Easily the most stunning exposure this year. At the U.N no less.

If this isn't the bravest public statement ever, it certainly ranks up there. I have never seen a more speechless assembly in my life.

One 'may' argue his claims-and I'm sure some posters will- yet the pair that hangs on this man are humungous.

I, for one, believe him completely:

www.unwatch.org...

a reply to: nwtrucker

I, for one, believe him completely

Why? There must be a reason other than you wanting to believe it.

I don't claim he's right or wrong, I just don't believe anything someone says. I'm open to the idea though, but I don't think Israel is innocent in the slightest as I'm sure Palestine isn't either.

Lots of conspiracies say the PLO is an Israeli operation.

a reply to: nwtrucker

Thank you, Mr. President.

I take the floor on behalf of UN Watch.

My name is Mosab Hassan Yousef. I grew up in Ramallah as a member of Hamas.

I address my words to the Palestinian Authority, which claims to be the “sole legitimate representative” of the Palestinian people.

I ask: where does your legitimacy come from?

The Palestinian people did not elect you, and they did not appoint you to represent them.

You are self-appointed.

Your accountability is not to your own people. This is evidenced by your total violation of their human rights.

In fact, the Palestinian individual and their human development is the least of your concerns.

You kidnap Palestinian students from campus and torture them in your jails. You torture your political rivals. The suffering of the Palestinian people is the outcome of your selfish political interests. You are the greatest enemy of the Palestinian people.

If Israel did not exist, you would have no one to blame. Take responsibility for the outcome of your own actions.

You fan the flames of conflict to maintain your abusive power.

Finally, you use this platform to mislead the international community, and to mislead Palestinian society, to believe that Israel is responsible for the problems you create.

Thank you.

Wow. Wonder why this isn't getting any press.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: nwtrucker

I, for one, believe him completely

Why? There must be a reason other than you wanting to believe it.

I don't claim he's right or wrong, I just don't believe anything someone says. I'm open to the idea though, but I don't think Israel is innocent in the slightest as I'm sure Palestine isn't either.

There is a source for the continued issues in the region. Believing him doesn't mean I believe any gov't is without sin. None are. There is a plethora of evidence, if one bothers to look, that shows, at least to me, that Israel is the lesser of the sinner, at least in this issue.

I created a thread a while back addressing the hoax of any real desire of the neighboring nations to form a Palestinian State.

The evidence is there. It isn't conclusive. It does, however, raise very serious questions to what the real goal of the region is. My conclusion is ISIL/ISIS. There is no room for an independent state of Palestine in a Muslim super-state. JMO, though.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Lots of conspiracies say the PLO is an Israeli operation.

Not impossible, I suppose.

On the other hand, that could be, and likely is, part of the overall disinformation the speaker refers to.

palestinians are installed by the enemies of Israel to be an abandoned bunch...they wouldnt absorb them back when...

a thousand agreements have been crawdaddied by that group against Israel.

Remember, in this world it's all Israel....go looky in the U S State Dept.

Quite frankly you can use the same speech for the Saudi Royal Family who govern in their own right.

Many other countries as well.

My question is this. How did this guy get to make the speech. Who supports him.

P

originally posted by: pheonix358
Quite frankly you can use the same speech for the Saudi Royal Family who govern in their own right.

Many other countries as well.

My question is this. How did this guy get to make the speech. Who supports him.

P

A valid statement and question. Yet no matter who and how, I'd start a memorial fund for his family right freaking now!

a reply to: nwtrucker

He's obviously a paid stooge. Don't be so naive to say, "I, for one, believe him completely".

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: nwtrucker

He's obviously a paid stooge. Don't be so naive to say, "I, for one, believe him completely".

Not so obvious, sir. In fact, the rest of that council is more likely the paid stooges. It is not uncommon knowledge, at least in the U.S., that the U.N. is the greatest collection of paid 'stooges' in the history of the world.

"Someone" knows the truth concerning the PLO.

Israel cannot be trusted inside or outside the US.

Too many Jewish within the US want the US to backup Israel come hell or highwater. Our government is receiving something from Israel to continue this charade of gamesmanship and lies.

Those within know the truth of true Israeli endgames but are too afraid to come forward-Israelis can be cruel beyond belief and America follows.

As long as the complicated ties between the middle east, America, and Israel continue unabated and hidden, there will be no end to the lies, pain, death and conflict.

originally posted by: Justso
"Someone" knows the truth concerning the PLO.

Israel cannot be trusted inside or outside the US.

