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Its official: China's J-20 is officially in active military service

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posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 11:39 PM
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It is likely under U.S. testing as we speak.
U.S. materials specialists are probably studying the skin already.

Not that I know anything as fact here....nope, no disclosures from me. Just supposition and hypotheses based upon current knowledge of certain recent resource deployments.

Nothing to see here....move along......




posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 11:42 PM
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a reply to: anzha

It may be used as an interceptor, but the big mission is almost certainly going to be in the anti-support role. It's the perfect platform to be the sensor for the new VLRAAM that the J-16 carries.



posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 11:43 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

Except that at this point all the airframes are closely monitored. There aren't enough of them for there to be one missing, and them not have moved heaven and earth to find if it had "crashed". And no other users that we could get it through.



posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 11:44 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Krakatoa

Except that at this point all the airframes are closely monitored. There aren't enough of them for there to be one missing, and them not have moved heaven and earth to find if it had "crashed". And no other users that we could get it through.





posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 11:48 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

As nice as it would be to have one, there's no way that we could have one right now. Believe me, I'd love to see us have one flying over Nevada, but no way at this point. In a few years, maybe, but right now, no chance in hell.



posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 11:50 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Yup. Definitely not in Nevada for sure.



posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 11:52 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

Or anywhere else in the US. There are less than 30 currently. There's no way to get one, and it not be noticed that it went missing.

We might have been able to build a portion of one, or a small scale RCS model to get an idea of what the signature is, but there's no way that we have a full sized airframe from China.
edit on 9/29/2017 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 11:55 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

I agree, definitely not in the U.S. You are right.



posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

Ok, then let me make it even more clear.

The US and its allies do not have a J-20, anywhere in the world. You can't get your hands on an aircraft if there aren't enough of them for one to disappear somewhere. None of the J-20s have gone missing, and none have crashed. In every instance where we got our hands on one, it was the result of a "crash" and someone sold it to us, or it was one that they had retired from their service and sold to us. The J-20 is too new, and there are too few of them currently flying.



posted on Sep, 30 2017 @ 12:09 AM
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a reply to: anzha

You know what's funny about this though? This is the second time they announced that it entered service.

April 10, 2017


Reports say China put its stealth fighter — the J-20 — into service last month. The aircraft, built by the Chengdu Aerospace Corporation, is a twin-engine multi-role fighter that can reach speeds of 2,100 kilometers per hour. It’s believed the J-20 will have two primary missions. First, it could be deployed as a long range air-to-air fighter capable of engaging aircraft such as tankers and intelligence reconnaissance planes used by the United States. Secondly, the J-20 could be used to bypass air-defense systems and serve as a strike fighter to attack ships or destroy land-based targets such as communication facilities.

nationalinterest.org...

September 28, 2017


“China's latest J-20 stealth fighter has been officially commissioned into military service, according to Wu Qian, spokesperson for the Ministry of National Defense on Thursday,” reads a September 28 press release posted on the Chinese Ministry of National Defense website in conjunction with the official state news agency Xinhua.

nationalinterest.org...



posted on Sep, 30 2017 @ 12:23 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Yeah, funny that. It's almost like something happened over the summer months that warranted a re-release of the service claim.



posted on Sep, 30 2017 @ 12:37 AM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

March was Western news media reporting based on alleged Chinese military reports through Chinese media. It wasn't released through the Chinese government. This time it was an official release.



posted on Oct, 1 2017 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: Barnalby
a reply to: Zaphod58

It seems like the J-20 could be early F-22 levels of stealthy from the frontal aspects (I guess the DSI's and the canards will cancel out in terms of RCS), while its low-observable performance from the rear could likely be even worse than the Su-57.


I think it's mission is mostly as interceptor, not fighter. Go up to high altitude & speed, fling very long range air-breathing missiles (a2a cruise missiles essentially) at non-stealthy 4-engine tankers, jstars & awacs. It will be far away from all the action.

Then again, everything vs India, Taiwan, VIetnam, ROK, etc.



posted on Oct, 1 2017 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: mbkennel

It's the sensor for the VLRAAM. The missile itself is too big for the weapons bay on the J-20. It's carried by a J-16.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 12:52 PM
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A J-20 has been spotted with WS-10 engines.

china-defense.blogspot.com...



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: anzha

Thank you CFM.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

CFM? blanking this second and when you write it, I'll feel like an idiot, but...



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: anzha

GE/Snecma alliance. They sold two CFM56 engines to China, based on the F101 used in the B-1 in the early 80s before the arms embargo kicked in.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

thrust/weight ratio appears to be about .9 if the specs for the WS-10G are right and the mass of the J-20 is roughly right.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: anzha

That sounds about right for something along these lines.




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