Why Hillary is STILL relevant.

-Chris

a reply to: ColeYounger

1) I'm not a Hillary supporter.
2) What I care about is irrelevant in a court of law.
3) A meme isn't an example of a crime that hillary has been found guilty of that she isn't serving her punishment for.

PS: Nice way to lower the arguing bar and set more examples why listening to you guys' opinions about Hillary's crimes is a waste of time.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Krazy,
You’re not a Hillary supporter???
Ok, I’ll bite...
Who did you support in the 2016 election???

-Chris

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: GuidedKill
You're correct she is innocent until proven guilty.

But there has to be a real investigation first to determine if she committed a crime...Do you think Hillary has really been truly investigated for half the crimes she appears to be guilty of or at least have been accomplice to?

Sure. I don't see any reason to think otherwise. Nothing sticks against her after many many many investigations and the only people who say otherwise have reason to hate her. Thus I don't trust them.

Please show me where even a fraction of what has come to light recently has been thoroughly investigated....Hell show me where it has even been investigated with half of the veracity that they have gone after Trump..

And Trump is only possibly guilty of one crime and that would be obstruction....And we all know how paper thin that charge would be.

So answer me honestly, has Hillary really been investigated?

Um. No. I'm not going to do any of that. If you don't accept the current investigations into hillary nothing I say will change your mind. Your witch hunt will continue unabated.

So an FBI investigating a crime and coming to their conclusion before even interviewing the main suspect in the crime is the type of investigation your ok with??


I really hope that isn't the case. While we may disagree on a lot of things I really hope you're not the kind of person who believes in two justice systems, one for them and one for us. As a former LE myself and Narcotics Investigator I can tell you NO ONE makes a decision on guilt before interviewing the suspect.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: nwtrucker

The allegations are just talking points the right wing media just won't let go. If Hillary manages to disprove one, they alter the goal posts a bit and then invent a new investigation. It's a stupid song and dance that boils down to, "We want to investigated literally everything Hillary Clinton has ever done just because we don't like her". The links to her wrong doing with the current controversies (like the new Uranaium One controversy) are so tenuous at this point it is laughable.

Not all of the allegations are just right wing talking points. There should have been serious legal consequences for the email scandal. Literally everyone in my unit, Republicans and Democrats, thought she should go down for that because we were all subject to the same laws on classified material and we all knew what she did would land all of us in Leavenworth.

Only CONSERVATIVE "mainstream media" constantly brings her up.

I'd hardly call that being "relevant".

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: GuidedKill

Just on Benghazi we spent 7 million and two years. The House Republicans are just bad at their jobs.

I agree that particular investigation came up with nothing and at a high cost to the tax payers.....So if you're so fiscally minded do you care that we are again currently wasting money investigating something that isn't even a crime....Collusion.

a reply to: Christosterone

Bernie Sanders.

a reply to: GuidedKill



That's fine, punish Hillary if she is found guilty, but again, she is not in the White House. I am more concerned at trump starting a war. My God, if Hillary would have won, so be it. She wouldn't start a war. Then she could be impeached if found guilty (like trump will). Also the right always bring up the Uranium deal...I wish they would educate themselves about it, because its not even half true, but partially. Again go to POLIFACT. There you will find MANY sources about different things good and bad.


This White House is nothing but an "adult daycare". trump is unfit, and unhinged. Who smiles at someone who lost their home, has no clean water, no electricity, and says "Have Fun" while tossing them a roll of paper towels? Who says that? trump that's who! The man is truly a moron. He cant even fake being compassionate.

originally posted by: GuidedKill
So an FBI investigating a crime and coming to their conclusion before even interviewing the main suspect in the crime is the type of investigation your ok with??


I really hope that isn't the case. While we may disagree on a lot of things I really hope you're not the kind of person who believes in two justice systems, one for them and one for us. As a former LE myself and Narcotics Investigator I can tell you NO ONE makes a decision on guilt before interviewing the suspect.

I believe that the right wing media has lied and misrepresented what happened in the Hillary investigations so extensively that I trust the government over them.

originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: GuidedKill



My God, if Hillary would have won, so be it. She wouldn't start a war.

She wanted to try to create a no-fly zone in Syria.

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: nwtrucker

The allegations are just talking points the right wing media just won't let go. If Hillary manages to disprove one, they alter the goal posts a bit and then invent a new investigation. It's a stupid song and dance that boils down to, "We want to investigated literally everything Hillary Clinton has ever done just because we don't like her". The links to her wrong doing with the current controversies (like the new Uranaium One controversy) are so tenuous at this point it is laughable.

Not all of the allegations are just right wing talking points. There should have been serious legal consequences for the email scandal. Literally everyone in my unit, Republicans and Democrats, thought she should go down for that because we were all subject to the same laws on classified material and we all knew what she did would land all of us in Leavenworth.

