Injuries reported after shots were fired at Ft. Lauderdale Airport

What do you think?

Is that the ISIS one finger?

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a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

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a reply to: Nyiah

Is it that they get stigmatized or that the things needed to treat them are perceived as stigmatizing?

The movement to try to mainstream and normalize people who clearly maybe shouldn't be seems to let a lot of grief come to a lot of people including, in this case, the shooter. If he's verifiably nuts, then who was helped by trying to keep him normalized and mainstreamed in this case?

Maybe a mental hospital would have been better for all involved.

a reply to: ketsuko

The moral of the story is do not watch ISIS videos when suffering from a schizophrenic psychotic episode

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
What do you think?

Is that the ISIS one finger?

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I thought the ISIS one finger was always presented with the palm forward.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
What do you think?

Is that the ISIS one finger?

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Is there an identifiable pattern to that scarf? It might help settle the debate on the finger.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Nyiah

Is it that they get stigmatized or that the things needed to treat them are perceived as stigmatizing?

The movement to try to mainstream and normalize people who clearly maybe shouldn't be seems to let a lot of grief come to a lot of people including, in this case, the shooter. If he's verifiably nuts, then who was helped by trying to keep him normalized and mainstreamed in this case?

Maybe a mental hospital would have been better for all involved.

I'm referring to both. In simplistic terms, the general public makes being both mentally ill and getting treatment seem very shameful. It comes off as regarding the ill as second-class citizens, if that. You more or less just lightly did that by shrugging off any problems.

a reply to: Nyiah
What if he was involved in some way with ISIS?

The rumors say the US was involved with creating them.

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Thank you!!

I knew I seen the other links before.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Official: Suspected Gunman Told FBI He Was Being Forced To Fight For ISIS

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Looky here. So, four years ago, he was discharged from the military, then two years ago, he claimed to the FBI that he was being forced to watch stuff from ISIS. I would like to know what exactly he was being forced to watch!

In 2011 or 2012, he was investigated by Homeland Security Investigations for child porn. Three weapons and a computer were seized, but there was not enough evidence to prosecute, according to law enforcement sources.

Hmmm...

a reply to: Nyiah

Did I?

I'm the one who suggested that some people should be hospitalized for treatment rather than trying to mainstream them or normalize them. Trying to force someone to do what they are not ready to do or capable of doing only leads to grief for all involved.

Mental hospitals were seen as stigmatizing which is why so many were shut down, but is the alternative of forcing the mentally ill to try to cope on their own much better?

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
What do you think?

Is that the ISIS one finger?

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I thought the ISIS one finger was always presented with the palm forward.

What ever ya do don't google it, but yes seems it's palm forward.

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Official: Suspected Gunman Told FBI He Was Being Forced To Fight For ISIS

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Looky here. So, four years ago, he was discharged from the military, then two years ago, he claimed to the FBI that he was being forced to watch stuff from ISIS. I would like to know what exactly he was being forced to watch!

In 2011 or 2012, he was investigated by Homeland Security Investigations for child porn. Three weapons and a computer were seized, but there was not enough evidence to prosecute, according to law enforcement sources.

Hmmm...

I have been reading some very interesting things lately, nothing would surprise me.

a reply to: ketsuko

Maybe I misunderstood you, I was referring to this:

The movement to try to mainstream and normalize people who clearly maybe shouldn't be

As shrugging off any problems because it seemed passive/aggressive.

We do have along way to go in how the mentally ill are viewed and helped, though. That's a social thing we need to keep working on, and I think it's safe to say there's no surefire way to do so yet. But revisiting things like "is hospitalization a negative, something detrimentally stigmatizing?" is a start.

What is this article of clothing around his neck?
It doesn't look like a traditional scarf.
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What is this article of clothing around his neck?
It doesn't look like a traditional scarf.
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Looks like a Keffiyeh.

a reply to: Nyiah

That statement was pointing to people like this guy today who was clearly seeking help before he popped off and killed. I don't know what else you would call it when he walks in to an office and tells people he's being forced to watch ISIS stuff. That seems like a cry for help to me.

Was it fair to anyone to leave him out on the street?

How about Adam Lanza? There were warning signs there too and no place for him to go and be treated in a way that wouldn't let him hurt himself or others.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Official: Suspected Gunman Told FBI He Was Being Forced To Fight For ISIS

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So is this a new category of ISIS-inspired?

He doesn't seem to be doing it because he wants to fight for them, but clearly, they inspired the attack in a roundabout way all the same.

Obviously, the guy seems to be nuts. But his trigger seems to have been ISIS related?

As far as psychotic episodes go, he could easily blame Elmo from Sesame Street. What someone fixates on is pretty much random.

ISIS is a logical fixation because it "fits the profile" of a bad guy forcing the patient to do bad things. 20 years ago he would have been saying the "the Devil is making me do it". Exactly the same concept.