a reply to: SmilingROB
There are 4 points with regards to hacking (sorry for the long response).
1 - Election
There was suggestions Russia somehow interfered in the election process by "hacking" the systems and changing votes. This has been shut down
completely by Obama and AG Lynch who said there is no evidence election systems were hacked. Prior to the election several states reported voter rolls
were hacked and I have not seen an update other than several states reporting the hacks have determined it was coming from the Department of Homeland
Security. Government comment was to blame a "rogue" agent.
2 - DNC Emails
3 - Clinton emails
4 - Podestas emails
The accusation is russia hacked into these systems and then fed wikieaks the info Russia wanted out. They are stating Russia was trying to get revenge
on Clinton because of her comments about the Russian Presidential election and how corrupt it was and stating, essentially, Putin stole the
The DNC emails revealed corruption within the DNC, resulting in resignations of several top DNC people, including the DNC chair Debbie
wassermanschulz. The DNC is claiming Russia hacked into the DNC.
Clinton emails were hacked because she was stupid and used a private server that was not authorized and stored classified info on it (sent /
received). Supposedly a hacker named Gucifer (Romania) hacked in to it. The FBI later said Gucifer lied about that claim. The fall back is to blame
Podesta emails were hacked via a phishing scam email encouraging him to change his account password. He did that, giving access to the person / group
who sent the email to him. They are blaming Russia.
The DNC, according to Assange, was not hacked by anyone and there was no Russia involvement. Assange has stated that info was leaked to them by a
person / persons inside the DNC. Apparently the person was unhappy that Sanders got screwed via primary election tampering, resulting in Clinton
getting the nomination. They were also sick of the corruption they were seeing. A former British Ambassador has also confirmed Russia was not
involved and the info was leaked from within the DNC. (My and a lot of other peoples speculation was the DNC employee who was murdered in DC was the
leak. Wikileaks has also offered a reward in exchange for info / arrest of the culprits).
The claims about the RNC hack are apparently groundless. Assange did say they received info on Trump, however it was only a few pages and the info was
already in the public domain.
As for who gained access to the other info... I am not entirely sure however I doubt it was Russia. I am more inclined to believe people within our
own intelligence services are behind it. People seem to forget that over the summer FBI and intelligence agents warned that if Clinton was allowed to
walk / be protected they would start leaking information.
Thats is exactly what we saw when Comey decided to add the element of intent into the law which doesnt require it.
I believe Democrats / Clinton would rather blame Russia than be forced to admit that Clinton / Democrats were so corrupt that people within our own
government felt she was such a danger that they went to the extent they did to expose it.
Never mind the fact the leaks exposed corruption and illegal activity. The fact Democrats arent seeing that / understanding that is concerning.
The FBI also already concluded that there is nothing that shows Russia tipped the scales of the election in Trumps favor.
What we are seeing is Democrats in damage control mode with a healthy fear of what is going to happen when we get an AG who wont protect people
through politics. The kicker, and imo, Clinton is not pissed she lost. She is pissed at whom she lost to. When you acted as arrogant as Clinton did,
calling people deplorables or people who live in their parents basement its going to turn people off. When you cant accept responsibility for your own
actions it will turn people off. When you get caught having 2 different positions based on who you are talking to will turn people off.
Just to put this out there. I cant stand assange and dont agree with the way he does things. and the same holds for Putin (and people on this site can
confirm my feelings towards those 2). In this case I am more inclined to believe Assange and Putin over the CIA / Hillary / Obama / Democrats. They
have lied one to many times for my taste and simply cannot be trusted.
Clinton didnt want to work for the votes. She felt she was owed the Presidency and in the end it was her / Democrats undoing.
18-12-2016 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)
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