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China flew nuclear-capable bombers around Taiwan before Trump call with Taiwanese president

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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 07:58 AM
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Sabre rattling. Looks like China wanted to know what Trump thinks about Taiwan. And they found out, Trump called Taiwan ans talked to the president of Taiwan. Looks like a bumpy ride ahead? Or is this just setting the tone for the future relationship.


China sent 2 nuke capable bombers and escorts to fly around Taiwan.


Less than a week before President-elect Donald Trump spoke with Taiwan’s president over the phone, China flew a pair of long-range nuclear-capable bombers around Taiwan for the first time, two U.S. officials revealed to Fox News.



The Chinese planes gathered radar info and conducted other surveillance on Japan. Japan scrambled 8 f-15's. This was a legal fly by, but this is the first time China circled Taiwan.


On Nov. 26, two Chinese Xian H-6 bombers, along with two escort planes, a Tupolev Tu-154 and Shaanxi Y-8, flew around the island of Taiwan from mainland China, taking off and landing from two separate Chinese military bases.

The escort jets were used to collect radar information and conduct other surveillance on American allies such as Japan, Fox News is told. The Chinese bombers stayed in international airspace, according to officials.



www.foxnews.com...
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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: seasonal




Trump called Taiwan ans talked to the president of Taiwan.


NO. SHE called Trump to congratulate him on winning. HE did not call HER.
China wants to keep their boot on our throat, but Trump is not playing their games.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 08:16 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

Being honest though isn't this all a bit sensationalist?

Nuclear capable planes and circling Taiwan?

Be afraid kinda stuff.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 08:25 AM
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Yeah I heard, china is realizing that they can't stump the trump so they, in all their glory, they send nuclear equipped bombers out, lol.
That doesnt scare me the slightest, and neither should it. I have faith in the US and I have faith in our new president elect.
A non backer to chinese interest.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 08:27 AM
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Now this is weird, this is before the fact...so what gives, they knew a call was going to happen? Conflicting media reports.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: Arnie123

I think this is all testing the waters. China wants to see what Trump is made of.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: Arnie123

I don't think China has a time machine, precognition? I doubt that too.

Jumping the gun conclusion?

I think if China wanted to send a message they'd do it properly, like launch a few nuclear capable missiles over Taiwan?

I feel that this was a surveillance run, probably a very successful one since the Japanese played ball and sent an intercept group. We have some aviation experts here. Say for instance the possibility of a nuclear bombing run was on the cards, what height and speed would these planes need to be to be successful? As in drop payload return home.

I doubt anything adds up, I doubt amything other than surveillance... I doubt a first wave would be planes at all, in other words I'm thinking this is hyped up bull, I'd be worried if China threw a few missiles over Taiwan though.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 08:42 AM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: seasonal




Trump called Taiwan ans talked to the president of Taiwan.


NO. SHE called Trump to congratulate him on winning. HE did not call HER.
China wants to keep their boot on our throat, but Trump is not playing their games.

Correct.
Has anyone else noticed the MSM running the story with the headline as 'Trump called Taiwan leader'? Then when you listen to the actual story, they mention that she called him.

More misleading news.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 08:58 AM
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a reply to: butcherguy

Where are you getting the info that the call was from Taiwan, not from Trump?

EDIT::I see, in the video the anchor said it was a call From Taiwan. This is the only place I can find that it was a call from not to. Thanks for the info.
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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 09:06 AM
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Why don't we just kick off the fight already with China? They have been begging for an arse kicking for a while now. They are desperate to show how powerful their armies are, I think we should oblige their request.

I never did like China's commie dictator government. Nothing but egg rolls with tooth picks for weapons. All you need is a knife and a fork to tear them apart.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 09:23 AM
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www.cnn.com...


Conway said Trump had made "dozens and dozens" of phone calls with world leaders that had gone "really well" and said he was "well aware of what US policy has been on Taiwan.


In regard to Taiwan, it appeared he received the call, but according to the Washington Post,

The historic communication — the first between leaders of the United States and Taiwan since 1979 — was the product of months of quiet preparations and deliberations among Trump’s advisers about a new strategy for engagement with Taiwan that began even before he became the Republican presidential nominee, according to people involved in or briefed on the talks.
That would make receiving or making the call a technicality.

According to Fox News :


Taiwan President Tsai Ing-Wen called Trump Friday to congratulate him on the election in a call set up by an American third party. Taiwan's official Central News Agency, citing anonymous sources on Saturday, said that Edwin Feulner, founder of the Washington-based Heritage Foundation, was a "crucial figure" in setting up communication channels between the sides.


This was not just his phone ringing randomly and the Taiwanese President saying 'Gratz'. lol.

It was planned in advance, so it appears China may have knew when.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: reldra

Very good points, maybe we are being led around like little puppies.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 09:34 AM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: butcherguy

Where are you getting the info that the call was from Taiwan, not from Trump?

EDIT::I see, in the video the anchor said it was a call From Taiwan. This is the only place I can find that it was a call from not to. Thanks for the info.

Here is some thing from the New York Times .


Mr. Huntsman’s name has recently surfaced as a candidate for secretary of state, along with that of John R. Bolton, a former ambassador to the United Nations under President George W. Bush. Mr. Bolton met with Mr. Trump on the day he took the phone call from Ms. Tsai. Later, he said the United States “should shake up the relationship” with China.

When you look at most of the stories, you see that she placed the call and Trump answered it. But, as you can see in the NYT story.... "Trump's call with Taiwan" headline.... they play it another way.
Fact is, it wasn't Trump that called, he answered.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: butcherguy

fake news maybe just a touch?



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: seasonal

I wouldn't say fake, more like twisting the facts and click baiting headliners.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: butcherguy

fake news maybe just a touch?

Same as always, media twisting things to suit their agenda.
If no one reads the article, they assume that Trump called. But the Times is off the hook, because the article does state that she called him.
I heard the story three times on the radio this morning. Each time it was stated that Trump made the call. That is fake news, IMO.
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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 04:37 PM
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Leave Taiwan alone Commie bitches!



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 05:57 PM
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When it comes down to it China lacks any real grit.

Their army is for their own citizenry.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: reldra

That's pretty interesting reldra.

China won't take kindly to anything but a one-state solution, it fully expects Taiwan back someday, I'm sure it is theirs according to their maps.

It was only 20 years ago the US humiliated the Chinese when they showed provocation towards Taiwan.

If another Taiwan straight crisis occurs, I doubt China would be keen on being shown up again.

It's a thorn in the side if China, I don't think a military answer is a good option for anyone though. It would be a nasty stand off. A lot has changed in the region, China is a lot more potent and they'll be predicting any potential outcome including a US invasion.

A lot of if and but, but I think in the here and now if a conflict happened China's neighbours would take full advantage of the situation. It's hard to win in a circle of fire.

I don't know... The conspiracist in me says if a stand off happened or even actual engagement then North Korea would prove to be a timely and nasty distraction.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 10:51 PM
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a reply to: Lysergic

I wouldn't underestimate them. They've been stealing your blueprints and copying for a while now, they've studied your military in active engagements and developed technology and tactics with the US in mind.

They know your Achilles heel.

Shooting down and knocking satellites out of orbit was nothing to do with Chinese citizens. China's ASAT technology isn't seen as a joke at all...



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