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3 dead after school shooting in California, shooter stopped by deputies

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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:25 PM
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originally posted by: NightFlight
Until the Federal indictments are unsealed and the people behind these heinous crimes are incarcerated, there are more of these shootings and worse coming...

This is deflection by the left to get minds off the indictments and other crimes committed.

Stay Vigilant, everyone!


Nice score...never let a tragedy with dead children go by with out making a political point.

The bodies are still warm yet you scored a point for the Right wing. You're quick!!

MAGA MAGA


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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:27 PM
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The shooters were loaded for bear:


www.krcrtv.com...
"Within a minute we were all buckled in our classrooms and all of a sudden there were gunshots going for a good 20-25 minutes."
A witness named Tiffany, who operates Coffee Addiction Coffee Shop near the school, told KRCR News Channel 7 she heard 90-100 shots fired. ... Tiffany's husband, Brian Rodgers, said another witness reported seeing a white pickup drive through the school gate and start shooting.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Ah well. Nothing to be done except prayers for the dead and their families I guess. Every time it happens. Again and again and again.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn



To buy a gun, it should be required that you pass a mental evaluation or that you do not have people in your life who has a mental illness. Check your past and make sure you have no history of violence.


Go research California gun laws, and then read up on this shooter.

Don't come back until you do.

This site's motto is "Deny Ignorance" and you just copped to willful ignorance.


It says nothing about passing a mental health test before you can own a gun.

Mental Health Reporting in California


persons with specific mental health issues are barred by California law from possessing, purchasing, receiving, attempting to purchase or receive, or having control or custody of any firearm.2 With certain limited exceptions, courts must submit an electronic report to the California Department of Justice (“DOJ”), within one court day, when they adjudicate someone to be a danger to others as a result of a mental disorder or mental illness, a mentally disordered sex offender, not guilty of a crime by reason of insanity, mentally incompetent to stand trial, or placed under conservatorship because the individual is gravely disabled due to a mental disorder.3


So what exactly was your point?



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: jacquesdarippa

Point is the scumbag shooter was a felon who was prohibited from purchasing a legal fire arm.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

As well as the fact that a small town like this may not have the appropriate resources to properly process an incident that encompasses multiple crime scenes. If the FBI is already providing support and resources to trace the origins of the firearms involved in this crime, it's perfectly reasonable to let them offer or to request further assistance when the local authorities don't have the appropriate resources in place to process multiple crime scenes. I'm sure a part of it too is wanting to cover their asses and make sure they don't screw up too. But whatever it takes to get the job done properly should be the priority.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: Hazardous1408

Yet he had one, which means the current laws are doing nothing to stop this from happening.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
twitter.com...


Here is part of an interview with the man who says his truck was stolen and his roommate was shot and killed by the alleged shooter who is described as a known felon in his 50's named Kevin.


Known felon.

Why does he have guns. In CALIFORNIA of all places?


Can ONLY star your post once so just in case anyone missed it...



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

It seems like all these shootings in the news is giving these psychos ideas and the confidence to commit similar mass shootings. These shootings are feeding their dark secret ambitions.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:34 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: projectvxn

Ah well. Nothing to be done except prayers for the dead and their families I guess. Every time it happens. Again and again and again.


It's always entertaining when people such as yourself show up in a thread about a shooting, making your melodramatic comments and throwing your hands up in the air.

Yet never seem to have any ideas as to how to improve the situation or any rational response to information.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:36 PM
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originally posted by: antar



Can ONLY star your post once so just in case anyone missed it...


What is so hard for you people to understand. Strict gun laws in one state doesn't help if surrounding states don't have them. Your state has strict laws regarding guns, then go over to next state and get gun then bring said gun back into state with strict gun laws.
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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:37 PM
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originally posted by: jacquesdarippa
a reply to: Hazardous1408

Yet he had one, which means the current laws are doing nothing to stop this from happening.



Exactly. So what exactly is your mental health test going to do for the black market? Don't see much chance of your local Crip doing a mental health screen on his homie before he hands over the burner.

ETA - California has a law that makes it illegal to go to another state and drive home with a gun. Residents that want to purchase a firearm out of state have to have it shipped to an in-state FFL, who is subject to all state laws and has to comply with all waiting periods and paperwork, before they can hand the firearm over to the owner.
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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: jacquesdarippa


Yet he had one...


A legal fire arm?

Do you have proof of this?


...which means the current laws are doing nothing to stop this from happening.


Hmmm... firstly, until you provide proof of the above, you cannot say that...

On the flip side you’re basically asking for a law that does prevent legal ownership (which would only affect law abiding citizens)...
Which is unconstitutional... & not worth debating.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: jacquesdarippa

If it was illegal for him to get a gun in CA it is illegal for him to get it in other states. Am I missing something.


Criminals breaks laws!



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:41 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: jacquesdarippa
a reply to: Hazardous1408

Yet he had one, which means the current laws are doing nothing to stop this from happening.



Exactly. So what exactly is your mental health test going to do for the black market? Don't see much chance of your local Crip doing a mental health screen on his homie before he hands over the burner.


Like I said create laws that make illegal ownership less attractive to criminals. Like a mandatory sentence if ever caught with one. Harsh jail terms for those who use a gun in a crime regardless of past history. Rob a store (no deaths) first time, yet get an automatic 20 yrs. Give same sentence to people who sell to a criminal or a person with mental illness whether or not they themselves are criminals.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: jacquesdarippa

He was a felon, mental health checks are irrelevant. He was prohibited by federal law from legally owning a firearm. He was also utilizing magazines with a capacity in excess of what is legal in California. Who would you like to conduct these "mental health surveys"? Who sets the standards for what constitutes a prohibited mental health issue? There are already background checks in place that prohibit violent felons from legally owning firearms and using a firearm in commission of a felony already adds on additional years to a sentence. This is what he meant by check California's gun laws.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:43 PM
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Didn't read the replies from gun owners but let me guess it goes something like this "thoughts and prayers but no new laws"


That's right because we've read the GD fifth amendment.

That goes. No person shall be held answerable to a capital or otherwise infamous crime.......



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: jacquesdarippa


Yet he had one...


A legal fire arm?

Do you have proof of this?


...which means the current laws are doing nothing to stop this from happening.


Hmmm... firstly, until you provide proof of the above, you cannot say that...

On the flip side you’re basically asking for a law that does prevent legal ownership (which would only affect law abiding citizens)...
Which is unconstitutional... & not worth debating.


Never said it was a legal gun, just saying that the gun laws that exist now are doing nothing to stop illegal guns. They need to create stricter laws regarding illegal guns. Random stop and check or home visit, when person is known criminal.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:43 PM
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a reply to: jacquesdarippa

California already had a mandatory ten year additional sentence on top of any other sentence for any crime involving the use of a firearm.

So...?



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: jacquesdarippa

A law of that nature would guarantee that more people would actually be killed when people are committing crimes. If you're going to do an automatic 20 year bit for just possessing the firearm while committing the crime, they're going to kill any potential witnesses because it's only going to add another 5 years to their sentence so it's worth the risk of killing all witnesses in an attempt to get away with it.



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