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Protesters have left behind not just trash, but tents and even cars. "There's more than anticipated, and it's under a lot of snow," Tribal Chairman Dave Archambault said. "I wouldn't say it's going to get done in days; it's going to take weeks."
originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: Rezlooper
So, they just walked along and threw trash on the ground, you assume?
well yes i do, first reason.
from your link,
Materials for salvage were set to the side, while loaders scraped up bucket loads of abandoned tents, sleeping bags, cooking utensils, food goods, and personal items mixed into slushy snow and ice.[/color] It all got poured into piles and dumpsters arranged around the camp perimeters and trucked to the landfill.
why on earth if everything was in trash bin and dumpsters would they have to scrape up bucket loads of tents sleeping bags cooking utensils, food goods, and personal items mixed into slushy snow and ice, and pile it up or place in dumpsters if it wasn't on the ground and if the tribe had all infrastructure already in place?
second reason, it's just a short little blurp
Abandoned Cars, Tents and Trash Left Behind By Protesters Who Have Gone Home
The tribe hopes to complete the work before any spring floodwaters from the Cannonball River can wash debris into the Missouri River.
Cleanup Begins at Dakota Access Pipeline Protest Encampment
why on earth would they hope that they can clean it up before the spring floods if it was all in trash bins,and dumpsters if the tribe had all infrastructure already in place?
thrid reason, this one even has a picture of the abandoned tents cars and even a bus.
The camp is near the rivers' confluence. It's been home since August to hundreds and sometimes thousands of pipeline opponents. Most have left, and they've left behind abandoned cars, tents and trash. Tribal Chairman Dave Archambault says the cleanup could take weeks. The cost isn't known.
Cleanup Begins At Dakota Access Pipeline Protest Encampment
why on earth would it takes weeks if they already had all infrastructure already in place?
see this little tid bit,
it all got poured into piles and dumpsters arranged around the camp perimeters and trucked to the landfill.
this is the the infrastructure of which you speak.
plus they are setting aside stuff to recycle during the cleanup, if all all infrastructure already in place, wouldn't have been easier to haul it off when tossed into the so called trash bins and dumpsters?
On Tuesday, contractors hired by the tribe began to clean up the protest sites. Loaders, dump trucks, an excavator, and skid-steers moved into the Oceti Sakowin camp and began to tear down structures and abandoned dwellings. Articles deemed worthy of salvage were set aside for donation in Bismarck and on other reservations. Still, massive amounts of trash remain and spring floodwaters are coming. “It is paramount for public safety, and to prevent an environmental disaster, that the camps be cleared prior to a potential spring flood,” Gov. Doug Burgum said in a statement on Monday. “Once the floodwaters recede, the land will need to be cleaned and eventually restored to pre-protest conditions.” At present, cleanup efforts are focusing on removing the camps themselves. The cost of cleaning up the camps is yet to be determined. .
The process has ironically shown how much the protesters themselves participated in the very disposable society they once criticized. “I came here to fight for the environment. A lot of this stuff was donated and used once and now it’s garbage. It’s like the aftermath of a hurricane,” said Joe Britt, who came to help construct the camp and has remained to watch it taken down.
both above from here,Standing Rock Races to Clean Up Protest Camps as DAPL Approval Nears
so it appears that they didn't have all infrastructure already in place.
fifth reason, i know human nature, very few of the people there give a sh@@, by this i mean if all these people that came to the protest cared about the environment they would not have left their sh@@.
here is a better idea of human nature, although not the same as the protest it still thousands of people living in a camp ground,that left their sh@@.
originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: Shamrock6
well i kinda got a feeling that somebody was looking for a little payola and didn't get it, so they pretended to care about their water.
the new spin will be it was just the white man that left his trash not us native americans.
but the fact remains that the people that came didn't give a damn about the environment if they did there wouldn't be a 1/4 of the trash that was left there . just a excuse to protest and show their a@@.
just the people from the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe are cleaning up, not all the protesters themselves. you know the ones that came out whining about the impact on the/their environment. it makes a difference who is actually cleaning it up.
How does it fall on the people who traveled their hundreds or thousands of miles to help, when tons of that stuff was shipped in on semi trucks to help the cause, the Standing Rock cause?
"It's unfortunate. Again, that just goes against what they're fighting against, is leaving that stuff and abandoning it and obviously the environment the river," says Scott Davis, North Dakota Commissioner for Indian Affairs.