Las Vegas Security Guard Left The Country Days After Shooting

originally posted by: fiverx313

originally posted by: FarEastManor
Hey! You should listen to the news, ala CNN, and just believe everything they're saying. Don't believe that anything odd is going on, and just repeat after me..."CNN has this under control. LVMPD has this under control. I believe what I am told." Now, don't you just feel good?

yes, i suppose if i don't join in the frothing conspiracy and spend hours trying to make something out of a bunch of nothing, then i must just be a good little sheep.

what an interesting world you live in!

I have seen your posts...you question everything in regards to Trump.
But nothing else can be questioned?
Their entire Vegas story stinks....this guy Campos is like a puppet that nobody knows how to operate.
The biggest mass murder in US history and this guy wants to take a trip?
They put him on TV and he is like a zombie.
No....nothing is wrong.

Interesting....

Alleged shooter's laptop had NO HARD DRIVE

Alleged shooter's Brother arrested from an assisted living facilty....


KEY witness... wounded security guard... allowed to leave the country.. and reappear on Ellen...



Yep.. this Vegas deal is above board

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: fiverx313

Well you asked about any laws and I quoted one without comment.

Now you're waving your arms and shouting all over the place.

you're cute. you either posted it because you thought it was relevant and it clearly must not have been applied in this case, or you just posted it to make a post, in which case.... lol right back to you?

originally posted by: RazorV66
I have seen your posts...you question everything in regards to Trump.
But nothing else can be questioned?
Their entire Vegas story stinks....this guy Campos is like a puppet that nobody knows how to operate.
The biggest mass murder in US history and this guy wants to take a trip?
They put him on TV and he is like a zombie.
No....nothing is wrong.

i'm all for questioning things, but it's nice if the questions make sense and are leading somewhere. most of the threads i've seen about this so far don't add up to a whole lot.

obviously our opinion on the matter differs significantly. i would want to leave the city for a while, especially with conspiracy nuts jumping all over me online. also didn't think he seemed that out of the ordinary for an average person thrust into the limelight. but i know i'm not going to stop you guys from going on with this. i just feel like it's good to provide some contrast here and there.

originally posted by: fiverx313

yes, i suppose if i don't join in the frothing conspiracy and spend hours trying to make something out of a bunch of nothing, then i must just be a good little sheep.

what an interesting world you live in!

Maybe it's the media that went all conspiracy crazy?
Wounded casino security guard vanishes from Las Vegas
www.latimes.com...
The only material witness to the largest mass shooting in United States history and within 2 weeks nobody knows where he is?

We're the crazy ones for wondering wth is going on ?
Seriously...
Key witnesses should not be leaving the country.
Why did the FBI let him out of their sight?
He should have been under their protection, which may be the explanation for Campos "disappearance"

Eta: contrast is good. I know art would suck without it.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Maybe it's the media that went all conspiracy crazy?
Wounded casino security guard vanishes from Las Vegas
www.latimes.com...

good point... the media's tendency to sensationalize and to run with whatever scrap of info they can get before the story is reliable definitely doesn't help anyone get a clear mental picture of what's going on, or feel confident that they're getting the real story.

only material witness to the largest mass shooting in United States history and within 2 weeks nobody knows where he is?

We're the crazy ones for wondering wth is going on ?

you know... another good point. my language is hyperbolic. i don't think most people who are wondering about this are crazy.

i do think perspective gets lost pretty quickly when the conspiracy thinking ramps up, and things that are not that likely start to seem credible to people who are poring over every bit of what evidence they think they have and trying to make connections that seem unlikely at best.

Seriously...
Key witnesses should not be leaving the country.
Why did the FBI let him out of their sight?
He should have been under their protection, which may be the explanation for Campos "disappearance"

well, thanks to xuenchen's post i now know that witnesses can be arrested if they think it will be hard to get their testimony otherwise. they must have felt that they've gotten everything useful from campos, and/or would not have a hard time getting back in touch with him at need.

can't really comment on the protection angle, seems unlikely if he's been out of the country. in his shoes i might want some of that though -- because of this ugly line that he's in on it somehow, which i do not find credible.

Eta: contrast is good. I know art would suck without it.

hehe

a reply to: fiverx313

Respect, sorry if I came off like a jerk.

Thanks for the perspective.

Eta: forgive me if I don't have much trust in the abc organizations. . .

