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originally posted by: Atsbhct
a reply to: Neopan100
This is crazy!
This is exactly what baffles me when US citizens (not you specifically) argue that their healthcare system is better than a universal system!
1. US taxpayers who don't recieve healthcare benefits are all ready paying taxes that cover those that do.
2. Those of you who pay insurance premiums are paying an insane amount, generally more than what a taxpayer would contribute towards healthcare in a universal healthcare country.
3. In the end, you're still paying out of pocket costs! $273 for Cipro ear drops!!?? The same drug in Canada costs... $50, the same as your co-pay. Your insurance companies are swindling all of you.
Time to demand more from your government!
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Atsbhct
Do you know why there is that cost difference?
Your government undercuts the true price. They tell the company, "We are the one you are negotiating with and we won't pay what you're asking. We demand a lesser price because we buy in bulk."
So your country either does not get Cipro or the company sells at a steep discount. That means those of us who do pay the price out of pocket must make up for that benefit. In other words, you may thank us for subsidizing your drugs up there in Canada ... so can most of the rest of the world for that matter.
If we all paid the true price for our meds, the cost might even out and then Cipro wouldn't cost anyone $200+ dollars, but it wouldn't necessarily cost $50 either.
Of course, no one mentions that you can get the same med for about $1 per pack at your local pet stores ... well maybe not in Canada because the government prefers to save y'all from yourselves.
originally posted by: Debunkology
originally posted by: Southern Guardian
Well cause' the freemarket and the invisible hand God dang!
1.) If a firefighter comes to your house, and puts out a fire, and charges you so much money that you go bankrupt or cannot afford to pay. That's an absurdity.
2.) If a police officer stops a burglary at your home, and charges you so much money that you go bankrup or cannot afford to pay. That's an absurdity.
3.) If you get cancer and the doctor charges you so much money that you go bankrupt, or cannot afford to pay. That's an absurdity.
If you or your wife gives birth and get charged thousands of dollars by your local hospital, that's an absurdity.
This is how the average European or people from other civilized nations view these things, because these things are viewed as basic human rights.
Except the US of course (in regards to 3), whose citizens seem to give reasons like "Freedom of market" or "socialism" or "high taxes". When in reality they are paying more and getting ripped off overall.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
Government sets the price using DRG's.
So government sets the price, and yet people want to run to government and complain to government about the price that was set by government.