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Back in the days van Däniken was diagnosed with mental illness and hospitalised, because of his theories.
originally posted by: frenchfries
a reply to: neutronflux
dry river beds and canyons seemed to indicate that water had once existed on the Martian surface
had... once existed ... past tense not now.... now (1971) not a drop...
Observing canals on mars was not a facilitated hoax
canals full of water that was considered a hoax! the canals were accepted but no the water. Schiaparelli even theoryzed that there was a civilization on mars. the book war of the worlds was based on his believes....
And you are only ranting. Still have not proven people were skeptical of the presence of water ice on mars.
I just find it ironic for you to call persons performing observations to the best of their abilities, that were hopeful for the presence of water and an alien spices on mars, conspiring to facilitate a hoax.
An April 4, 1969, story in TIME debated the question: “Contemporary scientists have been far less convinced that Mars has water,” the article noted. “They believe that the caps consist not of snow or ice but largely of frozen carbon dioxide,
An April 4, 1969, story in TIME debated the question: “Contemporary scientists have been far less convinced that Mars has water,”
By 1976, scientists had changed their minds again
In more recent years, the evidence has continued to flood in. By 2000, the Mars Global Surveyor,
Especially when modern individuals and ufologiest have been exposed for conveying false narratives of alien visitation for personal profit.
What proof do you have of possible interstellar space travel and ancient aliens?
originally posted by: frenchfries
Look I'm not saying that there is no water on mars... just that science has ridiculed that as a real posibility in the past. and Schiaparelli turned out to be a hoaxer
pfff... talking about oceans/water on mars in the 70's well you might end up in the loony bin
One, where did I ever clain there was oceans of water on mars.
Two, there was never a time in the 60s or 70s if you suggest water or water ice was present in the Martian soil you would be ridiculed or placed in the loony......
And there is not a fat statistical chance we have been visited because there are only a few options for practical space travel.
The Stargate Conspiracy:
An essential part of this plot is the alleged link between ancient Egypt and a lost civilization on Mars, based on the discovery of supposedly artificial features on that planet. We show that this view is seriously flawed, and that the intelligence agencies are actively encouraging the promotion of a meaningful Egypt-Mars connection.
This group, which has existed for almost fifty years, has included many famous names, multimillionaires and cutting-edge scientists. It has also, disturbingly, had a profound influence on the decision-making of certain world leaders...
(The Main): Eventually the hyperboreans became divided into 2 groups that started to fight. Sol 4 now better known as Mars attacked sol 5 the old Tia-mat. Tia-mat was completely destroyed , lost forever. Mars lost it's atmosphere and with it all it's oceans due to some superwapon. They actually tried to cut that beautiful planet in half.... (The Main,almost crying): Believe me I begged the Architect on my both my knees to recreate the planets but he simply wouldn't do it. (The Main,): From that time on Earth was the only planet in the solar-system that had sentient live. I became furious ! I was like a father that wanted to punish his children. I had no love in my being and did a horrible thing... (Mr Smith,calm voice): So what did you do sir... (The Main): I gave them a simple choice : Fight again and be destroyed or live in peace and be loved. To strengthen my argument I created the second moon in orbit of Earth , the morning star. Every hyperborean on earth could see that moon and as long as it was in orbit there was peace. (Mr Smith): So Earth had 2 moons ? (The Main): Indeed , it was the proverbial sword of Damocles. I would crash it on earth if a war broke out. Poor Hyperboreans living in fear for many centuries.
However if even a single encounter was the result of contact with an Alien civilisation.
Then Statistically it follows that there have been contacts in the past....
You should read the book before you quote it.
The book is about the conspiracy, not about what may or may not have happened in the remote past.
originally posted by: Violater1
Walk with this kook for a minute.
What if these "aliens" have been here since almost the beginning.
What if the asteroid belt was actually a planet at one time called Rehob.
What if these inhabitants had migrated to Mars as well.
When Rehob was destroyed, it's mass showered down onto Mars, destroying the
atmosphere and obliterating it's surface. What if the Rehobians were then thrust down to Earth
where they began their resettlement, eons before man.
What if they are the architects of Puma Punku, the Pyramids and Kailasa Temple.
What if they enslaved man, and continue to influence his behavior.
What if they have the ability to be here in the present, as well as having the ability to go forward and backwards in time on a limited basis. This present state would also allow them to slip or see time to there left or right, up or down spherically.
An example would be if they were traveling up above (maybe 45,000 ft). As they traverse the sky, they would be aware of EVERYTHING going on around them spherically in the physical realm as well as dimensionly.
As they would fly across the sky, they may see something or someone of interest to them. The person may view this as a bright light coming towards them. As the "alien" would approach, their ship would slip back and forth examining the the "what if" interaction with that human. If the time lines looked safe to it, it would "interact." If for some reason, the situation would allow hazards documentation of it's encounter, it could then either proceed, and wipe out all video or evidence by altering the time line, or either allow some documentation, or just leave the person alone, and look for another opportunity.
Is that kooky enough for you?
I'm not sure where you think you are getting that logic from. At some point there is always a first...