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Originally posted by SMR
I'll have a look over at what GOLDEN CHILD has put in his brilliant post later on.
Who wants to to take a wild guess? I got dibbs saying he is 15
Originally posted by Goldenshellback
PS
Those who cry cover up, shut up! You believe what you want, maggots. Cause I leave this final time to your inner thoughts of paranioa and sweet dreams. Veterans do it better and smarter with down to earth common sense. Liberals makes me sick!
Originally posted by truthseeka
Did anyone miss that insane blaze in that building in Madrid last weekend??? That thing was lit up like a Christmas tree, yet it NEVER collapsed!!!!
Originally posted by truthseeka
Man, I don't know jack about physics, but I do have common sense.
Even if these fires were so hot in the North and South Towers (which they weren't), how is structural damage to the upper floors going to cause the entire building to collapse???
Originally posted by SMR
Seeing as you said you were never coming back, twice,,,,,see ya in a couple days
So now you resort to name calling because a few people have different opinions than you.brilliant Too bad you dont really stay away
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I'll have a look over at what GOLDEN CHILD has put in his brilliant post later on.
Who wants to to take a wild guess? I got dibbs saying he is 15
Originally posted by ANOK
Originally posted by SMR
I'll have a look over at what GOLDEN CHILD has put in his brilliant post later on.
Who wants to to take a wild guess? I got dibbs saying he is 15
Not trying to stick up for him but with a name like that I would guess he was in the Navy...
A shellback is someone who crosses the equator, with Neptunus Rex and his royal court. A Golden Shellback is someone who has crossed the equator at the 180th meridian (12hrs ahead of GMT where day and night starts).
But that's not classified info so I could be wrong...
Originally posted by SMR
Seeing as you said you were never coming back, twice,,,,,see ya in a couple days
So now you resort to name calling because a few people have different opinions than you.brilliant Too bad you dont really stay away
HOWARD:
I believe I made a post to a similar reply,will look in the other threads for it.Cant be too hard can it Only like 50 gazillion 9/11 threads hahaha
I'll have a look over at what GOLDEN CHILD has put in his brilliant post later on.
Who wants to to take a wild guess? I got dibbs saying he is 15
Originally posted by truthseeka
Well, Howard, thanks for setting me straight.
I bet you believe that diagram of the WTC buildings the BBC put out. You know, the one that cunningly depicted the core as being composed of 4 steel columns and CONCRETE.
Originally posted by truthseeka
They also talk about asbestos being in the building; they said that there was a substantial amount of asbestos in the building, which is true.
Originally posted by truthseeka
What's false is that this was an accurate depiction of the core. The core actually had NUMEROUS concrete-and-steel structures all combining to make a solid core. You didn't think a simple core would suffice in these buildings, did you?
Also unique to the engineering design were its core and elevator system. The twin towers were the first supertall buildings designed without any masonry. Worried that the intense air pressure created by the buildings’ high speed elevators might buckle conventional shafts, engineers designed a solution using a drywall system fixed to the reinforced steel core. For the elevators, to serve 110 stories with a traditional configuration would have required half the area of the lower stories be used for shaftways. Otis Elevators developed an express and local system, whereby passengers would change at "sky lobbies" on the 44th and 78th floors, halving the number of shaftways.
Originally posted by truthseeka
Maybe I am stupid. Please explain to me how a 110-story building (no, make that 2) can fall from being damaged in the UPPER QUARTER!! If it was the lower quarter it might have been believable, but the upper quarter??? Wait, that doesn't make sense, does it???
Originally posted by truthseeka
You still didn't address the fact that this was the FIRST time that a steel building has collapsed from fire. Why not??? Is it because there's NO way that jet or diesel fuel can burn hot enough to melt that much steel? As for the jet fuel, how can you explain its impact on the second collision? Oh, did you miss that huge fireball after the plane hit? That was the jet fuel exploding OUTSIDE of the building.
Originally posted by truthseeka
How come engineers, architects, etc. were unconcerned that this was the FIRST time that a steel building has collapsed from fire alone? I know why, it's because anyone that knows better has been told to shut up.
Originally posted by truthseeka
Look, Howard, you and the other "debunkers" deny what others and I say, but consider this. Larry Silverstein, the owner of the ENTIRE WTC complex, ADMITTED that they "pulled" building 7. You know, the one that "mysteriously" fell after NO airplane hit it??? He admitted this. The firefighters told reporters to get back because they were going to pull it.
Originally posted by truthseeka
Tell me, how do you go inside of a burning building (that damn diesel fuel, it'll burn you like hellfire), plant explosives at strategic positions, and THEN bring down the building in a demolition while the public ignorantly believes it was the "terrorists??" Explain that one, Howard.
Originally posted by truthseeka
Boy, where do I start, Howard??
30 floors can overtake 80 floors? Inertia just took over? Yeah, I know, you're right. Makes sense that these buildings would be designed to collapse if only a small portion of them were damaged.
Originally posted by truthseeka
I love how you called me ignorant and stupid without providing any "enlightened" thoughts on the whole fuel fire thing.
Originally posted by truthseeka
Why don't you type in "jet fuel fire temperature" at Google? Better yet, consider the temp at which diesel fuel combusts, a mere 350 degrees Fahrenheit. I can't find the temp for jet fuel, but when I will, I'll post it.
Originally posted by truthseeka
I don't know why I'm considering this anyway when most of it combusted outside of the building. Again, you missed the invisible fireball.
Originally posted by truthseeka
According to who you ask, steel melts at 2500-2800 degrees Fahrenheit, either way a long ways from diesel or jet fuel.
But hey, those fires were that hot, weren't they? That's why all you saw was smoke in the buildings, right? The fire in the Madrid building, a blazing inferno, wasn't hotter than those at the WTC buildings, right??
The eyewitnesses from the towers who talked about walking around AFTER experiencing heat in the building for a FEW MINUTES are nuts, too, huh? How can anyone walk around in a building where fires are raging at temperatures over 2500 degrees Fahrenheit? Looks like they should have auditioned for the part of the human torch in the Fantastic 4.
Originally posted by HowardRoark
With all of the cameras and microphones trained on the buildings when they fell, how come not one of them picked up the sounds of the explosives?
Oh, that's right, the NWO used "hushaboom."
Second, did anyone see that 37 story building in Madrid, just a few weekends ago burn? Damn thing burned for 24 hours with whitehot flame gutting the building. Did its structure fail from heat? Do you think it was built better than a 110 story skyscraper?
Originally posted by Skibum
Second, did anyone see that 37 story building in Madrid, just a few weekends ago burn? Damn thing burned for 24 hours with whitehot flame gutting the building. Did its structure fail from heat? Do you think it was built better than a 110 story skyscraper?
Just to point out the obvious. the skyscraper in Madrid was not severely damaged by an airplane flying at top speed before it caught fire.