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originally posted by: Christosterone
Let's see...
The Judeo Christian gave rise to a culture so extraordinary they walked on the moon and split the atom...
Islam gave rise to a people who worship a dude who banged an 8 year old...
One thing is not like the other...
-Chris

The word "algebra" is derived from the Arabic word الجبر al-jabr, and this comes from the treatise written in the year 830 by the medieval Persian mathematician, Muhammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī, whose Arabic title, Kitāb al-muḫtaṣar fī ḥisāb al-ğabr wa-l-muqābala, can be translated as The Compendious Book on Calculation ...
Islamic astronomy comprises the astronomicaldevelopments made in the Islamic world, particularly during the Islamic Golden Age (9th–13th centuries),[1] and mostly written in theArabic language. These developments mostly took place in the Middle East, Central Asia, Al-Andalus, and North Africa, and later in the Far East and India. It closely parallels the genesis of other Islamic sciences in its assimilation of foreign material and the amalgamation of the disparate elements of that material to create a science with Islamic characteristics. These included Greek, Sassanid, and Indian works in particular, which were translated and built upon.[2]
Islamic astronomy played a significant role in the revival of Byzantine[3] and European[4] astronomy following the loss of knowledge during the early medieval period, notably with the production ofLatin translations of Arabic works during the 12th century. Islamic astronomy also had an influence on Chinese astronomy[5] and Malian astronomy.[6][7]
A significant number of stars in the sky, such asAldebaran, Altair and Deneb, and astronomical terms such as alidade, azimuth, and nadir, are still referred to by their Arabic names.[8][9] A large corpus of literature from Islamic astronomy remains today, numbering approximately 10,000 manuscripts scattered throughout the world, many of which have not been read or catalogued. Even so, a reasonably accurate picture of Islamic activity in the field of astronomy can be reconstructed.[10]
I am not chopping out any parts of the Quran. Many followers of Mohammed disagree with the Hadiths, which is where false interpretation of the Quran are found.
The Hadiths and the Talmud are corruptions of the word of God.
I believe what Mohammed clearly stated in the Quran. The Old Testament, the New Testament and Quran are all the preserved incorruptible words of God.
Any "History" that suggests Mohammed was anything less than a Holy Man who was defending himself against Jewish and Catholic persecution was likely written by Jewish and Catholic historians who wanted to taint the life and teaching of the prophet Mohammed.
I believe Jesus Christ and the Gospels, and I believe Mohammad who said both the Jews and Christian follow incorrect interpretations of their scriptures.
I am not a Jew, a Christian or a Muslim. I am all because Christ is all and in all.
You condemn what you do not understand.
1 John 2:22-2
22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. 24 Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father.
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Matthew 7:15King James Version (KJV)
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
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What a bold ignorant uneducated response. Where do you think Algebra comes from?
Aside from your Ignorant statements here and trying to spread falsehood. What's YOUR contribution to humanity?
Genesis 16:12King James Version (KJV)
12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
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originally posted by: gps777
a reply to: Annee
You need to reread my post and also watch the video, Aisha was prepubescent. At 51/2 and 8 at consummation. Something that was forbidden, aside with Mohamad beating Aisha and allowing Mohamad's followers to severely and extremely beat their wives or kill them.
Your only right with the OT and NT which have been proven over and over again and backed up by the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Quran is proven to be put together and parts written up to 300 years after Mohamad's death, let alone what's written within it.
This is a lie. The quran was being scribed as it was being revealed to Muhammad. He constantly had scribes around him.
Can't say the same for thr gospels can we ? They were written what 70 to 80 years after the death of Jesus?
Jesus' ministry was from A.D. 27-30. Noted New Testament scholar, F.F. Bruce, gives strong evidence that the New Testament was completed by A.D. 100.3 Most writings of the New Testament works were completed twenty to forty years before this. The Gospels are dated traditionally as follows: Mark is believed to be the first gospel written around A.D. 60. Matthew and Luke follow and are written between A.D. 60-70; John is the final gospel, written between A.D. 90-100.
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But I guess the earth is flat, the earth is set up on 4 pillars and the entire universe and all life was created in 6 days according to the bible.
It should be obvious that some of the verses in the Quran are not to be taken littleraly just like some of the verses in the bible.
Your arguments against Mohammed and the Quran prove you have swallowed the coolaid at church and have no idea what you are talking about in terms of Islam. You don't appear to be able to be objective or discern the truth for yourself.
It is true that after Mohammad's death corrupt rulers justified wars and unjust acts in the name of Allah. However the exact same history can be said about both the Jews and Christians.
When the Jews and Christians kill in the name of God we should assume they were not really following Moses and Jesus. But when Muslims kill in the name of God it must be Mohammed's fault. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Mohammed is a prophet of God. The men who stand at the pulpit teaching original sin and ritual salvation are the false teachers following false prophets.
1 John 2:22-24English Standard Version (ESV)
22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. 24 Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father.
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You condemn what you do not understand.
