About the Vegas Killer... newest info

a reply to: Boadicea

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web.archive.org/web/20171003084931/www.kitv.com...

originally posted by: judydawg
a reply to: Boadicea

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web.archive.org/web/20171003084931/www.kitv.com...

Not anymore!!!

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They sure made short shrift of that!

a reply to: judydawg

What WAS It? This makes me curious.

a reply to: Boadicea

The answer from KITV's Facebook:

KITV Moanikeala Nabarro Our
station stands behind our story but he's been bombarded with calls from
media and wanted story taken off web site. We respected his wishes

www.kitv.com...

originally posted by: nikkib0421
a reply to: judydawg

My husband came across this on Facebook. I didn't know how trustworthy the information was. If true....it just adds to the suspicion.

I know we are scraping the bottom for the info. I just put anything and everything maybe something will add up.

a reply to: nikkib0421

It was an archive of the removed article about the valet saying that Paddock seemed like a normal guy, and that he didn't recall anything unusual about his luggage.

The archived copy is here:

www.kitv.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Hawaii native parked shooter's car

ETA: Here is the full link for copying and pasting: web.archive.org...://www.kitv.com/story/36505487/hawaii-native-parked-shooters-car

A Kamehameha graduate working as a valet at the Mandalay Bay Resort said he parked the shooter's car on Saturday. The gunman, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, checked his car into the hotel on Saturday morning.
Valet Chad Nishimura, who is from Mililani, said he spoke briefly with Paddock.

"Just in shock, really. It's scary to know that I was close to someone that was that dangerous. I would've never thought. He seemed like a normal guy. When he came in, nothing too weird about him. He didn't have any crazy bags with him that I can remember. We are a convention hotel so we have a bunch of people that have boxes and multiple carts worth of stuff. There's nothing weird that I can remember," Nishimura said.

Nishimura and hundreds of employees at Mandalay Bay are cooperating with FBI agents as investigations continue.

A number of people from Hawaii were at Sunday night's concert or nearby. Social media helped connect family and friends worried about their loved ones.

Tara Spangler, originally from Pa'ia Maui, was working close to the concert venue, at the Hooter's Casino.
She posted on her Facebook page that she was safe but said shooting victims fleeing the concert, swarmed into the casino.

"You can just see towels of blood everywhere and people walking past and they have like blood spots on their shirts and even on their face. I remember asking a girl, 'Hey are you OK?' Because she was just covered in blood and she said, 'Yeah, (she was shaking) and said this is not my blood,'" Spangler said.

Spangler said they could hear bullets firing in the distance. Fearing for her own life, she hid inside a closet.

ETA: I can't get the link to format correctly -- sorry!

a reply to: nikkib0421

Hawaii native parked shooter's car
Posted: Oct 03, 2017 12:04 AM EDT
Updated: Oct 03, 2017 12:04 AM EDT
By Moanike'ala NabarroCONNECT

(Courtesy of Eric Paddock via AP)
(Courtesy of Eric Paddock via AP)
A Kamehameha graduate working as a valet at the Mandalay Bay Resort said he parked the shooter's car on Saturday. The gunman, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, checked his car into the hotel on Saturday morning.
Valet Chad Nishimura, who is from Mililani, said he spoke briefly with Paddock.
"Just in shock, really. It's scary to know that I was close to someone that was that dangerous. I would've never thought. He seemed like a normal guy. When he came in, nothing too weird about him. He didn't have any crazy bags with him that I can remember. We are a convention hotel so we have a bunch of people that have boxes and multiple carts worth of stuff. There's nothing weird that I can remember," Nishimura said.
Nishimura and hundreds of employees at Mandalay Bay are cooperating with FBI agents as investigations continue.
A number of people from Hawaii were at Sunday night's concert or nearby. Social media helped connect family and friends worried about their loved ones.
Tara Spangler, originally from Pa'ia Maui, was working close to the concert venue, at the Hooter's Casino.
She posted on her Facebook page that she was safe but said shooting victims fleeing the concert, swarmed into the casino.
"You can just see towels of blood everywhere and people walking past and they have like blood spots on their shirts and even on their face. I remember asking a girl, 'Hey are you OK?' Because she was just covered in blood and she said, 'Yeah, (she was shaking) and said this is not my blood,'" Spangler said.
Spangler said they could hear bullets firing in the distance. Fearing for her own life, she hid inside

web.archive.org...://www.kitv.com/story/36505487/hawaii-native-parked-shooters-car

a reply to: Boadicea

Thanks!

a reply to: judydawg

They are obviously junking any and all stories that don't portray Paddock as a monster.

That alone should raise red flags.

originally posted by: nikkib0421
a reply to: judydawg

They are obviously junking any and all stories that don't portray Paddock as a monster.

That alone should raise red flags.

I also think this is a deliberate effort to keep us focused on Paddock and quibbling about ridiculous rumors and whatnot... instead of focusing on who really did this and how they did this.

Maybe I'm just impatient, because in my mind there is no doubt that there was multiple shooters in multiple locations. One person did not do this, and certainly not Paddock. And I have no doubt that there is an ongoing operation/investigation by the FBI and other fed agencies/agents behind all of this.

I can even see a scenario in which the FBI is withholding the truth for all the right reasons... because folks can do the wrong thing for the right reason. I can also see a scenario in which the FBI were watching in real time, and were on-site long before the shooting started, and may have prevented it from being even more tragic.

