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Where is the evidence of this supposed "Russian Influence", or is all this just more FAKE NEWS?

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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:09 PM
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Disney owns ABC Television, Marvel Comic’s magazine publishing business, Disney Films, Lucas Films, and a huge number of other media and entertainment enterprises. Many people are unaware that choices are limited in information because the mainstream media is controlled by just a few corporations. People believe if they can change channels they are making choices of numerous sources of media to fit their bias. There aren’t numerous US mass media news sources at all; there are just five. Five giant corporations that control 90 percent of US mass media. And direct links connect all five of these media conglomerates to the political establishment and the economic and political power-elites of the United States. These five conglomerates are Time Warner, Disney, Murdochs’ News Corporation, Bertelsmann of Germany, and Viacom (formerly CBS). Their control spans most of the newspapers, magazines, books, radio and TV stations, movie studios, and much of the web news content of the United States. These conglomerates are in large measure responsible for inculcating the social, political, economic, and moral values of both adults and children in the United States. Now it is important to point out that all the five major media conglomerates are corporate members of the Council on Foreign Relations, a US think-tank whose members have been instrumental in formulating U.S. government policies resulting in sanctions, destabilization efforts, and the military attacks on nations which have never attacked the US.

The Council’s members’ activities helped to promote the Iraq War, the bombings of Serbia and Libya, and the recent overthrow of the elected government of the Ukraine. The promotion of these policies by the media conglomerates which belong to the Council has been key to preparing the American public to accept these policies. The media conglomerates’ fellow members of the Council on Foreign Relations include a large number of large corporations, powerful CEO’s, and present and former government officials. One prominent member is former US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski, a cold war fossil who has over time called for the United States control of the Eurasian landmass, which includes Russia and China, pushing us ever closer to war with these countries. Two years ago there was a CIA intelligence dump that was recovered and heavily redacted. The intelligence dump revealed that Intelligence operations actually manipulate the media. The history of the CIA’s involvement with the American press continues to be shrouded by an official policy of obfuscation and deception. There are still many individuals who will continue to deny the news business has a very long and deceptive relationship with the State department and the CIA. There are many conspiracy theorists who tell you that media disinformation provided by the CIA or NSA is old news, however, it is still worthy of exposure due to the fact the mainstream as decided to make alternative media the scapegoat for Hillary Clinton’s loss in the election.

After 24 theories were examined by CNN, the two main culprits were social media and internet “fake news.” “Fake news” is just Orwellian Newspeak for alternative news. According to Carl Bernstein, the famed reporter of the Washington Post, the use of journalists has been among the most productive means of spreading of disinformation or fake news employed by the CIA. Although the Agency has cut back sharply on the use of reporters since 1973 primarily as a result of pressure from the media), some journalist operatives’ are still posted abroad.

Recently, the Justice Department gave the green light for FBI agents to conduct undercover investigations and to impersonate journalists. They are once again legalizing the government’s most notorious propaganda program, Operation Mockingbird. Allowing agents to infiltrate media organizations for any reason threatens to utterly undermine public trust, kill the very concept of journalistic integrity, and throttle the flow of information from sources and whistleblowers concerned with the legitimacy of journalists they contact. As shocking as the finding sounds, it only validates the practice. In fact, the report centers around a case from 2007 in which an FBI agent pretended to be an Associated Press journalist to identify an elusive suspect online. At the time, the FBI did not prohibit agents from impersonating journalists or from posing as a member of a news organization, the report states. Mockingbird has a rich history where agents posing as reporters and anchors intentionally report fake news to cover up the abuse of power and impunity of the government. In the past the CIA’s use of the American news media has been much more extensive than Agency officials have acknowledged publicly or in closed sessions with members of Congress. The general outlines of what happened are indisputable; the specifics are harder to come by. CIA sources hint that a particular journalist was trafficking all over Eastern Europe for the Agency; the journalist says no, he just had lunch with the station chief. CIA sources say flatly that a well known ABC correspondent worked for the Agency through 1973; they refuse to identify him.




posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:09 PM
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However, it has been revealed that the well known anchor on ABC and CNN, "Anderson Cooper", worked for the CIA 20 years ago. Cooper admits in a blog that for a couple months over the course of two summers, that he worked at the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. In his blog explaining the stint after his attending Yale, Cooper is incredulous as to why so many people want to know what he did for the CIA. According to CNN spokespeople he left the CIA and nothing more was said about it. The only thing that seems strange is that after he allegedly left the CIA he went to Burma and got involved with dissident students fighting the government there while claiming to be a reporter though having no affiliation with any news outlet. After that he moved to Vietnam, he also lived in Somalia, Bosnia, and Rwanda. Anyone with cursory knowledge of the U.S. government’s nefarious programs to control its citizenry will undoubtedly see similarities between the FBI’s fake journalism plot and the post-World War II CIA propaganda campaign, Operation Mockingbird.

To ensure support for its operations and views, the CIA clandestinely recruited American journalists and media outlets, funded the creation of student and cultural organizations, launched purely propaganda-based print media, and, ultimately, worked its way into political campaigns and employed similar methods abroad. Mainstream outlets like the New York Times, the Washington Post, CBS, and many others, actively and willingly disseminated propaganda disguised as news through suppression, censorship, and selective focus, etc., in the interest of the government. Mockingbird covertly influenced national opinion for years, nefariously planting the CIA’s narrative on the unwitting collective public mind before finally being at least partially exposed over a decade later. It wasn’t until a congressional investigation in 1975 the putative full extent of the program was revealed. Although the CIA claimed it would no longer recruit journalists and media organizations into its folds, Mockingbird has often been rumored never to have stopped. It was the CIA that first disseminated the idea of “conspiracy theory” and now “fake news” has been created to take its place.

Some 50 percent of Americans now believe in so-called “conspiracies,” so it’s very obvious that fake news is a meme needed to completely discredit any theory or thought that goes against the mainstream narrative. President Barack Obama has spoken out about fake news on Facebook and other media platforms, suggesting that it helped undermine the US political process. He stated at a press conference in Germany that; "If we are not serious about facts and what’s true and what’s not, if we can’t discriminate between serious arguments and propaganda, then we have problems." Since the surprise election of Donald Trump as president-elect, Facebook has battled accusations that it has failed to stem the flow of misinformation on its network and that its business model leads to users becoming divided into polarized political echo chambers. The fake news meme is all over search-engine news and prominent people like Obama are speaking out about the meme and basically endorsing it. Timing is everything and now allowing agents to infiltrate media organizations for any reason threatens to utterly undermine public trust, kill the very concept of journalistic integrity, and throttle the flow of information from sources and whistleblowers concerned with the legitimacy of journalists they contact. They float the meme of fake news as they make preparations to fake the news.

According to a 2007 poll by the Pew Research Center, the majority of the American public sees the US major media news organizations as politically biased, inaccurate, and uncaring. Among those who use the Internet, two-thirds report that major media news do not care about the people they report on, 59% say the news is inaccurate, 64% see bias, and 53% summarize their view on major media news as, “failing to stand up for America. In their 2009 poll, just 29% of Americans say that news organizations generally get the facts straight, while 63% say that news stories are often inaccurate. Gallup’s 2014 poll recorded the lowest ever US public confidence in accurate news reporting from corporate media’s television news: 18%. A June 2010 Rasmussen poll found 66% of voters angry at the media, with 33% very angry. Rasmussen also found 70% “angry” at current federal government policies. The most current Gallup poll in 2012 shows Americans’ distrust at an all-time high in the reporting from mass media, such as newspapers, TV, and radio: 60% have either not very much trust and confidence, or none at all to “reporting the news fully, accurately, and fairly. If the media places its communicative muscle behind tarring and feathering certain cogent criticisms of the government as false, it will likely only speed up the decline of mainstream credibility. The media and the intelligent agencies infiltrating it are desperate.

