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About the Vegas Killer... newest info

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posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 12:47 PM
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Has it been mentioned what year Marylou and Paddock started dating? Everything i have seen she states anywhere between "a few years" to "some years".

I just wanted to see if she hooked up with him maybe shortly after he sued the casino.

In his court deposition he gives a lot of details about his gambling habits.....and just a lot of info overall. I'm wondering if the Fed's used this information to recruit him via Mary Lou.
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posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: nikkib0421
Has it been mentioned what year Marylou and Paddock started dating? Everything i have seen she states anywhere between "a few years" to "some years".


I've read sometime in 2013, about the same time she rented an apartment in one of his complexes, but she might have already been dating him. Apparently, she was married at the time, so this led to her divorce from Mr. Danley. I guess she needed a new place to live, eh?


I just wanted to see if she hooked up with him maybe shortly after he sued the casino.

In his court deposition he gives a lot of details about his gambling habits.....and just a lot of info overall. I'm wondering if the Fed's used this information to recruit him via Mary Lou.


Are you suggesting that Marilou is some kind of federal agent as well? I'm strongly considering that also...



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

I'm thinking she might be. Obviously, I have no definitive proof of this. Just given her past, how she ran off (or was sent away), and almost zero follow-up about her ...leads me to believe they want her to be a ghost for a reason.

I just wonder if she is how he got involved in all of this.

I havent read all of his deposition (I don't even know if its available) only the stuff highlighted by the MSN. However, it seemed he gave away a ton of information just in the quotes attached to articles.

Also, I feel that if he was involved in undercover work during his fall, he probably wouldn't have sued. I know i souldnt. I would not want people asking questions that could blow my cover potentially.

Eta: I read that her husband was abusive. She claimed Paddock saved her, so to speak. I know certain types of abused women will always date abusive men....however, I don't think Paddock was as mean to her as some claim. I think they're just trying to turn him into a monster that would shoot up a concert.
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posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:13 PM
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Hero security guard of Las Vegas massacre 'checked into a quick clinic' after vanishing minutes before he was due to speak to the media for first time since attack

Jesus Campos's union rep said he went to a 'quick clinic' on Friday afternoon... He did not know which clinic or if Campos required any form of medical help... Campos vanished on Thursday moments before he was due to appear at a press conference... He was earlier awarded for his bravery at a ceremony with the union.

What is a "quick clinic"??? Like an urgent care? Anyone ever heard that term before?

'Right now I'm just concerned where my member is, and what his condition is. It's highly unusual.

'I'm hoping everything is OK with him and I'm sure MGM or the union will let (media) know when we hear something,' David Hickey is the president of the Security, Police, and Fire Professionals of America, told Fox 5 Vegas.


David Hickey knows exactly where Campos is -- and isn't. I don't believe for a minute otherwise.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: nikkib0421

If they are/were both government agents, perhaps that's how they hooked up. Perhaps they just met in the course of their work -- him as a money launderer or whatever and her as a casino hostess. Or perhaps they were assigned to work together on a particular case.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea
Interesting!

I would assume it's the same as urgent care. Here we usually refer to those places as prompt med, but I would guess people call them by different names.

Convenient he ran to a medical facility where most likely HIPPA laws would not allow verification that he was, or wasn't, there.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:19 PM
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Well, duh. Let me be more precise: One cannot aim and shoot a crowd of people AND monitor a laptop at the same time... neither can one aim and shoot a crowd of people AND "glance over your shoulder at a laptop." Nor have we seen any sign that there was a laptop set up for him to monitor the cameras.


he wasn't aiming as in well place shoots it was more like point and shoot.



Oh dear Lordy. You would be talking about this diagram from the New York Times that I referred to, and which the person I was actually speaking to has also seen. And I post it for the benefit of others who may want to understand what I was referring to.


that's a photo with references made. you said diagram, diagrams are drawings with specific reference showing different locations,steps, or what ever information is being relayed. you know sometimes police /fbi do drawing of a crime scene.

plus that's just part of the room, it doesn't show the whole room or what's to the right of him to the left past the photo, or the other busted out window. and certainly not in the kitchen. which you made a comment about. nothing really than other three photos laid over one another in the immediate area of his body. and there no telling what's behind those. if you look you can find images of all three on line. you can't say he did all of his shooting there or from the other window in the other room.

here is a room that has the same layout as his except it on the other side and flipped.


and here is the article it comes from.
Inside the Las Vegas Gunman’s Mandalay Bay Hotel Suite

as you can plainly see that there are portions overlaying the others, plus there are plenty of other spots in that room that he could have placed a laptop within sight. like you say we don't know.

your theory is full of wholes. you can't reasonably justify what your saying with the the information given.

plus if you read my post you will see that i did say please post links, not just links,links links, or links or it didn't happen.
funny how you left out the please. but i guess when someone shoots holes in what your saying or contradicts your theory. you tend to get miffed hunh?

ETA: in the link for the article your image is the in the way it really looks laid over one another.



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posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Anything is possible.

Ahhhhh, this all makes my head spin!



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: nikkib0421
a reply to: Boadicea
Interesting!

Convenient he ran to a medical facility where most likely HIPPA laws would not allow verification that he was, or wasn't, there.


Yes, very convenient. It also ups the sympathy factor for the poor beleaguered hero.

It also occurs to me, though, that if some poor schmuck got coerced into pretending to be Campos, and he got cold feet at the last minute... running to a medical clinic would offer some protection, eh?

Just a thought.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

True on all accounts.

I have a hard time believing that Campos doesn't exist. I don't know why, maybe denial. Plus, I think it would be harder to pull off.

However, why agree to do interviews in the first place? Couldn't you use the excuse "it's an ongoing investigation. I will get back with yall once this is wrapped up"?

