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Where is the evidence of this supposed "Russian Influence", or is all this just more FAKE NEWS?

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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:25 PM
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Iran was overthrown for British Petroleum (BP).

Guatemala was overthrown for United Fruit Company (UFC).

Those wikpedia pages have a section covering these too:
1949 Syrian coup d'état
1949–1953 Albania
1951–56 Tibet
1953 Iranian coup d'état
1954 Guatemalan coup d'état
1956–57 Syria crisis
1960 Congo coup d'état
1961 Cuba, Bay of Pigs Invasion
1961 Dominican Republic
1963 South Vietnamese coup
1964 Bolivian coup d'état
1964 Brazilian coup d'état
1966 Ghana coup d'état
1971 Bolivian coup d'état
1973 Chilean coup d'état
1980 Turkish coup d'état
1979–89 Afghanistan, Operation Cyclone
1981–87 Nicaragua, Contras
2001 Afghanistan
2011 Libyan civil war
2011–present Syria

That's a bunch of them. There are others (that are known, and surely far more unknown). Note how Iraq isn't on there. That's an easy one. But there are a bunch in Wikipedia and they are FACT.

These things are done for 'WALL STREET' and/or American Imperialism, not for The People of the United States of America.

Who does 'Wall Street' back? Hillary.

What are some other larger coup de tat operations?
Operation GLADIO
en.wikipedia.org...
Operation CONDOR
en.wikipedia.org...

Operation CONDOR is a real ugly bitch.

All a bunch of BS the lot of these violent overthrows and election rigging operations, typically done under the guise of being "anti-communism", yet Guatemala & Iran are perfect case studies where the claim was BOGUS.

That's what the CIA does, NOT study domestic SIGINT for hackers and do followup investigations (that's what the FBI & NSA does).

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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: underwerks

No.

It was for the benefit of US corporations.

United Fruit Co., US oil companies, etc.

It was not for our benefit.

Iran/Contra was not for the benefit of Americans. The CIA was selling crack-coc aine to gangs in LA, ruining thousands of AMERICAN lives.

Tell me how selling crack-coc aine to gangs in LA benefited America?

Tell me how training and funding mujahideen fighters, including Osama bin Laden, who later was the mastermind behind the 9/11 terror attacks benefited America.

Edit:

Also, tell me how overthrowing Central/South American governments, causing mass influx of OTM immigrants into our southern border benefits Americans?

I'm not trying to talk positively about the CIA, that's not what I meant.

Knowing their devious methods I think they'd be in a better position to know than the FBI. That's what I was getting at. The reason they know their game so well is because of how evil they are.

I think the CIA is part of wikileaks and don't want that info to get out beyond speculation. I've been reading wikileaks since the early days, and something is definitely different now.

The CIA isn't a separate entity from our government. All those evil things, the crack coc aine, the overthrowing of other nations, that's America doing that.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Next entry for CIA coup may well be:

United States 2016.

For the benefit of Wall Street.

Many of these coups have far reaching repercussions that should serve as a lesson that this tactic should be avoided.

CIA getting involved in US political process, that is a recipe for disaster, and given the history we will see a CIA-backed dictator who mass murders dissent and opposition.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:31 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

Know what? They are a trove of SPIES, not domestic investigators. Unless they have some spy tips, they are irrelevant.

The go to guys on this DOMESTIC front are the NSA & FBI. And they've delivered squat.

What we know for a FACT about the CIA is they go abroad and overthrow democratically elected governments, and rig democratic elections. They are the anti-thesis of American democratic society values. They run the drugs. They arm the terrorists. They are scum. For anybody to know the real truth about them to then prop them up on such a matter is pure lunacy.

HERE IS THE TRUTH:
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:32 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

You are not sure,

whether the CIA is 'exposing' this 'secret' information that we cannot view to save America from a terrible decision; or to overthrow US government and install their Wall Street friendly mass murdering dictator.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:34 PM
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Only a psychopath like Hillary and her cronies would think the CIA is a reputable source of information.

