India Permits Free Energy Technology Despite Threats From UK, US, Saudi Arabia

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
I think many things are possible that are yet to be discovered.

I'm sure there are. But perpetual motion machines are unlikely to be one of them.

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
Could the Sun be considered free energy, if there were a way to harness it? (Besides solar power) Magnetic fields or gravity? Who knows.

The Sun uses fusion. We understand that one. Gravity, no free power there. Magnetic fields, not there either.

originally posted by: LABTECH767

Every heard of Vacuum energy or as it is more commonly referred to Zero Point energy, now this is not a sale's pitch it does actually exist and there is more energy in the space of a single atom than all the atom bomb's going off at once...

Not so much so far.

Now if we had some form of Membrane that could harvest only one polarity (And there may be potentially far more than two in this energy which by it's nature self cancel's on the macro scale), like a quantum diode or one way valve if you like that could focus a particular field of this energy then we could perhaps then translate it into a form which we could harvest at the macro scalar level but unfortunately we at least officially do not yet possess that ability.

See also: Feynman's ratchet. Maxwell's Demons and Johnson noise rectifiers don't work and for a reason.

Free Energy = No, even if you somehow violate our current laws of physics
Wireless Energy = Yes, however very inefficient.

The excuse of a Military response if this invention was shared? Implausible; A youtube video with the data, a text/pdf/image file with the data spread to several servers around the world would have 10s of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people grab it within minutes of uploading it, even after it was removed or the core servers for the internet in the US were shutdown it would be in vain as it has already spread like a cold virus modified with the plague.

No conspiracy here, only lies.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: onehuman
a reply to: Vector99
Well, if you think about, there are a LOT of things " there wasn't," that now are. Electricity, phone, computers, and cars just for a few examples.

I think free energy is just another form waiting to be discovered. Besides, I thought Tesla had discovered it long ago, but it all disappeared with his papers when he died.

I bet it has been discovered and buried. Can't have those oil tycoons going to the poor house now can we?

You cant have "free energy" . It is a myth and a scam . To have that type of free energy , you would have to violate most of the rules of nature and physics
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Are you suggesting that our understanding and rules of physics is complete and exhaustive?

originally posted by: Salander
Are you suggesting that our understanding and rules of physics is complete and exhaustive?

Nope, but some things have been pretty much mined out, and thus are called 'laws'. If you want to challenge them, you have to have more than a conjecture.

One of these is the concept of "free energy". It's so cut and dried at this point, you can base other laws of physics on it not existing, and pretty much any engineering, just by assuming there isn't any.

I don't believe in impossibilities but for now "free energy" is just a concept of ideas on how it could work, not a reality, yet.

If free energy does exist it's probably under some military (black project) hidden underground or in some kind of instillation, not for the rest of us to see.

a reply to: nerbot

I wont get into Tesla but this

If there was already a source of free energy in the world that we could observe as inspiration then perhaps we wouldn't still be scratching around in the dark.

We did observe the Sun as inspiration and now we have Solar Power generation, so your statement is meh!

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: nerbot

I wont get into Tesla but this

If there was already a source of free energy in the world that we could observe as inspiration then perhaps we wouldn't still be scratching around in the dark.

We did observe the Sun as inspiration and now we have Solar Power generation, so your statement is meh!

Solar power comes from nuclear fusion. So there's a source. It doesn't come from nothing. "free energy" as used by perpetual motion enthusiasts means energy from nowhere, although they'll generally try to pin it on vacuum energy or dark energy to obfuscate their dependence on a perpetuum mobile as a prime mover.

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: onehuman

Free Energy tech simply doesn't and can't exist.

It's not free energy, it's merely drawing energy from sources that we don't know about yet. Just like the naysayers who said that man would never fly or that the atom would never be split.

Never Say Never.

originally posted by: gernblan
Just like the naysayers who said that man would never fly or that the atom would never be split.

Yet who did that? Mystics? Nope.

eta: and you can't come up with a single valid source of someone "who did that", other sources or no.

a reply to: Vector99

Uh that's because science changes and things that were considereal "free energy" "zero point" or any other exotic energy source get definitions and clarity when they become quantum entanglement or virtual photons.

The point is more exotic forms of energy are fighting a couple hundred billion of annual global tax payers money spent on oil and gas subsidies, grants, and loby power.

originally posted by: luthier
"zero point" or any other exotic energy source get definitions and clarity when they become quantum entanglement or virtual photons.

Let's see you come up with a real energy source involving quantum entanglement or virtual photons.

Not that you can't get some really amazing # out of both of those, but it doesn't involve novel energy sources.

a reply to: Bedlam

Sure just fund the universities already working on zero point energy concepts with the 43 billion we spend on oil subsidies and see what happens.

The Casimir effect and vitual particles, zero point energy are all actual things being research by actual physicists as energy potential.

originally posted by: luthier

The Casimir effect and vitual particles, zero point energy are all actual things being research by actual physicists as energy potential.

Yes, and none of them have produced any energy, nor do they indicate they ever will.

You can do some really unexpected things with virtual photons, though.

a reply to: Bedlam

That is not true.

Heat baths for instance have been found to exploit certain parts of the law of thermodynamics.

There are several papers showing energy produced as a possibility.

if that is true then what are they going to do with these


are they going to scrap them

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Bedlam

That is not true.

Heat baths for instance have been found to exploit certain parts of the law of thermodynamics.

There are several papers showing energy produced as a possibility.

Citation needed.

a reply to: Dr UAE

even if if the " free energy " delusion were true - it would not make refineries obsolete

crude oil provides the " feedstock " for a vast aray of chemicals and products that we depend on every day

and no ammounmt of free energy is going to change that

the fact that free energy advocates dont grasp this - is rather sad

a reply to: ignorant_ape

For what, look it up. It's not new that there is potential energy.

I am not claiming an artifact just there are several ways energy is theorIzed.