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The Korean War should be renamed.

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posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 07:59 PM
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The Korean War should be renamed to the "Chinese/American War" or the "Chinese/American Conflict".
Our war in Vietnam was a war with the North Vietnamese. Or war in Iraq was with the Iraqi's. But our war in Korea was only temporarily with the North Koreans. After we wiped them out, and were on the eve of their complete annihilation, did the Chinese enter the war with a million man army. The war and peace negotiations from that point forward were with the Chinese.
Truman severely gimped the original forces of General MacArthur. He did so because he was certain that China would eventually enter the war, thus he wanted to ensure the war did not spill over into Chinese territory creating a much larger conflict. Hence General MacArthur was fired.

I think it is misleading to call that conflict the Korean War. It should be named to describe who our conflict was really with, and why we lost so many American lives. Also, it serves to bolster the Kim regime. As they continuously state that they drove the US forces from Korea, when it was politics and millions of Chinese that actually did that.

Edit: If this is the wrong forum, please move it to the correct one.
edit on 5-11-2017 by FingerMan because: (no reason given)




posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: FingerMan

Well it has to do with the location. Vietnam war, Iraq war, Korean War. They’re just where they are at.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:35 PM
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The Korean War should be renamed to the "Chinese/American War" or the "Chinese/American Conflict".

Yep. Occupying the Korean Peninsula is about surrounding and containing the Chinese (and Russians).

Its easier to threaten nations from land bases than it is mounting amphibious operations from the Sea. Occupying the Korean Peninsula is a toe hold on the Asian continent. Geo-strategically speaking, occupation of just the southern half of the Peninsula its a poor position to defend, the US military's back is to the ocean. Strategically much more advantageous to occupy the whole Peninsula, meanwhile pretend thats not the goal by focusing on Evil Dictators and WMD.

Thats what the whole Asian Pivot thing is about, taking more of the Korean Peninsula to further the goal of Global Domination.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:38 PM
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The Korean War was also called a police action.

The biggest reason that the Korean peninsula is a problem child today was because American politics of the day.

The president didn't like/want MacArthur.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 09:40 PM
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Hilarious that no one so far knows anything on the history of the Korean War or Korea for that matter.
Start here

Korea



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog

I didn't go into the history of how the conflict started. The Russians controlled the North of Korea, and the Americans had the Southern part. We set up a democratic government, whilst the Russians set up a communist dictatorship. Truman refused to arm the South Korean Government, and so North Korea ran over the South Koreans and some Americans stationed there. In all honestly, the entire conflict seems to have sprung from the reluctance and weakness of our President at the time. If MacArthur had the necessary forces, or the the South Koreans were armed to begin with, the conflict wouldn't even make the history books.

Still. The reason it hits the history books is because of the carnage the Chinese produced against vastly inferior US number of forces. We still held our own, which is amazing. It was the Chinese that pushed us back. It was the Chinese that negotiated peace and the demarcation. The North Koreans were defeated soundly. Hence, it is really the beginning of our cold war with China.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 02:25 AM
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I agree.

We should rename it Korean Wars Episode I The Phantom Menace.

I hear they're working on a sequel with much better special effects.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 02:42 AM
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That war is named by the location. Like the Crimean war. Like, for that matter, "the war in Vietnam".
Where do you get the idea that it is obligatory to name a war by its participants?
Sometimes wars are named from their causes; The War of Jenkin's Ear, the War of the Spanish Succession, the War of the Austrian Succession.
Sometimes they are named from the length of time involved; The Hundred Years War, the Thirty Years War (1618-48), the Seven Years War (1756-63), The Seven Weeks War (1866), the Six Days War(1967). You may notice the ominous fact that these periods are getting shorter.

The names of wars are not legal things, you know. Just convenient labels for historians.





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posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 03:18 AM
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originally posted by: FingerMan
Still. The reason it hits the history books is because of the carnage the Chinese produced against vastly inferior US number of forces.


There were other nations involved on the side of South Korea. Not just the South Koreans and the US, there was a coalition from the United Nations who struggled. See Battle of Imjin as a case in point.

Anyway, to the OP. No, the Korean War should not be renamed. The war was started by an invasion of the South by the North, with support from the Communists. The North and the South had become de facto nations in their own right, following post WW2 partitioning.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 03:34 AM
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Why Do North Koreans Hate Us? One Reason — They Remember the Korean War.


How many Americans, for example, are aware of the fact that U.S. planes dropped on the Korean peninsula more bombs — 635,000 tons — and napalm — 32,557 tons — than during the entire Pacific campaign against the Japanese during World War II?

How many Americans know that “over a period of three years or so,” to quote Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay, head of the Strategic Air Command during the Korean War, “we killed off … 20 percent of the population”?

Twenty. Percent. For a point of comparison, the Nazis exterminated 20 percent of Poland’s pre-World War II population. According to LeMay, “We went over there and fought the war and eventually burned down every town in North Korea.”

Every. Town. More than 3 million civilians are believed to have been killed in the fighting, the vast majority of them in the north.

How many Americans are familiar with the statements of Secretary of State Dean Rusk or Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas? Rusk, who was a State Department official in charge of Far Eastern affairs during the Korean War, would later admit that the United States bombed “every brick that was standing on top of another, everything that moved.” American pilots, he noted, “were just bombing the heck out of North Korea.”

Douglas visited Korea in the summer of 1952 and was stunned by the “misery, disease, pain and suffering, starvation” that had been “compounded” by air strikes. U.S. warplanes, having run out of military targets, had bombed farms, dams, factories, and hospitals. “I had seen the war-battered cities of Europe,” the Supreme Court justice confessed, “but I had not seen devastation until I had seen Korea.”

How many Americans have ever come across Gen. Douglas MacArthur’s unhinged plan to win the war against North Korea in just 10 days? MacArthur, who led the United Nations Command during the conflict, wanted to drop “between 30 and 50 atomic bombs … strung across the neck of Manchuria” that would have “spread behind us … a belt of radioactive cobalt.”

How many Americans have heard of the No Gun Ri massacre, in July 1950, in which hundreds of Koreans were killed by U.S. warplanes and members of the 7th U.S. Cavalry regiment as they huddled under a bridge? Details of the massacre emerged in 1999, when the Associated Press interviewed dozens of retired U.S. military personnel. “The hell with all those people,” one American veteran recalled his captain as saying. “Let’s get rid of all of them.”

How many Americans are taught in school about the Bodo League massacre of tens of thousands of suspected communists on the orders of the U.S.-backed South Korean strongman, President Syngman Rhee, in the summer of 1950? Eyewitness accounts suggest “jeeploads” of U.S. military officers were present and “supervised the butchery.”

Millions of ordinary Americans may suffer from a toxic combination of ignorance and amnesia, but the victims of U.S. coups, invasions, and bombing campaigns across the globe tend not to. Ask the Iraqis or the Iranians, ask the Cubans or the Chileans. And, yes, ask the North Koreans.



posted on Nov, 7 2017 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

Nowhere in that article did it ever describe the Chinese.
The forgotten part about the Korean Police Action, is the War that took place between the US and China.



posted on Nov, 7 2017 @ 11:02 PM
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I would say re-name it "The Never Ending Story" but that has been used already...




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