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Why does it cost $32,093 just to give birth in America?

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posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 05:56 AM
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Well cause' the freemarket and the invisible hand God dang!


Stella Apo Osae-Twum and her husband did everything by the book. They went to a hospital covered by insurance, saw an obstetrician in their plan, but when her three sons – triplets – were born prematurely, bills started rolling in.

The hospital charged her family $877,000 in total.


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It’s nearly impossible to put a price tag on giving birth in America, since costs vary dramatically by state and hospital. But one 2013 study by the the advocacy group Childbirth Connection found that, on average, hospitals charged $32,093 for an uncomplicated vaginal birth and newborn care, and $51,125 for a standard caesarean section and newborn care. Insurance typically covers a large chunk of those costs, but families are still often on the hook for thousands of dollars.

www.theguardian.com...

Golly that's costly even with coverage? I mean you pay an arm and a leg already for ever increasing Healthcare premiums year by year? Why oh why are Americans paying so much more than the rest of the world? How about those runaway Healthcare premiums huh?



You'd figured having the highest expenditure of healthcare in the developed world this should be all covered right? I guess not. Since 1960 healthcare costs have risen by 12,300% and yet you still end up less out of your pocket even with coverage.

What? We've cut a tonne of regulations under the Reagan, the Bushes and now Trump. What is this all amounting to? How many times are we going to use the excuse that regulation or government is holding the markets back? When the trend clearly indicates the markets are getting freer reign year by year? Astounding.

Still a no to universal healthcare? Right? Right.

 


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posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 06:01 AM
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So what is your solution?
Socialism? Higher taxes to fund gov't sponsored healthcare?

Insurance and healthcare has been one of the biggest expenses in the country for well over 40 years. Who do we blame? In the medical industry, there are a plethora of reasons things cost so much.

Pharma companies, insurance costs, artificial inflations, etc.

What do you propose?




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posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 06:04 AM
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Big surprise, Insurance coverage is all good, till you go to collect. The reason hospital fees are so high is Insurance 'adjusters' balk at the costs, refuse to pay the full amount, so Hospitals charge way more up front.

Sorry about that.

The 800 pound gorilla in the operating room is the Insurance Fraud Cartel.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 06:07 AM
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a reply to: havok

obviously you just quit you job, go on welfare, and let the government pay for it.

idiocracy is a documentary, we just don't know it yet.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 06:10 AM
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We humans have been giving birth for thousands of years without the need for the mark of the beast. We need to look at a better way of life without the mark controlling our lives.


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posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 06:18 AM
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America! The only country where you're "born free" ... for $30000 - $1000000, depending on circumstances.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 06:18 AM
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My son was born in 2010. C-section. I had insurance. I got a bill for $760.

So, this article is saying the usual: Insurance covers up a lot of waste and corruption. We need to get away from insurance for medical scenarios that happen literally every day in every part of the country and let the free market actually work.
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posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 06:36 AM
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Not only the high cost but how much time do you get to recover and spend with your children? In Canada, you get a year of paid maternity leave. I'm sure there are other countries that are better and/or have different policies.

How many countries can render you bankrupt because of childbirth?



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 06:44 AM
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originally posted by: Prisoner60863
We humans have been giving birth for thousands of years without the need for the mark of the beast. We need to look at a better way of life without the mark controlling our lives.


It costs more than an arm and a leg when giving birth.. usually, a heard torso, hands and feet, you know the whole shebang.

And if they want to charge for it, well.. I'd ask for a refund.

House birth.. learn to, I say.. not only do that charge people to be born, but to be born in to a lifetime of indentured servitude... greedy bastards.

Sod 'em... health should not be a premium thing, given only to those who matter (or contribute to the government coffers) it should be a right. Just like every other right people demand, yet get so buthurt about when any hint of infringement occurs..

"You didn't pay, sorry, your baby died."

pfft, that world stinks, some things I do call for when it comes to our tribe, this society, this community.

"Oh you didn't send your child to a state sanctioned school and schooled them at home? We will take them from you." -- oh they care then.

what a pathetic and miserable world we have created. If you are without, stay without. If you are blindingly wealthy, oh, well done. Here, have more.

some things... some things.. basic health and for gods sake, bringing a child into the world, we should all be there for.
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posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 06:44 AM
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The title 19 program. Let's welfare recipients and illegal aliens pay virtually nothing, which raises the price for everyone else.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 06:50 AM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu
My son was born in 2010. C-section. I had insurance. I got a bill for $760.

So, this article is saying the usual: Insurance covers up a lot of waste and corruption. We need to get away from insurance for medical scenarios that happen literally every day in every part of the country and let the free market actually work.

I find it very telling that this post had no stars and no responses. So NO ONE wants to know the real answer? SMH



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 06:57 AM
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And let me just add, if it were possible for most of us to subsist on this planet without infringement or penalty for not being part of the system, it would make a difference.

We can't. Perhaps some places do allow you to live off the land, free of any opposition and therefore entitlement.

But I'd go off the grid if I could, but no where here, is not crown land. No where is free from penalty if you choose to dwell upon it, or sustain your self.

so I might be a little jaded.. but short of drastic measures to move somewhere far away, their leash is tight. and in an age where it is illegal to grow food in your own gardens, or collect rain from the sky, as I've seen before, not only do they put the salt into the wound, but the press their thumb if you even try to endure.

off back to the land of passive thoughts, lest I become a monster...



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 07:05 AM
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Because people deserve to get paid for their work.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 07:07 AM
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The answer is that Americans seem to want to keep their healthcare system as it is, so the small print in insurance will always bankrupt people, even if they can afford insurance. The US healthcare system is fantastically expensive for the people who put money in (i.e. the public) and the clinical outcomes are not really that good.

I cannot see US healthcare changing any time soon. This is because the fanatical willingness of the average American to be duped and misled by conniving politicians will not magically end.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 07:08 AM
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a reply to: Hewhowaits

And this^ can’t tell you how many unpaid visits walk through the ER everyday. None speak english and none pay, it’s these”free” healthcare visits that these institutions have to pay for.
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posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 07:08 AM
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originally posted by: avgguy
Because people deserve to get paid for their work.

No, because your health care system sucks.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 07:09 AM
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a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

It’s actually pretty good, I’d rather pay for what I need, than pay for everyone else’s problems.


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posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 07:15 AM
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originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

It’s actually pretty good, I’d rather pay for what I need, than pay for everyone else’s problems.
Luckily, in our country we look out for each other. And nobody gets a bill for $32,093 after a childbirth.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 07:19 AM
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a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Well I wouldn’t say you look out for each other unless you’re paying someone else’s bills. Really the government is taking your money through taxes and redistributing it.



posted on Jan, 31 2018 @ 07:20 AM
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originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: Hewhowaits

And this^ can’t tell you how many unpaid visits walk through the ER everyday. None speak english and none pay, it’s these”free” healthcare visits that these institutions have to pay for.


In Germany, we have those immigrants and refugees and those have NO insurances, and DO visit the hospitals. None of them paid anything.

My healthcare insurance premiums did not rise but went down the last years.



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