DECEMBER 12, 2016



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:09 PM
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a reply to: muse7


It has already been verified by CrowdStrike and the CIA. Some people are refusing to believe it. Some senators in Congress are calling for an investigation.


So it's been verified over the weekend? Because yesterday morning I was watching CNN, and they said they didn't have proof, but the "general consensus" was that Russia hacked in.

Evidence of just being hacked, by someone, isn't very good evidence that it was Russia, for sure, or that it even had any bearing on the election.

And I'm not a Trump fan, not a fan of either of the 2 main candidates. It's like the worst of the worst of the country.....



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

Not really lol, the sad part about that comment is that it probably had more evidence than claims of Russians rigging the election..



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
Allowing the truth about Hillary and the DNC to come out is called 'manipulating an election'.

In the old days, it was called investigative journalism.

But the 'journalists' in this case were in bed with the bad guys.


Ah yes..

One of the most dangerous demagogues in the world, who regularly jails gays and assassinates political opponents, propping up another demagouge because he knows he would have his way with him is now "investigative journalism". And "exposing the truth".



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:12 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: muse7
It has already been verified by CrowdStrike


Then why isn't the FBI backing them up?


Maybe it's the FBI that has an agenda here? Why would a domestic law enforcement agency know more than the CIA about a foreign government and what they may or may not be capable of?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

Why would the CIA know more about what's happening on US Soil than would the FBI??

Who was it that used to hunt domestic KBG agents back during the Cold War? FBI

Who would be the ones doing all the hacker analysis stuff on the server stuff here? FBI

So, like I've pointed out, unless the CIA has some Mission Impossible scoop, then what the hell would they know?

Lastly, considering the CIA has decades under their belt of rigging foreign elections and overthrowing foreign governments that go against THEIR agenda, why the hell would we want them having ANYTHING to do with our election process??


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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

See barney's post above, everything you've said is essentially nulled.




posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:22 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: underwerks

See barney's post above, everything you've said is essentially nulled.


Yeah, um, that half page word salad didn't nullify anything. Did you read that?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:37 PM
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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: underwerks

Why would the CIA know more about what's happening on US Soil than would the FBI??

Who was it that used to hunt domestic KBG agents back during the Cold War? FBI

Who would be the ones doing all the hacker analysis stuff on the server stuff here? FBI

So, like I've pointed out, unless the CIA has some Mission impossible scoop, then what the hell would they know?

Lastly, considering the CIA has decades under their belt of rigging foreign elections and overthrowing foreign governments that go against THEIR agenda, why the hell would we want them having ANYTHING to do with our election process??

The CIA would be in more of a position to know because it's their job to monitor and evaluate foreign threats, the FBI is a domestic law enforcement agency.

Which is why it would probably be the FBI with an agenda here. They aren't in a position to know, but have already made up their minds on it.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: barneytaylor

Dude you should have just started a new thread with all that



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: underwerks

Why would the CIA know more about what's happening on US Soil than would the FBI??

Who was it that used to hunt domestic KBG agents back during the Cold War? FBI

Who would be the ones doing all the hacker analysis stuff on the server stuff here? FBI

So, like I've pointed out, unless the CIA has some Mission impossible scoop, then what the hell would they know?

Lastly, considering the CIA has decades under their belt of rigging foreign elections and overthrowing foreign governments that go against THEIR agenda, why the hell would we want them having ANYTHING to do with our election process??

The CIA would be in more of a position to know because it's their job to monitor and evaluate foreign threats, the FBI is a domestic law enforcement agency.

Which is why it would probably be the FBI with an agenda here. They aren't in a position to know, but have already made up their minds on it.


Oh how wrong you are. The FBI is responsible for counter intelligence inside of the USA. NOT the CIA



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:50 PM
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I started from the last post, which was what I was referring to.

You are taking the word of an organization whose job is to lie, cheat, and steal. Who use deception to undermine and overthrow democratic governments.

Iran 1953.

Guatemala 1954.

Vietnam 1954(failed).