I bet even the poor sap from the CIA that was ordered to push this BS story is shaking his head saying "this ain't gonna work..."



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:34 PM
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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:34 PM
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Here goes Operation PBSUCCESS (the overthrow of Guatemala for effing BANANAS):



And from Democracy Now:
"Allan Nairn: U.S. Backers of Guatemalan Death Squads Should Be Jailed Alongside Ex-President"


And Coca Cola had a hand in the DEATH SQUADS there too:

www.huffingtonpost.com...
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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

It's fake news..




posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:41 PM
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If Russia was not trying to influence our election what happened to all the imminent nuclear war talk?

The timing of all the nuclear sabre rattling was suspicious and the timing of it just going away is pretty suspicious.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: underwerks

You are not sure,

whether the CIA is 'exposing' this 'secret' information that we cannot view to save America from a terrible decision; or to overthrow US government and install their Wall Street friendly mass murdering dictator.

I'm sure the CIA could care less about who's going to be the president for the next 4 years.

They, along with most everyone else in government, will still be on the job 4 years from now when Trump is starting a crappy cable news network.

"Mass murdering dictator" lol. I think your politics are showing.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

I'm now sure you have no idea about anything to do with the CIA, nor even care what they do, just so long as Hillary gets in and can go overthrow more governments thus destroying MILLIONS of lives like in Syria, Iraq, Libya, etc. That's what the psycho hitmen in the CIA like to do, and Trump has openly said recently that is going to stop.


Meanwhile, from another thread:


originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources

www.reuters.com...


The overseers of the U.S. intelligence community have not embraced a CIA assessment that Russian cyber attacks were aimed at helping Republican President-elect Donald Trump win the 2016 election, three American officials said on Monday. While the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) does not dispute the CIA's analysis of Russian hacking operations, it has not endorsed their assessment because of a lack of conclusive evidence that Moscow intended to boost Trump over Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, said the officials, who declined to be named. The position of the ODNI, which oversees the 17 agency-strong U.S. intelligence community, could give Trump fresh ammunition to dispute the CIA assessment, which he rejected as "ridiculous" in weekend remarks, and press his assertion that no evidence implicates Russia in the cyber attacks. Trump's rejection of the CIA's judgment marks the latest in a string of disputes over Russia's international conduct that have erupted between the president-elect and the intelligence community he will soon command. An ODNI spokesman declined to comment on the issue. "ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong, only that they can't prove intent," said one of the three U.S. officials. "Of course they can't, absent agents in on the decision-making in Moscow."

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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: underwerks

Know what? They are a trove of SPIES, not domestic investigators. Unless they have some spy tips, they are irrelevant.

Is that all they are? Nothing but spies? Zero anything else?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: underwerks

I'm now sure you have no idea about anything to do with the CIA, nor even care what they do, just so long as Hillary gets in and can go overthrow more governments thus destroying MILLIONS of lives like in Syria, Iraq, Libya, etc. That's what the psycho hitmen in the CIA like to do, and Trump has openly said recently that is going to stop.


Meanwhile, from another thread:


originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources

www.reuters.com...


The overseers of the U.S. intelligence community have not embraced a CIA assessment that Russian cyber attacks were aimed at helping Republican President-elect Donald Trump win the 2016 election, three American officials said on Monday. While the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) does not dispute the CIA's analysis of Russian hacking operations, it has not endorsed their assessment because of a lack of conclusive evidence that Moscow intended to boost Trump over Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, said the officials, who declined to be named. The position of the ODNI, which oversees the 17 agency-strong U.S. intelligence community, could give Trump fresh ammunition to dispute the CIA assessment, which he rejected as "ridiculous" in weekend remarks, and press his assertion that no evidence implicates Russia in the cyber attacks. Trump's rejection of the CIA's judgment marks the latest in a string of disputes over Russia's international conduct that have erupted between the president-elect and the intelligence community he will soon command. An ODNI spokesman declined to comment on the issue. "ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong, only that they can't prove intent," said one of the three U.S. officials. "Of course they can't, absent agents in on the decision-making in Moscow."

