RELEASE The FISA Abuse Memo NOW!

originally posted by: queenofswords
I feel a bit sorry for the folks that are afraid to see the full frontal "monty" of what the Obama administration and its weaponized DOJ/FBI were up to.

They are afraid of heights, I guess, because this is going to take them on one helluva roller coaster ride.

Remember...5-6% won't be able to handle it at all.

The rest of us are awake, locked and loaded. Let's have it! ReleaseTheMemo ... ReleaseTheDocument

You mean the administration of the Hillary puppet Obama , right ? Proactively trying to set up what would have happened in a Clinton presidency .
Just sayin...

a reply to: thepixelpusher

But Trump has been president for a year. Why hasn't he commented on this, does he want to publish these findings? Or are they too secret for him to be allowed to see them? If so, does he not trust Nunes? It doesn't add up for me, not typical behavior from Trump if he believes in this, he tends to be very outspoken.

I've mostly been following this on Fox and social media, not a lot of Democrats there.

a reply to: IAMTAT


It will be out sooner than later, once it goes through the right procedures, no worries. This week sometime no matter what happens with the shutdown. I'd be willing to place a bet on it. No doubt.

a reply to: IAMTAT


I was there while #ReleaseTheMemo formed and took flight and it was a wonderful thing to behold. Some of the wicked establishment's MSM contractors even had their "Russian bot" talking points all ready for them at 4:00am to describe the phenomenon (the hashtag went straight to the top of trending, globally).

People even started calling into Ryan's office, who had previously begged for it not to be released and if I understand things correctly, that decision has been removed from his purview. It's being released, as soon as it passes the procedures.

And that's just the beginning. Trey Gowdy is being positioned to lead a new investigation, or series of them and that's already in the works.

We are right now, this day, and in the coming days on the very threshold of a scandal and domino effect of the farthest reaching historical importance and significance.

This isn't hope porn. It's happening.

And further, every American cares about the integrity of the Democratic Process and if laws were broken (worse than watergate?) as part of some palace coup operation led by certain Democratic Leaders and operatives, surely they will not be blinded by identity politics?!

This is some serious stuff, and it's only the beginning. 2018 is going to be a year of fireworks and of transformative change. The release of this memo, which is happening, is kind of like the first shot of an American Revolution heard across the world.


Huh?

Q sent me.

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: IAMTAT


It will be out sooner than later, once it goes through the right procedures, no worries. This week sometime no matter what happens with the shutdown. I'd be willing to place a bet on it. No doubt.

Rep David Joyce is stating that it could take up to 19+ Congressional business days for the process to be complete. The Intelligence Committee has to vote on it and let the National Security Council review it before it can get final approval from the White House. I'm sure there's going to be some debate on what should/shouldn't be redacted.

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

I wonder if his resignation from committee has anything to do with this?

I don’t have the time to go through the entire thread to see if this has already been posed; but...is it possible that the “memo” doesn’t really exist or is being massively exaggerated by the republicans as a leverage tool in budget negotiations?

The timing of it all is a little suspect. Now the potential date the memo can be released is fluctuating. I read one report where a congressman said something like “19 congress days”. Does congress even work 19 days in a year? (Sarc). Regardless, what’s the hold up? Something this damaging would have at least of been leaked by now. All these politicians have supposedly read it but not once has one of those corrupt b@st@rds leaked it? That’s a first by Washington standards.

I want the memo to be real in the sense that it might offer some hope of transparency and accountability. But the longer this goes on...the less I’m inclined to believe it as anything more than a fake negotiation tactic... Scare them in submission!

a reply to: Assassin82

That is the whole point for many.

Most here realize the GOP are not our friends. Many believe that there was criminality in what has been heard via rumor thus far. And many believe that if this is a stunt, or is just a bunch of fluff, that it would prove that both parties are pretty much FOS and in need of disposal.

Most of the Trump support is support for removing the 2 parties. Not all...but most.

a reply to: Assassin82

There's no reason to doubt the memo is real as such, it's just a memo, a message received by a group of people to update them on committee affairs. The trick is to make the public speculate on it's contents and blow it out of proportion until they think it will bring Obama down, or something like that. It doesn't take much, could be a total none-issue, but the confidence shown by a few of those who viewed the memo makes me think Nunes identified some sort of real anomaly, possibly related to an FBI contractor being given undue access to classified information early in 2016.

Still not sure if they'll ever publish it, the contents could easily turn out to be too secret, which would be a perfect outcome and allow for further hand-wringing. For those who want transparency, I'd put more hope into these new investigations on Hillary and Abedin, haven't really looked into them though. I guess there's no new info available yet anyway.

I'm not saying that the DNC's leadership is innocent or that Trump will be found guilty, 'cause I #ing hate admitting it when I'm wrong. But when I look at the world outside of 4Chan, twitter and ATS I don't see the movements and indicators I'd expect to see if a bombshell was about to hit in a couple of weeks. Keep in mind that many dozens of people viewed the memo already, it's not a strictly guarded secret anymore. And obviously Trump is aware of it too, and his advisers.

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: IAMTAT


I was there while #ReleaseTheMemo formed and took flight and it was a wonderful thing to behold. Some of the wicked establishment's MSM contractors even had their "Russian bot" talking points all ready for them at 4:00am to describe the phenomenon (the hashtag went straight to the top of trending, globally).

People even started calling into Ryan's office, who had previously begged for it not to be released and if I understand things correctly, that decision has been removed from his purview. It's being released, as soon as it passes the procedures.

And that's just the beginning. Trey Gowdy is being positioned to lead a new investigation, or series of them and that's already in the works.

We are right now, this day, and in the coming days on the very threshold of a scandal and domino effect of the farthest reaching historical importance and significance.

This isn't hope porn. It's happening.