Laos 1957-1973(failed).

Operation Chaos, not indicative of the trust you place in the CIA.

Chile 1973.

Just a few examples, it's a pretty extended list. Iran used to be a democratic nation, the most westernized ME country, until the CIA help overthrow the government.

In fact, the recent surge in immigration from OTM countries, shows that only the OTMs who suffered coups and the support of brutal dictators by the CIA are the ones that began such a stir over immigration in recent years.

I'm not going to believe a word from an organization whose job it is to overthrow democratic governments through deception and other nefarious means.
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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

All news I do not like is fake! Hooray!!

Well that was easy.

Delusional bubbles are fun! Until they pop.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:58 PM
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originally posted by: khnum
Ladies and gentlemen in the red corner we have

Hillary Clinton and 1.2 billion dollars
The Mainstream media
The White House
The CIA
Half the Republican party
The DNC multimedia social media juggernaut
Wall Street
Saudi Arabia and Qatar
The Legions of hell
the unions and
Hollywood.

and in the blue corner

Sorcha faal Russian hacker and Colonel Smirnoff her Kremlin advisor.

Lets get ready to ruuuuuummble

......its all so pathetic its ridiculous

Your "red corner" is seriously exaggerated (shouldnt the colors be reversed ? . Dems are blue , Repubs are red)
I recommend you research what demographics voted for which candidate before you post a "fake list"
Or , did you get that from a "fake news" article ?
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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:01 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: underwerks

I started from the last post, which was what I was referring to.

You are taking the word of an organization whose job is to lie, cheat, and steal. Who use deception to undermine and overthrow democratic governments.

Iran 1953.

Guatemala 1954.

Vietnam 1954(failed).

Laos 1957-1973(failed).

Operation Chaos, not indicative of the trust you place in the CIA.

Chile 1973.

Just a few examples, it's a pretty extended list. Iran used to be a democratic nation, the most westernized ME country, until the CIA help overthrow the government.

In fact, the recent surge in immigration from OTM countries, shows that the only the OTMs who suffered coups and the support of brutal dictators by the CIA are the ones that began such a stir over immigration in recent years.

I'm not going to believe a word from an organization whose job it is to overthrow democratic governments through deception and other nefarious means.

Exactly. The reason why I trust what they're saying on this, is because you're correct on everything you just posted.

Who was it they were working for when they overthrew all those foreign governments? Who did they overthrow them to give an advantage to?

America.

I don't agree with their motives on I'd say probably 99% of things they've been involved in, mostly because they are by default pro America even at the expense of other countries and lives and other countries freedoms. The CIA isn't an America 2nd type of organization.

Trust would be a strong word to use, but I believe they'd know more about this particular thing than the FBI.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:05 PM
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It`s fake news brought to you by the same people who brought you " saddam has WMD we have to attack him now!"



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:08 PM
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No.

It was for the benefit of US corporations.

United Fruit Co., US oil companies, etc.

It was not for our benefit.

Iran/Contra was not for the benefit of Americans. The CIA was selling crack-coc aine to gangs in LA, ruining thousands of AMERICAN lives.

Tell me how selling crack-coc aine to gangs in LA benefited America?

Tell me how training and funding mujahideen fighters, including Osama bin Laden, who later was the mastermind behind the 9/11 terror attacks benefited America.

Edit:

Also, tell me how overthrowing Central/South American governments, causing mass influx of OTM immigrants into our southern border benefits Americans?
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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:10 PM
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originally posted by: Tardacus
It`s fake news brought to you by the same people who brought you " saddam has WMD we have to attack him now!"


Dick Cheney is responsible for this? George Busch?

Also, I don't think you guys know what "fake news" is. I think a lot of you are having a "sour grapes" reaction to having your favorite news sources labeled as fake, so you're labeling everything fake. Pretty much par for the course on ATS.

For the record, politicians and the CIA are pointing the finger at the russians. Reporting that isn't "fake news."

Fake news would be if the news agency simply fabricated the story.
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