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You could always get a piece of wood and try your own experiment, or get hold of a wheat stem instead of continually making assumptions. Ever been in a field of wheat?
I'm trying to ascertain the process which would be used to ensure that snapping doesn't happen at all.
Sure, but is what you say coming from the human angle or the extraterrestrial one?
Because if you stomp wheat with a board you're going to snap some of it at some point, no matter how moisturised it is.
I don't see that it becomes effectively and exclusively elastic for a few hours a night, and that boarders get lucky by sometimes snapping it all and sometimes snapping nothing at all, purely because of moisture levels. As far as I'm aware (correct me if I'm wrong) there are no known ways to bend crop without breaking it.
originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: markymint
I'm trying to ascertain the process which would be used to ensure that snapping doesn't happen at all.
Can you or anyone actually prove that snapping doesn't happen?
I have seen the research and know where you coming from.
I have seen the sampling of the stems the alleged tests done.
Its implied that the whole circle is like this, all stems bent and not broken.
Is this claim done by sampling stems and using the samples to create a statistic or actually by checking the 10s of thousands stems?
Sure, but is what you say coming from the human angle or the extraterrestrial one?
WTF
Yeah I have spoken to Jesus and ET on the net before as well, however, not sure how I give the impression that I would post from an ET perspective.
Because if you stomp wheat with a board you're going to snap some of it at some point, no matter how moisturised it is.
just thinking out aloud
could there be other ways, newer and improved techniques that aren't as widely known unless you are an actual circle maker?
Maybe there is no stomping involved, maybe there is a gentle way to manipulate the crops and also less time consuming than how its widely known that crop circles are made.
I don't see that it becomes effectively and exclusively elastic for a few hours a night, and that boarders get lucky by sometimes snapping it all and sometimes snapping nothing at all, purely because of moisture levels. As far as I'm aware (correct me if I'm wrong) there are no known ways to bend crop without breaking it.
effectively and exclusively elastic at night for a few hours?
do you live on earth?
I mentioned every night the temp and what not to be different, just because it becomes day time doesn't mean that the ever changing atmosphere stops changing because its day time.
Moist crops would be ideal to create this bent stem.
there is a lot of planning involved in making the circles,
Could one of the steps of planning be..... observing the weather and condition and choosing a location based on that.
Things work out, crop circles are made with bent and not broken stems.
Other times, The predicted condition of the weather were not correct or there was a unexpected change which made the atmosphere drier than what was expected.
Some circles have bent crops other have broken.
Matthew Williams, 30, of Devizes, Wiltshire, was fined £100 by magistrates in November 2000 after admitting damaging a farmer's crops near Marlborough, Wiltshire.
He successfully proved it was possible to create a seven-pointed star, but was prosecuted after publishing the results on the internet.
Matthew Williams: I suppose in an ironic sense it’s slightly funny to look at my situation as being that I’m hated by the people who believe crop circles are made by aliens and they say well, people can’t make them.
So I’m hated by those guys. But then the skeptics who would like to say, oh look, Matt Williams is saying they’re made by people and he can prove it so therefore everyone who believes in that is crap. And then when they dig beneath the surface they find out actually I believe in the paranormal and I believe in these things which doesn’t go with some sort of hardcore skeptics.
So I’m hated from both directions really. So that’s kind of ironic. My whole time involved in paranormal research has told me there is definitely something else going on. There are ghosts. There are UFOs that people see. People have strange experiences that can’t be explained in their lives. I came into this as more of a skeptic than people would think, and I had experiences which told me there was something going on.
Then hanging around in Wiltshire looking at the crop circles I got drawn into making them to kind of test the waters; to kind of see what people would think about this. And I had the strangest thing happen to me that I literally didn’t expect, which was that paranormal things started happening because we were making the crop circles.
This is the hardest thing to get across to both camps because the skeptic side, they just want to say it’s humans isn’t it? So therefore, case closed. And I’ve always been telling people, no, the fact that humans make them is not case closed because unfortunately or fortunately, whichever way you want to look at it, we’re having strange experiences. The people who visit the circles afterwards are having strange experiences.
How do you explain the bulging nodes allegedly done by heat?
originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw
How do you explain the bulging nodes allegedly done by heat?
I was going to add a process of adding heat to the moist stems to make them even more bendable in that little scenario or attempted explanation because I remember something about traces heat radiation being found in crops that were analyzed and what not.
Adding heat to a moist will do the obvious thing and dry the moisture, however the moisture when heated makes the stem even more malleable I think its heat that allows the water or moisture to be absorbed quicker due to how the molecules of water act when its cold or hot.
How do I explain the bulging nodes done by heat?
if they are done by heat then simply add heat to the process would do the trick.
Are you asking what method would used to add heat?
If so, off the top of my head I cannot answer and would have to think more about it or actually research what would a viable tool or process circle makers could use to add heat to moist stems.