it. I generally am in and out within a couple weeks.

That is generally one of the advantages our system has over yours.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

And your wait times to see a specialist is also 6 months. I could see a specialist this morning if I needed too.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

That's remarkable, what sort of cure did you pay a mere 32 bucks for?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
No. But here's the thing ... neither did we, and when I need an MRI ... I don't have to wait for up to six months to get it. I generally am in and out within a couple weeks.
That is generally one of the advantages our system has over yours.

Our system is not perfect by any means, but given the amount of money that is thrown at yours, I'd hardly call it efficient. And if you need an MRI fast, you get one.

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
That's remarkable, what sort of cure did you pay a mere 32 bucks for?

Brachytherapy for prostate cancer.

originally posted by: havok
So what is your solution?
Socialism? Higher taxes to fund gov't sponsored healthcare?

Insurance and healthcare has been one of the biggest expenses in the country for well over 40 years. Who do we blame? In the medical industry, there are a plethora of reasons things cost so much.

Pharma companies, insurance costs, artificial inflations, etc.

What do you propose?

The simple thing to start with would be mandatory price caps. Duh.

a reply to: Atsbhct

I was going to say something along the same line to the OP. You're born into a system that keeps you enslaved to taxation for 40 odd years; then when its time to collect theres not much there. With unfunded liabilities it will only get worse as the Governments dip into retirement & infrastructure funds to balance their books.

I went to the dermatologist yesterday.
I have a mild case of psoriasis and use a steroid shampoo occasionally.
My prescription had expired.
After having my insurance premiums go up 3% at the start of the year, my co pays went up as well.
Now it $50 instead of $25. Specialists ya know.

I get my prescription and they give me another one for ear drops. Been wearing ear plugs at work lately and they get itchy....ha.

Get to the pharmacy and pay $10 co pay for the shampoo, all is normal.
Surprise surprise the ear drop are not covered....
Well how much to just buy them?

..... $193........ da fuk

These must contain unicorn blood or pixie dust...
I passed on the drops.
But before everyone jumps on the hate America's healthcare system,
I bought a case of bud light yesterday for $19.
That case in Canada is $50ish.
In Denmark you pay 60% income tax.

But healthcare is "free"

All healthcare is expensive, it just costs you In different places.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

No. But here's the thing ... neither did we, and when I need an MRI ... I don't have to wait for up to six months to get it. I generally am in and out within a couple weeks.

That is generally one of the advantages our system has over yours.

Most countries with universal healthcare still have a private option.

If I need to see a specialist and it's critical I will generally be seen quickly. If it's not critical I can either wait or pay/use insurance and get seen quickly.

Interesting. Seeing as no actual person pays $32k out of pocket to have a baby, what are the numbers actually saying? Hospitals charge that much to insurance companies? Insurance companies are willing to pay that much?

Granted it's been 9 years almost exactly since my last child, but it cost me $150 insurance copay and not a penny more. Course that was before Obamacare came and completely jack screwed the entire health care industry.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Yeap, it damn sure does. Our health system is like our other systems, if you have money & plenty of it you gonna be alright. If not.....well there's mid wives. Plus I've never heard of a medical institution sending out the repo man to bring the baby back cause of non-payment.........But it could happen....this is Murica goddamnit.

originally posted by: Bluntone22

But before everyone jumps on the hate America's healthcare system,
I bought a case of bud light yesterday for $19.
That case in Canada is $50ish.

Dude.

It's piss-water. Only Americans would dish out that much for it north of the border.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

I'm sorry I hope you're doing ok there.

Would you mind sharing the remedy with us?

a reply to: Nyiah

Ok, Molson is $50ish a case.
Pick your poison, ya still taxed the crap out of it..

a reply to: Bluntone22

Bud light? You would be better of drinking the steroid shampoo.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Half of our voters picked trump.
The other half picked hillary.

Our taste bud are so used to # we drink the cheap beer.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Nyiah

Ok, Molson is $50ish a case.
Pick your poison, ya still taxed the crap out of it..

I assume you mean Canadian dollars, which is about $40 US.

Either way, /shrug
Where I'm at, folks don't think much about plunking down $10 or $15 on a single bottle of specialty beer, either. To each their own.

Why does it cost that much, For profit insurance companies that always want to improve their bottom line.

They drive the cost, compare the prices of procedures done under insurance to the prices at places that are cash only and you can see the difference its astonishing.

originally posted by: openyourmind1262
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Yeap, it damn sure does. Our health system is like our other systems, if you have money & plenty of it you gonna be alright. If not.....well there's mid wives.

Actually, our system in Ontario covers midwives if you choose to have them assist in a hospital birth. Look, there are always shortcomings anywhere unless you have a ton of dough, but you'd be hard pressed to find any Canadians on this site who would trade for the US system.

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
I'm sorry I hope you're doing ok there.
Would you mind sharing the remedy with us?

Insertion of radioactive pellets directly into the prostate to toast yer giblets into submission. (Don't try this at home, kids. See a professional) It worked just fine, 8 years clear, and thanks for your good thoughts.