My guess is visiting family since the press probably had his place staked out. But that aside who cares he could have wanted a hooker who cares why?

a reply to: dragonridr

Well, why travel to mexico when there are plenty of ladies in L.V?

Double post due to phone

Scott does a lot of research. Used to be under FBI custody then protection - or vice versa. Some of his intel has proven out incorrect but he always admits it. That’s one reason I trust he’s doing the best he can to get the truth. Has been able to prove some interesting stuff. Including a girl getting shot in head outside or near Tropicana and Hooters after SP killed, even though he originally said there were no other shooters at other hotels. He’s fluid but admits it as the evidence shows itself. I trust he’s being as diligent as he can be considering he’s relying on data and informants that either could be truthful or trying to throw him off the track. He’s definitely putting in the work. Reply to: JaeG14

originally posted by: denybedoomed
a reply to: dragonridr

Well, why travel to mexico when there are plenty of ladies in L.V?

Why not? I think you missed the point completely. There is nothing wrong with visiting mexico he isnt a suspect. He has no restrictions and going out on a limb him being a mexican american probably been there before. So again who cares he might have wanted to get a bucket of dos xx.

originally posted by: denybedoomed
a reply to: fiverx313

Respect, sorry if I came off like a jerk.

you most definitely did not. you were very polite, imo.

i'm the one being rude, and overusing the word 'nut' here.

when i see conspiracy stuff really get going, i just automatically think of the people who call sandy hook parents to yell at them about being liars, or the guy who took his gun to the pizza place to get answers. i just feel terrible for campos, who can't even leave his house or stay in his house without some attention whore like carson wanting to 'just ask questions' about it, and paint a target on this poor guy's back.

regardless, though, i shouldn't stereotype conspiracy thinkers like that, or run to the extreme. especially when i'm saying hey let's be logical and fact-based here, haha

a reply to: fiverx313

Conspiracy nuts? "All of YOU"?
Erm ok so why exactly are you here considering this is a conspiracy site?

Don't understand what the big deal is? I don't blame the guy for wanting to get away for a few days after the trauma of the shooting. It's not like he fled and didn't come back! It's not like he tried to flee to Mexico using false identification! Thus is a non story in my books but in the books of some this will be further "proof" that Campos and Paddock were best buddies who did the massacre together

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: fiverx313

Conspiracy nuts? "All of YOU"?
Erm ok so why exactly are you here considering this is a conspiracy site?

Ok so in the post JUST before yours fiverx313 appoligizes for using "nut" & said he was rude. It takes a man who has respect to do this and admit he shouldn't have used the word/phrase. So was it really necessary to turn around and attack him like this? Did it make you feel good? Oh by the way thus site it much more then just a conspiracy site these days.

a reply to: TheOnlyBilko

It wasn't an attack and I posted BEFORE he had retracted
Now you're attacking me for posting in retaliation to him name calling so I'll attack you for attacking me for responding to a percieved insult when I've every right to do so.

So is that the attacking over with now? Can I go back to a defensive formation?

Could he have had permission from the FBI or local police to travel to Mexico?
Or could the FBI have sent him to Mexico to confuse us all even more with this case?
Nothing makes sense about this case..

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: fiverx313

Conspiracy nuts? "All of YOU"?
Erm ok so why exactly are you here considering this is a conspiracy site?

there is a lot of content on this site i find interesting, including the conspiracy side of things. i just get concerned when things seem to go in the direction of targeting someone i think is pretty likely to be innocent and just got caught up in circumstances.

but you are completely right to call me out for my language, and i apologize for painting with so broad a brush.

originally posted by: TheOnlyBilko
Ok so in the post JUST before yours fiverx313 appoligizes for using "nut" & said he was rude. It takes a man who has respect to do this and admit he shouldn't have used the word/phrase.

thank you for your kind words. i figured phyllida just replied before getting to my later post.

btw i'm not a man... just so you know

originally posted by: TheOnlyBilko
Don't understand what the big deal is? I don't blame the guy for wanting to get away for a few days after the trauma of the shooting. It's not like he fled and didn't come back! It's not like he tried to flee to Mexico using false identification! Thus is a non story in my books but in the books of some this will be further "proof" that Campos and Paddock were best buddies who did the massacre together

that's what i'm saying... seems like a total non-issue. :/