New Study - Transgender myth exposed - a mental disorder.

originally posted by: GTBighair
a reply to: kaylaluv

no matter how you slice it...

sodomites are doomed...

Trans and homosexuality is a neural abnormality that is wired more like the opposite sex as the person who is born.

Design flaw

If a deity, your god, created humans with the wiring to force them to sin, then your deity is imperfect
And that deity deserves no praise...that deity is to be mocked.

Luckily the universe isn't designed like that, and such a small god doesn't exist simply from the sheer absurdity of it.

But lets say you're right...lets say they are doomed upon death.
Then why not just let them be in life..enjoy what years they have being honest with themselves. I imagine you can't, because its in your interest to reinforce your barbaric blood gods demand on hetronormality even if it goes against the biological wiring...after all, its in your book of man

Religion is dying in the west.

good riddance...personal connection and spirituality will take its place and small gods will no longer be welcomed back into the discussion.

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
The fiction that a person can chose their gender does not help those who are confused. Now that is a powerful statement. How many times have you read or heard of transgenders who are/were confused?

Gender reassignment is one of the most successful surgeries available. Some do come to regret, but very very few.

And it is a fiction that people 'choose' their gender. You're beating your own a strawman to death.

There is evidence of both genetic and environmental influences in gender identity disorder. Indeed, it's found in most cultures across the world. From two-sprit peoples in Native American to Hijra in Indian cultures.

Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that transgenderism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that sex change is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder.

Dr. McHugh, the author of six books and at least 125 peer-reviewed medical articles, made his remarks in a recent commentary in the Wall Street Journal, where he explained that transgender surgery is not the solution for people who suffer a “disorder of ‘assumption’” – the notion that their maleness or femaleness is different than what nature assigned to them biologically.

This isn't a study. Just an opinion. He's every right to hold it, of course.

He also reported on a new study showing that the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people. Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”

Yes, gender dysphoria doesn't always develop into GID.

What about the other 20-30%? Do we ignore them?

The rate of suicide attempts in those with GID is around 50% before treatment. Sounds like it's a dreadful condition. A recent study in Lancet Psychiatry showed that most of their mental distress is due to social isolation and bullying/violence.

Do you think people like you help?

their maleness or femaleness, as assigned by nature. It is a disorder similar to a “dangerously thin” person suffering anorexia who looks in the mirror and thinks they are “overweight,” said McHugh.

haha. How many 4 year old's do you know who are anorexic? Gender dysphoria can be found in 3/4 year old kids. Gender identity is a little different than physical mass D:

McHugh seems to be conflating sex and gender. You'd think such an objective 'expert' would know the difference.

And look how some states not only support these confused people but have passed laws to make them more comfortable and open to their mental disease. This is nothing more than perversion.

Charming. Given it's only 50 years or so since Homosexuality was removed from the DSM, guess GID is the new frontier. Does it bother you that much? haha

As for the second genetics study, says nothing about GID. Just genetic sexual dimorphism. Did you know that those with GID tend to show gender-cognruent differentiation in a specific area of the brain (hypothalamus) that underpins sexual dimorphism? Probably a little more interesting than any found in the liver. That's just one of many such studies showing gender-congruent features and behaviours (e.g., spatial tasks, 2D:4D etc).

What's next...? Live sex acts on the school bus or in the school library? Maybe transgender coloring books for children under 8 years old to reinforce that transgender is OK and the norm?

Jeez - you make quite a leap from a John and Jane book explaining gender diversity to Live Porn on School buses.

Calm down - you may have a stroke, lol.

Everyone knows it's a psychological disorder that's become normalized due to the pressure of political correctness.

originally posted by: IHateLibs
Everyone knows it's a psychological disorder that's become normalized due to the pressure of political correctness.

Really? Everyone knows, do they? Do you have a cite for that? Or are you basing it on what YOU "know".

originally posted by: GTBighair
a reply to: kaylaluv

no matter how you slice it...

sodomites are doomed...

not so much in society...

but definitely in the hereafter...

most people under the age of sixty don't seemed to have a problem with this delusional reality sexual deviants have created...

but sooner or latter we all face our own mortality...

recompense, an eternity of regret...

if mankind thinks they will get away with ignoring God your creator's wishes...

there will be HELL to pay...

literally!

yep and Amen.

Your god appears to hate a lot.
I wonder how much is projection?

Let people be who they want to be as long as they harm nobody....

Religion can also lead to mental disorders among with many other things. Yet everyone can live they way he wants to.

So as long as trans people are happier like that, let them be, why you want them to suffer just because you don't like their way?

Since when respecting other's freedom is something bad?