Further, if he really didn't feel well....why not call EMS? Go big or go home.

Do we even have legit confirmation that Campos was in the room to do interviews? No photo opt beforehand?



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:29 PM
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that's a photo with references made. you said diagram


Thank you -- I do know the difference between a diagram and a photo. I said what I meant and I meant what I said. And if you had scrolled down the page just a little, you would have seen the DIAGRAM that I am referring to, and the weapon in the place I referred to. In fact, given that I did specifically say diagram and not photo, I have no idea why you would have assumed that I was referring to a photo, and not actually done your due diligence and continued to see if there was in fact a diagram... in which case you would have seen exactly what I described... and you wouldn't be distracting me with stupid talk.


but i guess when someone shoots in what your saying or contradicts your theory. you tend to get miffed hunh?


Nope. Only the rude and insulting folks that don't know what they're talking about but somehow feel their opinion must be true and add nothing practical or productive to the conversation.

Several people have pointed out shortcomings and/or flaws in my reasoning, and when the facts as I understood them changed, my opinion changed.

You have not met that challenge.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: nikkib0421
a reply to: Boadicea

I have a hard time believing that Campos doesn't exist. I don't know why, maybe denial. Plus, I think it would be harder to pull off.


I keep thinking about the Aussie guy who said that a security guard was killed in the corridor in a shootout with police... maybe that guy is the real Jesus Campos -- or even an FBI dude undercover as a security guard -- and his death is what is being covered up for some reason. Maybe to protect an ongoing investigation?


However, why agree to do interviews in the first place? Couldn't you use the excuse "it's an ongoing investigation. I will get back with yall once this is wrapped up"?


I don't know. If it were me, I would probably agree to do one exclusive interview with someone -- probably a prominent local media person -- either by phone, or in my home, and then tell everyone else to piss off and give me some peace and privacy.


Further, if he really didn't feel well....why not call EMS? Go big or go home.


Good question -- although that would have called more attention to him -- and scrutiny. And everyone would have known where he was taken, so he would have gotten no peace.


Do we even have legit confirmation that Campos was in the room to do interviews? No photo opt beforehand?


Not that I know of. I don't think we have legit confirmation of anything regarding Campos. Just vague statements and fuzzy details no matter how you look at it.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:47 PM
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Here's some specifics from Fox5:

Representative for security guard Jesus Campos speaks out

David Hickey is the president of the Security, Police, and Fire Professionals of America union. He said he had been working with Jesus Campos to help him get ready for his first media interviews.

But Hickey said during a meeting with MGM officials Thursday afternoon, Campos left and never came back.

"For the past four days he's been preparing ... (Thursday) we had a meeting with MGM officials, and after that meeting was over, we talked about the interviews, we went to a private area, and when we came out, Mr. Campos was gone." Hickey said.


So I guess they were at the MGM headquarters when they "came out, and Mr. Campos was gone"? Is that what he's saying?


Hickey said it was Campos who had requested to do the interviews with the media, because he wanted to tell his story and begin to move on.


That makes no sense. I don't think Campos wanted to do anything... someone wanted these interviews done and arranged for it to happen, and for whatever reason Campos couldn't go through with it.


Hickey did say that he got a text Thursday night, saying Campos was taken to a "quick clinic."


Who did he get the text from? Who took Campos to the clinic? What is a "quick clinic"? Was it for the wound? For a nervous breakdown?

It's all so fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

Also, I haven't heard another person was shot with the bullet being left inside. You don't have a link for that, do you?



I don't have a link (and I know you weren't speaking to me) but there is a young pretty blonde lady I remember saying, tearfully, that she'd have a bullet in her back for the rest of her life.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

New information....Vallet has disappeared after saying Poddlock didn't have luggage...

youtu.be...



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: judydawg

My husband came across this on Facebook. I didn't know how trustworthy the information was. If true....it just adds to the suspicion.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: nikkib0421

didn't reports and Mandalay themselves say he had been for a few days before.

this from the original report, in your video.

Here is the full report as it was originally published: A Kamehameha graduate working as a valet at the Mandalay Bay Resort said he parked the shooter’s car on Saturday.


that was the day before the shooting, couldn't he have already had all his stuff up there already? and i don't think it's unusual for people to use valet parking when staying at Mandalay.




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posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 03:00 PM
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How funny... I was just tracking that story down. As near as I can tell, it was 4chan that discovered the article being spiked, and the "missing" part seems to originate at a blog called Neon Nettle. But beyond noting that the valet's social media accounts have been de-activated, there is no source for claims that he himself has disappeared.

In looking at other articles on the site, there seems to be a pattern of making very obscure connections for extreme conclusions.

Maybe he is missing... but that's not clear much less definite at this point.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 03:02 PM
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Just to clarify: I didn't post the video link. That was someone else. I just replied to their post.

Yes, I believe he checked into a different room on the 25th. The story goes, the suite that was being given to him was occupied on the 25th. So, he stayed in a different room until the suite was available.

Also, when he switched rooms he added Mary Lou at check in (that's odd in itself).

It's possible he had the guns in his first room. Then, moved them to the suite.

Plus, it was noted he carried his own bags. I suppise he could have used valet for his car, but passed on the bell hop.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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that was the day before the shooting, couldn't he have already had all his stuff up there already? and i don't think it's unusual for people to use valet parking when staying at Mandalay.


Not to speak for Nikki, but I think the article's purpose was as much to convey that the valet thought he was a "normal guy" -- not a crazed mass murderer -- as it was to convey the lack of anything suspicious about his luggage.

At least, that's what critics are citing as the reason they took the article down, because a "normal guy" doesn't fit with the crazed lone gunman narrative.



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