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Cancer, the disease that we cannot cure (ever?) but we CAN treat people!

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posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Tested on mice with some succes... So we should stop all research why ? Not a scientist I guess ?

AGAIN : I JUST SAID : 'PH IS THE KEY' . What is wrong with that ?




posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: frenchfries

Sorry I probably should of said treatment,it uses the same principle I have seen countless medical threads derailed by shills even a few of my own I cured my schizophrenia with alternative medicine,vitamins and supplements but I wouldn't be so stupid as to share that here because its not the official narrative



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: frenchfries

Read ALL of the paper and you'll see why.

Here's a hint: it's got something to do with killing people.



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:21 AM
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So if one mentions PH one becomes alternative and this forum isn't about alternative medicine. Most members jump to conclusions. Nothing wrong with that , but after that name calling.I mean how should one discuss PH and cancer. I get it there was an hoaxer DR once. After that PH became for ever associated with hoaxers. But what if (and I'm not saying it is) PH is really the key. Well science may find that key , but this forum not , because it's undiscussable. In that sense I see some similarity with the mainstream media...



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: frenchfries

You keep on with the line "PH is the key", even after you've been shown it's not.

Talk about denial.



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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Dr Tulio Simoncini uses sodium bicarbonate or baking soda as an alkaline therapy against cancer but you see he actually cures many of his patients which makes him a pariah you cant have that you've got to have long expensive lingering death so big pharma makes a motza,just the mention of this guys name causes an establishment anneurism.



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79


However, it remains possible that this effect may be specific for buffers in the bicarbonate/CO2 family through involvement of carbonic anhydrase activity, which is important to pH regulation in tumors ( 46). Notwithstanding these concerns, however, the dramatic effect of bicarbonate therapy on the formation of breast cancer metastases in this model system warrants further investigation.


so warrants further investigation ctrl+f ed... nothing about killing. Did you read the article ? Point is this you hear PH and start to lash out without thinking. I'm not into alternative medicine and know that further research is done. I dont say drink h2so4 or lemons. I just said PH is the key. Well this if a medical conspiracy forum , some speculation is allowed me thinks. Time to think beyond an old hoaxer and consider PH as a possible wapon against cancer...

Cheers.



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: khnum

Actually, he's never cured anyone.

Also, he's not a doctor.



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: frenchfries

PH is not the key. Changing your blood PH too much will kill you.

You can search for other peer-reviewed studies if you want to prove me wrong.



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

You are free to believe in your precious western medicine and the slow miserable death it has on offer...bon appetit



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: frenchfries

just the mention of this guys name causes an establishment anneurism.


told ya



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: khnum

You mean not believing in a treatment that doesn't work and that will (and has) killed?

Yeah. Go baking soda lol

ETA: Here's a simple question for you.

Why are the people who eat A LOT of cakes (with baking soda in) still getting cancer?
edit on 26122016 by TerryDon79 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Well its safer than chemotherapy as I said bon appetit



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: TerryDon79

Well its safer than chemotherapy as I said bon appetit


So is water. But both water and baking soda have zero chance of curing cancer.



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: khnum

Well I dont know Dr Tulio Simoncini or what he did because I just found out about him a few hours ago. You know I'm not into alternative medicine. But I do know that many research with regards to PH and cancercells is done right now. Cancercells are already identified by PH by regular science . But I do know that regular science is very biased when it comes to protect their interests. I dont however want to be in this crossfire of alternative vs regular medicine. But it seems plausible if there is a 'cancercure' that doesn't invole big pharma , big pharma will do everthing to protect their market nice. So it seems plausible to me that the next cure for cancer would envolve some kind of expensive pill that has to be ingested for the rest of ones live...



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:45 AM
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Well I have cured schizophrenia,a bad liver and hypertension through alternative medicine and were I to get cancer alternative non-lethal treatments would be considered as in my family my uncle lasted 17 years beyond his stage 4 lung cancer diagnosis by doing so,compare that to a normal lung cancer patient...oh Im sorry you'll produce a study that shows my uncle never existed.



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: khnum

Have you got any evidence of that or am I supposed to take some stranger on the internets word?



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: frenchfries
did I say blood ? did I say Tullio simoncini ... you're saying things I didn't say.


No, you said:


Cancer and PH... controlling the PH is key in a possible cure


So how do you expect to control cancer cells PH?

The link you posted is a trial on using the slightly acidic interstitial environment of cancer cells for imaging, to make them clear for surgery. Not a cure.




originally posted by: Logarock
And no we just don't trust socialist medicine as well. More of the same for other reasons.


The Americans I met in London loved the NHS, despite all its faults it's a great system and even if you don't pay taxes you get the same treatments. You cannot say you have no faith in something you have not fully experienced.




originally posted by: khnum
Dr Tulio Simoncini uses sodium bicarbonate or baking soda as an alkaline therapy against cancer but you see he actually cures many of his patients which makes him a pariah you cant have that you've got to have long expensive lingering death so big pharma makes a motza,just the mention of this guys name causes an establishment anneurism.


Absolutely incorrect, he has never cured anybody. He had his licence removed and then went to work in the Netherlands where he treated a woman with breast cancer. The woman died of metabolic alkalosis disease as a result of overdose of sodium bicarbonate. (LINK in English).

Simoncini was never an oncologist, he was a doctor working for the Italian Social Security Services where all he did was to assess disabled people to see if they were entitled to disability benefits.



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

any evidence that you are who you say you are and not a medical profession shill.

as I said in a prior post its for my personal edification only I couldn't be bothered dealing with the deny ignorance closed minded blinkered crowd



posted on Dec, 26 2016 @ 11:52 AM
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a reply to: Agartha

Further to that, the only thing he was qualified In was a Ph.D. in philosophy.

Yeah. Go to a philosopher for medical treatment lol.



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