And further, every American cares about the integrity of the Democratic Process and if laws were broken (worse than watergate?) as part of some palace coup operation led by certain Democratic Leaders and operatives, surely they will not be blinded by identity politics?!

This is some serious stuff, and it's only the beginning. 2018 is going to be a year of fireworks and of transformative change. The release of this memo, which is happening, is kind of like the first shot of an American Revolution heard across the world.


Huh?

Q sent me.

You sound a great deal like Q.
Hmmmmm.....

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: Cutepants

Trump was not President when these actions started and the memo will show how the Dems tried to derail Trump win.

This is a good example of reality warp.

The Dems were not looking to "derail Trump win".

Nobody thought he had a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

If anything the FBI discounted the mounting evidence that the Trump Campaign was working with Russian Agents because they, like everyone else, thought it was moot point and Trump could not win.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: IAMTAT
MUCH has been spoken here today about the FISA Abuse Memo generated from the House Intelligence Committee.
It reportedly outlines how the anti-Trump dossier was used to justify spying on the Trump campaign.

There appeared to be darker elements at work as well. Business Insider reported that the hashtag assigned to the memo debate has been fueled by Twitter accounts linked to Kremlin propaganda.

www.politico.com...




This looks like damage control on the part of the Democrats.

Nope. Sourced and well researched reporting by a conservative publication that has been highly supportive of a Trump Presidency.

reality warp.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: soberbacchus

A memo of selective information that can not be understood in context because of highly classified information.

The memo is by design a political document constructed by Devin Nunes to pre-emptively attempt to discredit the legitimate probe by Special Counselor Mueller and the FBI.

I'm confident the full scope of things will be fairly evaluated without leaking secrets. The results will be trials and Democratic lawyers making so much money they retire early. Trump shows more fairness and balance than Obama ever did.

The last time Devin Nunes tried to construct a deflection bombshell for his dear leader regarding the Russia Investigation, he ended up publicly shamed and having to "step away" himself from the investigation until the fire died down.

Remember he claimed he had an anonymous source showing the FBI spied on Trump? And then it ended up he got it from a secret briefing at the Whitehouse from the very people he was pretending to investigate? He ended up in an ethics committee investigation for leaking classified material? And it took something like 8 months for his fellow GOP to finally sign off on clearing him but they wouldn't release the details of how they arrived at that conclusion.

Devin Nunes is interesting in that he repeatedly seems willing to risk his career and being investigated himself by creating misleading narratives with classified material in order to scramble the investigation into Russian interference. He can't just love Trump that much. I suspect when all is said and done he will find himself resigning and interviewed by Mueller and striking a deal etc.

a reply to: IAMTAT


BTW - My prediction?

The memo is only useful for deflection when not deeply examined for it's veracity.

If GOP vote to release it, Trump will veto the release.

The worry is that once the Memo is released, it must by verified, confirmed and it claims examined.

The Intelligence Community has said repeatedly that it not engage in surveillance that was not legitimate and warranted.

So the release of the memo would force the FBI, DOJ and Intelligence community to defend their reasoning for any surveillance of the Trump campaign.

Releasing it gambles that the intelligence community can not explain why the warrants were issued because of ongoing investigations and classified material, but if the DOJ/FBI and Intelligence community is publicly lied about with the release of this memo, I imagine the truth will come out.

Does Trump really want the public understanding fully WHY warrants were issued?

He will VETO a release.

I am for the release of the Memo + a Public Committee Congressional interview with Devin Nunes explaining how he came about making the memo + public interviews with DOJ/FBI/CIA about what evidence they had/have justifying the surveillance.

The "Memo" without verification and explanation is just a political tabloid headline.

The last time I saw such obvious propaganda aimed against truth seekers ended up with a hired actor allegedly shooting a gun in a pizza shop in DC, don't forget around the same time #releasethememo movement started, CNBC tried to smuggle a bomb into an airport, the false flag they needed to distract the sleepers was shut down before it could happen, don't be surprised if there's another attempt. Stay aware of your surroundings. I'll be praying for our country and our people, god bless.

a reply to: soberbacchus

The "Memo" without verification and explanation is just a political tabloid headline.

Yeah, like the Comey memo.

a reply to: soberbacchus

Nobody thought he had a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

Odds in Vegas had it at 2to1 against Trump. Someone I know put $15,000 down and walked away with 30k. Don't tell me no one thought he'd win. Plenty people willing voted him into office. Handily winning over Hillary! So those millions of people were surprised they voted for Trump!!?? C'mon, that's a weak argument.

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

This isn't hope porn. It's happening.

This guy has a great track record on prophecies. He predicted Donald Trump to win well before he declared his candidacy for prez.

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

Believe it or not there are some fair-minded Democrats out there who are very curious and apprehensive about this memo. Some say it is beginning to look like Obama is going to be the Democrat's version Warren Harding.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

As did this guy in 2007, well before Obama took office..


He either had some great connections and background info... or...?

Out of fairness to the doubters, word is that there have been many patriots urging Trump to run for the last 20 years.

I've also heard that the White Hats, or the good guys in the system, in seeing what's been going on with the black hat satanists (small s), imbedded a series of traps to be sprung at a later date and that they've now all been sprung under these operations that have been going on behind the scenes.

My only concern with all this Qanon/Trump business is that they could be running a massive blackmail operation to wrest power from the hands of the evil bastards, which would only be a temporary move involving temporal power... although Q has said that there are "NO DEALS", and that they were even approached by Clinton for a deal to which she was told, NO.

We therefore need a massive scandal and series of them to burst out into the public square or what Q has indicated as to 20% that we'll see, with 80% of it that we'll never see.

So it's quite possible that the MSM will have no CHOICE but to say the things that have to be said..