Ephesians 6:12New King James Version (NKJV)
12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age,[a] against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
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originally posted by: gps777
a reply to: Kapusta
Laugh it up black stone worshiper, shaped to be a vagina that Muslims pray and bow toward and caress and kiss, who think it sucks out your sins, while Mohamad allowed for the severe beating of their wives.
So wrong on so so many levels.
At this point it doesn't matter if i present you with authentic text to refute everything you are saying. It is clear you have drank the cool aid as another member put it you are unwilling to meet on a level with this. God knows best and i hope to meet you some day in paradise may God forgive us both.
John 14:6King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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Rev1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
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16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
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25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”
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13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
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You just said God doesn't love you unless you believe the exact interpretation of a 2000 year old book that you believe.
John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Isaiah 53:4-5
4
Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5
But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
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Maybe you're the one who needs a change of heart and soul towards your brothers. You may want to do more loving your neighbor and less judging.
You will be judged by the same measure that you judge. Your judgment is based on fear not love.
I have no intention of pleading my case but the Quran never states Jesus is not the son of God. The Quran states God does not have children through intercourse with women. There is at least one interpretation of the Quran that correctly quoted Mohammed by saying Jesus is the son of God. The lies come from the Hadith where much corruption can be found.
Mohammed believed Jesus was the son of God, our Messiah. He didn't believe in Constantine' s priests interpretation, the Catholic church. Nothing contained in the Quran contradicts the bible.
You condemn what you do not understand.
originally posted by: gps777
originally posted by: Isurrender73
You just said God doesn't love you unless you believe the exact interpretation of a 2000 year old book that you believe.
Through Christ`s death on the cross as the sacrificial sinless lamb of God, our sins are paid for in full, to those who believe in Him. It was Christs purpose foretold to do. 600 years later your revolting pedophile mass murdering thieving deceitful demon possessed mad man said Christ didn`t die on the cross and rise defeating death three days later.
John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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From a REAL prophet of God, Isaiah 8th century before Christ, prophetically revealing what Christ will do for us all on the cross.
Isaiah 53:4-5
4
Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5
But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
www.biblegateway.com...
Your sicko false prophet says its all a lie.
JESUS (not "Christ"...Christ is a title, not His name (though His name was probably Yahshua, not Jesus). He didn't come to be a blood sacrifice. He came to "lay down His life for His friend's..and for the TRUTH". What TRUTH? The truth that the world did not know the MOST HIGH GOD....and it definitely wasn't Yahweh, Jehovah, or any other. When John 3:16 say's "for God so loved the world....that part about BELIEVING in Him, is not just about believing in Him. It's also about believing in what He TAUGHT. You are to busy listening to Pauline doctrine to actually HEAR and UNDERSTAND what Jesus taught. He didn't come to just give you a freebie pass to Heaven. He came to show us the character of the REAL GOD. Jesus wasn't "God in the flesh". He was indwelt by the Spirit of the true God. You fundies get it all mixed up. You think that Jesus WAS God, when He never claimed anything of the sort. In fact, He said to "do as He did" and "pray as He did"....to the same God (Father) that He prayed to.
No, Jesus came and broke the power that the false god, "Yahweh" had on the Israelites. That's why He was born into that race of people. He entered into the main stronghold that Yahweh had. Why do you think what He taught was so radical??
Funny how you guys make others to say the Shahada and it has to be Mohamad was his messenger lol. Not Isaiah, Jeramiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, no no it has to be that egotistical deluded sicko Mohamad and its a death sentence for apostasy if you wake up to the fact.
Maybe you're the one who needs a change of heart and soul towards your brothers. You may want to do more loving your neighbor and less judging.
My brothers and sisters are of Christ, never Mohamad.
Yea, it's that "us against them" mentality that drives people away from Christianity. Jesus wasn't a Christian, nor was He anything you can put a label on. He didn't come to start a new religion. He came for ONE reason, and one reason only....the TRUTH. Did He ever say He was a blood sacrifice for your sins? Nope. He said He was going to be turned over to "sinful men"....and that they were going to kill Him. Never, not ONCE, did He say He was your sacrifice.
You will be judged by the same measure that you judge. Your judgment is based on fear not love.
Yup, He sure did warn. The one who fits the bill more than anyone...and he's in your "holy, infallible, book"...is Saul of Tarsus, aka, Paul.
Mohammed believed Jesus was the son of God, our Messiah. He didn't believe in Constantine' s priests interpretation, the Catholic church. Nothing contained in the Quran contradicts the bible.
You condemn what you do not understand.
originally posted by: gps777
a reply to: Matrixsurvivor
Fix your mixed up post so at least its readable.
Your last sentence "Huh....show me how much more righteous Yahweh is than Allah."
Sure, Allah is Satan with a side by side Quranic verses with Biblical verses.
That's what I've been trying to do for the past 30 minutes. My computer is lagging. Typical. Love the "spirit of Christ" you think you have. I'm sure YOU can read what my responses were. Or are you hoping someone else can read them, too?