Too many Jewish within the US want the US to backup Israel come hell or highwater. Our government is receiving something from Israel to continue this charade of gamesmanship and lies.

Those within know the truth of true Israeli endgames but are too afraid to come forward-Israelis can be cruel beyond belief and America follows.

As long as the complicated ties between the middle east, America, and Israel continue unabated and hidden, there will be no end to the lies, pain, death and conflict.

If you looked a little deeper, you'd be aware of the fact that being 'Jewish' is not an automatic rubber stamp for Israel. In fact, IIRC, 85% consider themselves Democrats. From my personal experience, the majority of the educated Jewish community are Globalist, Socialists, Pro-U.N. and anti-Israel. That includes those still remaining in the swamp, I might add.

There is one fact that I can attest to and that is that Jews are NOT politically monolithic any more than Americans are.

Your post is furtherance of the disinformation the speaker refers to. Again, only my opinion.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: nwtrucker

I, for one, believe him completely

Why? There must be a reason other than you wanting to believe it.

I don't claim he's right or wrong, I just don't believe anything someone says. I'm open to the idea though, but I don't think Israel is innocent in the slightest as I'm sure Palestine isn't either.

I recently met a Palestinian fellah, first one I ever talked to.

When I asked him about the medias version of events between Israel and Palestine he told me it is greatly exaggerated, the media sells us severe pain and sufferings in Palestine caused by Israel, this guy is back and forth from there , has his extended family there and according to him its mostly bull#.

I'm not sure that I completely believe him, it sure has caused me to be a whole lot more skeptical about what is really going on there.

If you believe being Jewish is not being Israeli or pro-Israeli, you might be trying a little too hard to be politically correct.

Granted, an opinion. I have known Jews (half my family) and Palestinians and spoken to those who experienced the 7-day war. I was in Israel 2 days after the that "war."

Yes, it is my "opinion." And yes, I am old but I was young then.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: nwtrucker

I, for one, believe him completely

Why? There must be a reason other than you wanting to believe it.

I don't claim he's right or wrong, I just don't believe anything someone says. I'm open to the idea though, but I don't think Israel is innocent in the slightest as I'm sure Palestine isn't either.

Well he was hot af. Maybe that's what did it for the OP?

Aside from that, I'd like to see a fact-check going on for this guy as far as who he actually is and his history because he sounded like a plant (and yes, I just sounded like leftist version of Xuenchen there).

I know Palestine has some nasty elements to it but it's certainly not one-sided like this guy makes it sound.

originally posted by: Justso
If you believe being Jewish is not being Israeli or pro-Israeli, you might be trying a little too hard to be politically correct.

Granted, an opinion. I have known Jews (half my family) and Palestinians and spoken to those who experienced the 7-day war. I was in Israel 2 days after the that "war."

Yes, it is my "opinion." And yes, I am old but I was young then.

Yes, I'm old too. Sorry, then what you have is Jews saying not being Pro-Israel means they're not 'really' Jews.

Even in the early days of the Soviet Union...well the 1930's anyway, many 'Jews' worked for and were leaders in the various Intelligence groups undermining the west. One may say then they weren't 'really' Jews....however. We goyens will generalize, of course.

Finally, I have NEVER met more mule-assed stubborn SOBs in my life. They will argue anything and that includes politics. Jews are not monolithic in the slightest. Yet again, JMO....

So, he's saying the PLO is a self interested ruling class using Israel as a tool to further it's own power to the detriment of it's people? Sounds about right... give or take an atrocity or three.

Unfortunately, the same thing (minus Israel sometimes) could be said about most powerful governments in the world.. .since forever.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: nwtrucker

I, for one, believe him completely

Why? There must be a reason other than you wanting to believe it.

I don't claim he's right or wrong, I just don't believe anything someone says. I'm open to the idea though, but I don't think Israel is innocent in the slightest as I'm sure Palestine isn't either.

Well he was hot af. Maybe that's what did it for the OP?

Aside from that, I'd like to see a fact-check going on for this guy as far as who he actually is and his history because he sounded like a plant (and yes, I just sounded like leftist version of Xuenchen there).

I know Palestine has some nasty elements to it but it's certainly not one-sided like this guy makes it sound.

I can understand wanting to fact check this guy. Especially if one has bought into the rhetoric that is prevalent regarding Israel.

Too bad no one 'fact checks' those in the U.N. who despise Israel.....

The guy was right to call out the PLO with the truth. Israel's leaders do enough wrong stuff, blaming them for things they did not do is wrong.

I don't care much for the PLO, I do think Palestine and Israel should try to get along more though, if only the PLO was gone.