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originally posted by: seasonal
I can't shoot lead ore out of my 12 gauge. The ore has to be processed. The US doesn't make lead anymore, we make ore.
Smelting, an essential part of the primary production, is often skipped in the secondary production. The reason for that is that scrap lead itself is commonly reproduced to its metallic form. As such, smelting is only performed when metallic lead had undergone significant chemical transformation, such as oxidation/rusting.
originally posted by: seasonal
Sorry Braw, the US has no smelting production. And we are the 3 largest mining countries. Again I can't shoot lead ore through any firearm.
"The primary smelter did close, (but) we are still supplying ammo customers through our only secondary smelter," she told us. "We do know that primary lead is being imported to the U.S., but we don’t know if it is specific to ammunition suppliers. ... There are many other uses of lead." This plant still produces your bullets, even though you said you cannot get them
originally posted by: seasonal
Ok, secondary production is recycling lead. Primary is taking ore and making lead. We no longer make lead.
originally posted by: seasonal
No semantics, if we are at any sort of sustained war, guess what happens. And a dirty little secret is that when I shoot my rifle and i do not retrieve the bullet that lead is gone forever.
Just between you and I, are you ready to say we (the US) makes no lead, to make means from ore to finished lead ingots?
originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: Metallicus
Time to rebuild America and get back to a point where we even export anything again before this becomes a concern for us.
So where is the money going to come from if he cuts taxes? He wants tax cuts for companies (real shocker) and cut taxes for the wealthy so where is the money going to come from? Does he have the magic money fairy on speed dial?
'The two greatest political figures of the last 60 years gave us the model we need'
In February 1964, the Kennedy tax-rate cut won Congressional approval and became law. As Kennedy’s tax-rate-cut, strong dollar economic policy was being articulated and then implemented in the latter half of the presidency, the nation embarked upon an eight-and-a-half year, uninterrupted run of growth at just over 5% per year. Rarely have campaign promises, especially one so bold as to double the long-term rate of economic growth, been so comprehensively fulfilled.
Reagan said repeatedly that his own tax cuts were taken from the Kennedy model. And also like Kennedy, Reagan stayed away from name-calling, snark, and demonization, using the art of persuasion to get tax-cut opponents to come over to his side. Reagan’s method worked stupendously, as had Kennedy’s. The major tax-rate cut of 1986, which took the top income tax rate down to a five-decade low of 28%, passed the Senate 97-3, as the nation enjoyed a long run of growth comfortably over 4% per year.
The Kennedy-Reagan policy mix of tax-rate cuts in the context of a strong dollar remains untried in the 21st century, a now nearly 16-year period of unprecedented economic sluggishness. The two greatest political figures of the last 60 years gave us the model we need today, to set our great nation back in its natural groove of growth again.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: seasonal
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GO try to but 22 long rifle, not available.
Yeah, okay:
First website that came up when I typed '22lr'. That enough for you?
originally posted by: seasonal
It is available...
10 Years ago you could buy a 500 round box for 7.00
also an auto battery was 45$ now it is well over 100$
seems like something has pushed this price up.
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: infolurker
Is it the secondary lead that is pushing the price up, or is it collusion between manufactures? Or is there another reason for the cost of this to be so high?
originally posted by: seasonal
All this is nice, but I tend to agree with Trump that these corps have to have incentives to stay here in the US. If it is tariffs, so be it. Kinda a long read, it gives a history of tariffs and how the US used to pay for an awful lot of things.
Those who forget history.....
Before the Income Tax
www.thenewamerican.com...
And very soon, the Chinese/Indian lead is going to enter or is already into the material stream.