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posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
So the gunman was an alt left antifa loon.


Not verified, but it's looking that way.




posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:13 PM
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It doesn't seem that gun regulations have helped, since mass shootings are on the rise regardless.

I think people's minds are being "shattered" , especially our youth, through constant images of violence on television. Just look at shows like "Family Guy".....this is an adult cartoon, shown during prime time when kids are watching. "Stewy" is a horrible little murderous baby who wants to kill his Mother ! That's just one example of many very violent "cartoons".

We are being MK ultra'ed on a mass scale, if I'm ever lucky enough to became a Grandma, there will be little to no TV at Grandma's house ! That's one place to start , turn off the Damm TV !



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:13 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko



Having stable, two parent homes with stable extended family structure helps buffer against the one crappy parent. That's why I bring it up. These days, if a kid has one stable, reliable parent, and that is the crappy parent, that child is almost certainly doomed.


That is reasonable.



I also know you being up socioeconomics, but understand, if the kid has one crappy parent and no back up in family structure, then you can dump all the monetary aid you want in there, and it won't help. You're just making a rich disaster instead of a poorer one. Money does not give the kid the social, emotional stability he or she needs to grow up well-rounded and stable.


Again, I agree. But we cannot dismiss the smaller aspects that may create the bigger picture.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:13 PM
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a reply to: introvert




What agenda am I pushing, except one of wanting to have a logical, reasonable conversation beyond the hyperbolics you speak of and perpetuate?


The first sign of agenda is political talking points. 'Honest conversation'.

Which means there is no honesty to be had.

And the biggest reason it fails is because of a well known legal defense called 'temporary insanity'.

Because it is a subjective term to begin with.

Mental issue/guns is hyperbolics and straight up FEAR mongering.

Irrational thinking.

And some want an 'honest conversation' for whatever reason to 'defend' against something that has no defense against.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: TheJesuit





edit on 5-11-2017 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Xcathdra
So the gunman was an alt left antifa loon.


Not verified, but it's looking that way.

No. That's photoshopped on /pol/.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: proximo


What you are doing is trying to drag me down to your level to argue...not gonna happen.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

UPDATE: Sutherland Springs Gunman Devin Kelley Wore “All Black” – Facebook Page Suggests He Was Diehard Atheist, CNN Fan


now reported on

Source


Product of Left wing Fake News and Atheism.

Another tragedy linked to #resistance propaganda.


Wore black/atheist/Cnn fan/gateway pundit.

Are you serious?

Thank you for not helping.


Ahh you are one of those who don't like facts, even when there are few to go around so far.


So you admit there are few facts, you're just throwing around partisan bull# as usual.

Thanks for proving my point.


The few facts known don't fit your narrative so you dismiss them, proves your agenda.



Yes it is ironic that the facts lead to where Lefties do not like.

A church packed with what a nutcase (dishonorable discharged) CNN viewer (proven form his fb likes) would deduce as conservative Trump voters, gets shot up by an atheist (proven by his fb again) who by law cannot possess firearms (there goes your gun laws arguments).

You Lefties must truly hate how this one is going.

Leftwing domestic terror laws need to be enacted to track these people. He posted his illegal weapon possession on facebook. If he was detected sooner by watching Leftwing radicals it could have been stopped.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: neo96

In what alternate universe is murdering 2 dozen innocent people, children included, AT CHURCH not considered bat guano nuts?


In a world where the person hasn't been mentally adjudicated by a licensed practitioner.

In every news article out there there is a word that has been repeated.

'ALLEGED'.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed




I find myself agreeing with introvert on this subject, a discussion needs to be had about what is leading these people to flip out and want to hurt so many others.


My right isn't up for debate. Thus no discussion is to be had.

It is insulting to myself and millions of other Americans that have done nothing.


You're right.

It's not about limiting guns, but certain people from getting them.

And what causes people to snap.

Yeah with a focus on Veterans and PTSD.


No, it isn't.


From the quote:

It's not about limiting guns, but certain people from getting them.

What certain people?

Yes, I said that.

People who have mental health issues. And why there should be better screening and information sharing.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: TheJesuit









Isnt that interesting....



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:16 PM
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I know i know but if anyone can get that screen shot up as a pic it explains a lot and assigns a cause to this tragedy

a reply to: Liquesence



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Then I will just sit at my original position that the shooter was an asshole that should burn in hell.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

I don't know which I should do... laugh or be sad at you taking 4chan's bait.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert




What agenda am I pushing, except one of wanting to have a logical, reasonable conversation beyond the hyperbolics you speak of and perpetuate?


The first sign of agenda is political talking points. 'Honest conversation'.

Which means there is no honesty to be had.

And the biggest reason it fails is because of a well known legal defense called 'temporary insanity'.

Because it is a subjective term to begin with.

Mental issue/guns is hyperbolics and straight up FEAR mongering.

Irrational thinking.

And some want an 'honest conversation' for whatever reason to 'defend' against something that has no defense against.


Ok, Neo.

I can see that you're going of the rails again.

I said I want to put the firearm issue to the side and you are still pissing your pants from the shadows you see on the wall.

I'll be on my way and I think you for proving my original point. Could not have done any better.


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posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Then I will just sit at my original position that the shooter was an asshole that should burn in hell.

Nobody disagrees with that.
Just be careful with fake news and 4chan trolling.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Xcathdra

Pretty sure you have non fake news source.

Edit: Just saw your edited post. That's photoshopped from 4chan.


Photo removed.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:17 PM
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The emblem doesn't seem to wrinkle as the cloth does on the left. Maybe I'm wrong though.

edit

I suppose he could have added it versus being an actual flag or banner. Didn't someone here have his FB page before it went away.


edit on 11/5/2017 by roadgravel because: (no reason given)

edit on 11/5/2017 by roadgravel because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Xcathdra
So the gunman was an alt left antifa loon.


Not verified, but it's looking that way.


Photo removed



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Then I will just sit at my original position that the shooter was an asshole that should burn in hell.


No man he was 'nutz' the evil black object made him do it.




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