Then why is no one investigating the Trump admin for the SAME, EXACT crimes?
Report: Kushner, Ivanka Trump used third private email account

a reply to: DanteGaland

Which one of these is 'CONSERVATIVE "mainstream media"?'

Hillary Clinton on the conservative media: 'It appears they don't know I'm not president'
Washington Post 22h ago
Related Coverage
4:40
Hillary Clinton visits Winnetka to promote book, promises 'great chapter about Russia'
Chicago Tribune Oct 30, 2017
Clinton on Russia investigation: "We know everything we need to know"
CBS News Oct 30, 2017
Hillary Clinton: 'It appears they don't know I'm not president'
MSNBC 1h ago
Related Coverage
Hillary Clinton: I'm thinking of dressing up as the president for Halloween
Highly Cited Chicago Tribune Oct 30, 2017
Hillary Clinton Jokes About What She'll Be For Halloween This Year
HuffPost Oct 31, 2017

That's from a google news search for the phrase, "Hillary Clinton."

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I'm confused still. I read that rant but I still don't understand why the right is still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton. The OP seems to be blaming the left on why they (the right) can't let her go.

Let me simplify it for you. The left doesn't let her go. Specifically, the MSM. So they play her up, I see no reason in blaming the right for responding and, in fact, taking advantage of the MSM/left's tactics.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Of course you supported Bernie...

Well, let’s find you a meme...or two


Total Aside:
Socialism is a mental disorder...
The human genome is programmed to strive...to not only be curious about what’s over the next hill, but want to be the first to see it...
Anything contrary to this most basic evolutionary adaptation is anathema to the human condition...





-Chris

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: GuidedKill
So an FBI investigating a crime and coming to their conclusion before even interviewing the main suspect in the crime is the type of investigation your ok with??


I really hope that isn't the case. While we may disagree on a lot of things I really hope you're not the kind of person who believes in two justice systems, one for them and one for us. As a former LE myself and Narcotics Investigator I can tell you NO ONE makes a decision on guilt before interviewing the suspect.

I believe that the right wing media has lied and misrepresented what happened in the Hillary investigations so extensively that I trust the government over them.

WOW so I didn't actually think you would jump in the trap....Color me surprised/not surprised.


Sooo I guess you are ok with living in a Banana Republic and don't care about truth and justice...Well unless it serves your agenda. What that agenda is I have no idea but you have made it clear it isn't about a fair and just system.

a reply to: nwtrucker

I hear FAR more about Hillary from right leaning posters and right leaning media sources. So I disagree here. Case in point. This thread. Unless you are secretly a liberal that is.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: nwtrucker

The allegations are just talking points the right wing media just won't let go. If Hillary manages to disprove one, they alter the goal posts a bit and then invent a new investigation. It's a stupid song and dance that boils down to, "We want to investigated literally everything Hillary Clinton has ever done just because we don't like her". The links to her wrong doing with the current controversies (like the new Uranaium One controversy) are so tenuous at this point it is laughable.

Not all of the allegations are just right wing talking points. There should have been serious legal consequences for the email scandal. Literally everyone in my unit, Republicans and Democrats, thought she should go down for that because we were all subject to the same laws on classified material and we all knew what she did would land all of us in Leavenworth.

Then why is no one investigating the Trump admin for the SAME, EXACT crimes?
Report: Kushner, Ivanka Trump used third private email account

They're not the same exact crimes. That shows you have a serious lack of understanding on this issue. They didn't use their own server, and they turned over all of those emails to the federal records office, as required. If any of those emails contained classified material, it would have been a huge story. Many of the emails Hillary had running through her server were classified. And she knew they were. It's literally impossible for the Secretary of State to never see a classified email, and we know she did ALL of her official email through that server, by her own admission. By default that must have included classified material, because the SecState simply can't do their job without dealing with classified emails.

There's a drastic difference in those cases that you are simply misinformed about.

originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: GuidedKill

Just on Benghazi we spent 7 million and two years. The House Republicans are just bad at their jobs.

I agree that particular investigation came up with nothing and at a high cost to the tax payers.....So if you're so fiscally minded do you care that we are again currently wasting money investigating something that isn't even a crime....Collusion.

Apparently you have not heard of the multiple charges coming out of that investigation against now three people. There are more to come as well. Why do you think trump is lashing out? He always does when something looks bad for the White House. Something even bigger that will come out of this. You alt right said there would be nothing. I guess 12 counts each on two different people is "nothing". They are under arrest as we speak. That is nothing huh?

a reply to: Christosterone

Ugh... Why did I bite...? I gave you the benefit of the doubt and your return with a bunch of idiotic and (most importantly) off topic nonsense. I don't care about your thoughts on Socialism.