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
The fiction that a person can chose their gender does not help those who are confused. Now that is a powerful statement. How many times have you read or heard of transgenders who are/were confused?

Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that transgenderism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that sex change is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder.

Dr. McHugh, the author of six books and at least 125 peer-reviewed medical articles, made his remarks in a recent commentary in the Wall Street Journal, where he explained that transgender surgery is not the solution for people who suffer a “disorder of ‘assumption’” – the notion that their maleness or femaleness is different than what nature assigned to them biologically.

He also reported on a new study showing that the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people. Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”

While the Obama administration, Hollywood, and major media such as Time magazine promote transgenderism as normal, said Dr. McHugh, these “policy makers and the media are doing no favors either to the public or the transgendered by treating their confusions as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder that deserves understanding, treatment and prevention.”

Time magazine, June 9, 2014, cover story, The Transgender Tipping Point: America's Next Civil Rights Frontier. “This intensely felt sense of being transgendered constitutes a mental disorder in two respects. The first is that the idea of sex misalignment is simply mistaken – it does not correspond with physical reality. The second is that it can lead to grim psychological outcomes.” The transgendered person’s disorder, said Dr. McHugh, is in the person’s “assumption” that they are different than the physical reality of their body, their maleness or femaleness, as assigned by nature. It is a disorder similar to a “dangerously thin” person suffering anorexia who looks in the mirror and thinks they are “overweight,” said McHugh.

This assumption, that one’s gender is only in the mind regardless of anatomical reality, has led some transgendered people to push for social acceptance and affirmation of their own subjective “personal truth,” said Dr. McHugh. As a result, some states – California, New Jersey, and Massachusetts – have passed laws barring psychiatrists, “even with parental permission, from striving to restore natural gender feelings to a transgender minor,” he said. The pro-transgender advocates do not want to know, said McHugh, that studies show between 70% and 80% of children who express transgender feelings “spontaneously lose those feelings” over time.

Also, for those who had sexual reassignment surgery, most said they were “satisfied” with the operation “but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn’t have the surgery.” Pro-transgender activists. The Obama administration announced in May that Medicare will now cover transgender surgical procedures. “And so at Hopkins we stopped doing sex-reassignment surgery, since producing a ‘satisfied’ but still troubled patient seemed an inadequate reason for surgically amputating normal organs,” said Dr. McHugh.

The former Johns Hopkins chief of psychiatry also warned against enabling or encouraging certain subgroups of the transgendered, such as young people “susceptible to suggestion from ‘everything is normal’ sex education,” and the schools’ “diversity counselors” who, like “cult leaders,” may “encourage these young people to distance themselves from their families and offer advice on rebutting arguments against having transgender surgery.” Dr. McHugh also reported that there are “misguided doctors” who, working with very young children who seem to imitate the opposite sex, will administer “puberty-delaying hormones to render later sex-change surgeries less onerous – even though the drugs stunt the children’s growth and risk causing sterility.” Such action comes “close to child abuse,” said Dr. McHugh, given that close to 80% of those kids will “abandon their confusion and grow naturally into adult life if untreated ….” “’Sex change’ is biologically impossible,” said McHugh. “People who undergo sex-reassignment surgery do not change from men to women or vice versa. Rather, they become feminized men or masculinized women. Claiming that this is civil-rights matter and encouraging surgical intervention is in reality to collaborate with and promote a mental disorder.”

LINK

And look how some states not only support these confused people but have passed laws to make them more comfortable and open to their mental disease. This is nothing more than perversion.

Want to thank you for making this thread, more people need to be aware of whats happening in our society. It's like an awakening for many.

a reply to: IHateLibs

Really?

Despite opinions and studies that indicate otherwise? Everyone knows. Odd how that mirrors your opinion and not those who disagree--aren't they part of "everyone"?

Why are some people, I mean "everyone", so threatened by this? Is "everyone" so insecure in their own skins that we all have to be just like "everyone" else?

a reply to: seagull

Is "everyone" so insecure in their own skins that we all have to be just like "everyone" else?

Quit making things up, nobody said we all have to be like 'everyone else'.

The DSM-5 changed the listing of transgender to "gender dysphoria" in 2013 (though it remains classified as a mental illness today).

We don't need social engineering in our classrooms telling little boys and girls it's ok if they want to change sex's, they are to young to understand.

a reply to: Dr1Akula

Let people be who they want to be as long as they harm nobody....

Leave our children out of it. The agenda has gone to far, I don't care if adults want to mutilate themselves, but leave the children alone.

originally posted by: Konduit
Doesn't the B in LGBT prove that there are only two genders?