I'm not sure where to go from here, so I'm trying to look at all the firsthand accounts of multiple shooters, as well as the videos, and also the real-time social media posts that were made. I don't know what I'll find, or even what to expect to find, much less what I will find. But maybe I can match up some accounts from different perspectives and positions, find some kind of pattern... I don't know.

But I do believe Paddock is just a distraction. If he even exists. That may just be a completely fabricated identity for undercover work that they decided to throw away because it's now compromised, or it was expendable for the cause.

a reply to: nikkib0421

That and there was nothing unusual about his luggage,
nothing oddly heavy or weirdly shaped and considered it less than
most guests because many were visiting a convention.

A few posts ago, someone asked what a "quick clinic" is. The answer (apparently) is that it's a sort of drop-in centre for non-emergency issues. What we in the UK would recognise as a "walk-in centre", as in there's no need for an ambulance or urgent intervention, the patient presents him or herself in their own good time.

I'm not sure whether "quick" refers to the speed of treatment, or whether it's ye olde usage of "quick", meaning mobile or active (as in "the quick and the dead", "quicksilver" and "quicksand"). Possibly the difference doesn't matter these days.

Anyway. It's a loose term for a place where you get low-level medical attention. IOW, Campos "pulled a sickie" to get out of his interview.

Check out the video in this article: mfatv.wistia.com...

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE - WHO IS THE VEGAS FBI HIDING ON THE 47TH FLOOR OF MGM VDARA? / SECOND SHOOTER ARRESTED BREAKING NEW LAS VEGAS EXCLUSIVE EVIDENCE: 10/14/2017

Tonight's private MFA Underground show with MFA - March For America Founder/CEO "Scott J Binsack"... "WHO IS THE VEGAS FBI HIDING ON THE 47TH FLOOR OF VDARA? / SECOND SHOOTER ARRESTED"

Scott J. Binsack shares more exclusive evidence given to him by his sources in Las Vegas that the FBI since October 2nd has been hiding out a mystery man on the 47th floor of the MGM Vdara Hotel and Spa in Las Vegas under heavy guard and an alias name in the MGM guest registry system.

Scott further confirms that MGM Resorts got served with its first victim legal action and has ordered all MGM employees on a gag order not to speak to anyone concerning the October 1st, 2017 Harvest Shooting Massacre.

Scott then goes on to explain his sources in the federal government have confirmed that Scott Edminsten arrested on October 2nd in the State of Tennessee with a large weapons cache while speeding is tied to Stephen Paddock and that MSM is deliberately not reporting on this major arrest and gun seizures. He further goes into the possibility that alleged Mandalay Bay Security Guard Jesus Campos may be an FBI Agent undercover at the time of Stephen Paddock's shooting. A show not to miss!!

Check out: "Johnson City man "Scott A. Edmisten" arrested after deputies find automatic weapons, 900+ rounds of ammo in stop" link

a reply to: Boadicea

I agree about Paddock. While i do think he existed, I don't think he was a monster. They have been forced to sacrifice him( not any type of occult sacrifice) to cover their collective butts.

Personally, I think I'm going to focus on events leading up to the shooting and following the shooting. I feel like so many are focused on the shooting itself. I think the real clues would lie on either side of it. Mary Lou, Campos, maintence man, etc.

I'm not even willing to toss out that Campos was actually a hero. Maybe he was and the power players are throwing him under the bus.

a reply to: Boadicea

I think more people were in that room. Possibly dead.

a reply to: judydawg

Didn't someone that was staying in the hotel report that there were several people dead after this event?

Multiple people dead makes 200+ rounds being shot sound more plausible.

originally posted by: Boadicea

Several people have pointed out shortcomings and/or flaws in my reasoning, and when the facts as I understood them changed, my opinion changed.

You have not met that challenge.

I can vouch for that.
I have followed this thread since the beginning and believe that there is no hard stand by anyone. I think posters in this thread have been open to all the info and I have even changed my mind on some things through the course of the thread.
Nice job Boadicea 👏

a reply to: audubon

Thank you for the explanation of "quick" center. That's pretty much what I was wondering -- if it's what I know as a walk-in urgent care facility. The place to go when it's not serious enough to go to a hospital emergency room, but more urgent than can wait for a doctor's appointment in a few days.

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

Also, I haven't heard another person was shot with the bullet being left inside. You don't have a link for that, do you?

I don't have a link (and I know you weren't speaking to me) but there is a young pretty blonde lady I remember saying, tearfully, that she'd have a bullet in her back for the rest of her life.

I don’t know the reason why they opted to leave the bullets in them but as I understand, it’s not uncommon at all for gun shot victims.

The risk of surgery to remove the fragments is higher than the risk of leaving them in.

It might be a pain in the A$$ to go through TSA lines because you’d set off the metal detectors, maybe.

a reply to: sled735

Scott then goes on to explain his sources in the federal government have confirmed that Scott Edminsten arrested on October 2nd in the State of Tennessee with a large weapons cache while speeding is tied to Stephen Paddock and that MSM is deliberately not reporting on this major arrest and gun seizures.

Interesting... I was checking out this guy and his story this morning! It's real, and I wouldn't say the media are ignoring it because I found plenty of articles, just not any direct connection to Vegas beyond the involvement of weapons.

If you listen, will you let us know what he says about Edminsten? And anything else interesting?