Riddle me this: Would you support Trump being denied office if there was irrefutable evidence that the Russians were influencing the election?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

The head of this 'intelligence community' is an appointee of Obama, it's a political play and nothing more.

Russia swaying public opinion of US citizens is nothing new, that's how the entire leftist hippy movement/cultural phenomenon occurred.

If an American wants to watch UK broadcasting, and make their election decision based on foreign news broadcasting, that is their decision and is no grounds for canceling an election.

If Russia is proven to have hacked the DNC emails, and exposed the DNC criminal collusion, that is not grounds for undermining the Will of the People. I would support better security procedures among political parties, better cybersecurity etc.

Now if it is wrong for Russia to sway public opinion when it comes to an election, that is also applicable to MSM/US government swaying public opinion during elections as well.

James Clapper is behind this BS, he is an Obama political appointee, and is a disgrace. There should be no politics or special interests when it comes to national security.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

What difference does it make what they think?

Here's reality: Syria was their ally. Hillary's Al Qaeda went in there to overthrow them. ISIS too. It's beyond a shadow that ObamaHillaryCo. have been directly supporting Al Qaeda towards these ends. Of course Russia is going to be at odds with that.

For them to work against such vile creatures I'm supposed to choose said vile creatures because HILLARY HAS BEEN SUPPORTING AL QAEDA??

Humor me this: HOW DOES ANY OF YOUR YEARNINGS AND SUCH MAKE LICK OF SENSE? How does any of it have a shred of ethics or morals?

MILLIONS OF LIVES DESTROYED BY OBAMAHILLARY CO. AND YOU GUYS ARE FLIRTING WITH STARTING A HOT CIVIL WAR HERE BECAUSE YOU DONT LIKE TRUMP (who happens to be against overthrowing governments which is why said millions of lives are destroyed).



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:58 PM
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Conspiracy Inside America

Regardless of the Russians, regardless of Trump, unless the Washington Post is lying, the CIA is playing politics in the form of a whispering campaign, and probably violating several federal laws in the process.

For now, President-Elect Trump is not in a position to stop them, and possibly in danger of being targeted by an agency that has a long track record of carrying out assassinations and overthrowing democratically-elected governments.

I don't know if the Russians tried to get Trump elected, and think it deserves credible and competent investigation. That would exclude passing off anonymous allegations to reporters for public consumption, and thus would necessarily exclude the CIA.

When they're pulling shenanigans like these, it's clear that the CIA is out of control, needs a thorough housecleaning from top to bottom and, quite possibly, prosecution for anyone violating federal law to pursue unconstitutional political objectives under the color of authority.

Who needs foreign interference in American democracy when the CIA is doing it right here at home?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: Majic

They will never relinquish power, they hold too many people in politics by the balls, beside that they are experts at getting rid of those that pose a danger to their power.

CIA is not longer an office that answers to the American government but they have been infiltrated by private interest so the CIA can do the dirty business for them.


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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 09:08 PM
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that was quick

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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: underwerks

What difference does it make what they think?

Here's reality: Syria was their ally. Hillary's Al Qaeda went in there to overthrow them. ISIS too. It's beyond a shadow that ObamaHillaryCo. have been directly supporting Al Qaeda towards these ends. Of course Russia is going to be at odds with that.

For them to work against such vile creatures I'm supposed to choose said vile creatures because HILLARY HAS BEEN SUPPORTING AL QAEDA??

Humor me this: HOW DOES ANY OF YOUR YEARNINGS AND SUCH MAKE LICK OF SENSE? How does any of it have a shred of ethics or morals?

MILLIONS OF LIVES DESTROYED BY OBAMAHILLARY CO. AND YOU GUYS ARE FLIRTING WITH STARTING A HOT CIVIL WAR HERE BECAUSE YOU DONT LIKE TRUMP (who happens to be against overthrowing governments which is why said millions of lives are destroyed).

So is that a yes or no to the question?

Would you support Hillary taking over if there was irrefutable evidence that Trump was helped by Russia?

From your statements it seems you'd rather have a Putin patsy as president because not-Hillary.




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