How can Sex-Migration be a mental disorder, if the issue is so popular in the news and on ATS?

a reply to: Dr1Akula

Right! Mental disorders affect more than 50% of the entire population. Name a group, and you'll find some members of that group with mental disorders.

a reply to: SaturnFX

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: BlackManGod

If the above link is not convincing enough, herein lies the ultimate "proof" that LGBT or whatever boils down to a matter personal preference of "adults" (as opposed to what children normalize from what they're exposed to). To me, it's just another form of hedonism: pleasure for pleasure's sake (whether mental/emotional from being hurt by opposite sex).

As for Ultimate Proof? homosexuals cannot reproduce. They need opposite sex to procreate. If it was "natural" our biology and genetics would accommodate it. Thus, they must adopt or inseminate. If you isolate all gay females with all the amenities of life in one place, and isolate all gay males with the same in another, what would happen? Nature would extinguish that experiment naturally. Unable to reproduce on their own, they would die off. Period. As part of the planet, and whether you believe in evolution, big bang, or whatever, biological life knows what to do and how to do it to maintain its existence. Biological life made Man & Woman to reproduce itself. If that wasn't so, we'd all be asexual with that ability.

I always found it funny that gay females uses phallic "toys'. If only a female can satisfy a female, then why simulate a man's organ? As for gay males, pretty much the same, using their anus in place of the vagina they naturally don't have. I mean, really, the anus is an exit for bodily waste, not an entrance. You can't put anything in there that the body won't naturally try to push back out. It's just a simple fact of reality and naturally immutable. If after thousands of years gay activity nature has yet to accommodate homosexuality by making any biological change, then... as the link above refers to, it must be done artificially via chemicals. (And even then, the change is towards the complete transformation to the singular sex. e.g. frog/fish/mammal transformations.)

Again, all this is simply a matter of choice, desire, self-pleasure since the Greeks made it popular long ago. Everyone/civilization knew it was wrong and unnatural... until today, where literally "anything goes." So, I say, to each his or her own, at his or her peril and self-destruction. Only sad and detrimental thing about it all is that children will be misled to suffer the same fate.

Common sense is not so common. I'm sure this argument was presented before, I would think, since it's so academic, and a no-brainer.
Oh, well...

a reply to: BlackManGod

Your a real scholar. Glad you were able to really clear it up with your scientific analysis.

Eta at least you did preference this as your own personal conjecture.

natural /= good or right

That said a significant percent of homosexuals can be favored in a social species if they help kin that does reproduce. There are species such as many eusocial insects where born sterile workers support the reproducing queen.

That said, technology will enable reproduction of homosexuals between themselves eventually. Technology too can eventually correct all genetic defects, making all forms of reproduction viable including repeated cloning.

a reply to: BlackManGod

Some validity to your post. There is indeed a "natural" order for life to sustain.

What happens when you have beyond plenty of "normal" people to ensure that sustaining? Does it imply that all must be a part of that particular section of the specie's sustaining (reproduction), disregarding that gays and or trans people may help the sustaining of the species in other ways (food industry, medical professions, etc)?

Furthermore, what about chimeras? Albeit rare, what about that person who is, genetically, a combination of twins, a brother and sister? Even more so, what if this person, who is physically and biologically a male, has chimerism, and his brain cells are genetically XX, the DNA of the twin sister?

Mind blown yet?

Surely that person should be shunned and burned at the stake for not being today's definition of normal, which, by the way, said definition is always in flux.

Sometimes....sometimes...i really think the majority, self described "normal" crowd, are unknowingly supporting a certain insanity, a hate filled agenda to eliminate diversity and create an entirely homogenized race of humans...or whatever we would be at that point.

Not to say that a homogenized species is bad...but they sure as # would be if they see diversity as something that needs to be eradicated.

Hint hint.

Really ATS? I'm trans. They got me Jim!! I'm part of the giant conspiracy collective now.

Have you heard of "Body Integrity Identity Disorder"?

nypost.com...


It's a condition that motivates a person to cut off a healthy limb, and make them self an amputee. It would be really hard to question the sincerity of their feelings, given the terrible sacrifice they make.

And who am I to tell them they can't cut off their own limb if they want to? Who else are they hurting?



Anyway, I don't disagree that probably trans-gender people have a similar disorder. But so what? Let them have it, and let them do whatever will help them be happy.

These kinds of disorders usually aren't curable. But they are treatable, or at least it is possible to make the victim of the disorder comfortable. Any pain you want them to suffer to satisfy your own ideals is.... well..... it would be pretty narcissistic to expect them to suffer for your pride.