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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
So how does capitalism work at all in a time when you just don't need employees???
The same way it works now. If there is profit to be made the private sector will make it.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
We are on the precipice of what should be one of the greatest milestones in human history. Where we cross the line where the vast majority of societies labor is just not needed to power it.
This isn't a new concept, technology has constantly made it easier for less people to do more work. But now we are almost to the point where It only takes a fraction of our population to run it.
With our present capitalistic system, profit is the only goal, and period robots are more profitable than people....
No matter how low their wages..
Well Shouldn't the fact that humans are only needed for maybe 20% of the labor required to run society , be a good thing???
Shouldn't that give us the sci fi trope of a eutopian society of leisure and entertainment???
Shouldn't the fact we have the tech, know how and manpower to feed, cloth and house every human on the planet be a good thing???
So how does capitalism work at all in a time when you just don't need employees???
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: JoshuaCox
I have always been waiting for my 'George Jetson' workday, where I get home and the robot brings me the paper and takes my shoes off, while I complain to my wife that I had a hard day.... 'I had to push two buttons!'
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Basically your saying "I have no idea, but the free market is a magic pony that will save us!"
originally posted by: SpeakerofTruth
You think the monetary system is just going to disappear? How do you propose to account for the job loss automation will incur? No, I don't view it in a very positive light at all.
originally posted by: rickymouse
We need something to do. Automation is not giving us the needed exercise nor does it provide us with the satisfaction of seeing what we created. I like building things, I do not like buying them totally built. I built homes, I like to see some result of my labor. Where are we going to get the money to buy what automation builds, look at personal debt in this society, people and the government are going farther and farther into debt, because we don't make money the old fashioned way and also because robots and automation do not pay taxes.
originally posted by: SpeakerofTruth
a reply to: Edumakated
Technology in and of itself is a neutrality. However, when you have people who only care about their bottom line making the decisions about what is and what isn't in this society, then technology is turned into a very large problem for the common person
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Basically your saying "I have no idea, but the free market is a magic pony that will save us!"
That is not at all what I said. You fail to understand what capitalism is, it is solely the private control of industry. Someone will control these robotic workforces and as long as they are in the private sector it is capitalism.
originally posted by: SpeakerofTruth
You think the monetary system is just going to disappear? How do you propose to account for the job loss automation will incur? No, I don't view it in a very positive light at all.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Then where do people get money when companies lose money by employing humans?
If the government is paying everyone a salary , that is closer than socialism than capitalism...everything is a mix of course but....
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Then where do people get money when companies lose money by employing humans?
If the government is paying everyone a salary , that is closer than socialism than capitalism...everything is a mix of course but....
That is not the concern of capitalism since it is not a philosophical practice. As long as industry is controlled by the private sector you still have capitalism.