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All Normal US-Russian Channels of Cooperation 'Frozen' - Ambassador

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posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 12:54 AM
I never get the point of cutting diplomatic contact.

Surely in times of tensions communication is needed more than ever?!?!

posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 01:04 AM
a reply to: crazyewok

They're not actually cut, certain topics are off the table and the lower pions in government communicate instead of the decision makers. Example - the space program is not cut, but buying Russian oil exports is cut from communications (for the time being).

posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 02:19 AM

originally posted by: Jason88
a reply to: elementalgrove

It's partially apathy that has caused this, though Americans are exhausted. Worked to the bone, don't take vacations, worry about mortgages & bills, are fed constant doom & gloom thru their chosen entertainment medium, they don't see their families enough... Americans are mentally spent. To blame this condition entirely on apathy short changes millions of decent people who literally cannot catch a break, let alone prevent WWIII in their spare time.

You are correct in your assessment as to what has led to the apathy.

All of these conditions have been slowly accepted due to our own collective willingness to be indoctrinated into such a state. It is not to say that Americans are not "decent" for most truly are. With good intentions in their lives, with concerns of family and friends at the forefront of their consciousness.

However, when your government is committing atrocities across the globe. Using profits that are stolen from the people and creating the very conditions you describe... it is not a matter of choice to change the system, it is a matter of duty.

While we spare our own struggles that it would take to change the system, countries around the globe have suffered, economically as well as horrifically from the onslaught of profitable Military Industrial Complex armaments.

We have the ability to research what is happening. People are choosing not to and if these people continue to allow their exhausted state to allow them to remain blind as to the reality of what is happening in our name, then it just may be time to for our karma to catch up to us.

You only get so many chances to changed direction in your own personal life when making self destructive choice, I suppose collectively we are faced with the same moral imperative.

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posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 03:11 AM
As time advances this cold war is getting hotter while people get colder.

posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 04:32 AM

originally posted by: Jason88
a reply to: crazyewok

They're not actually cut, certain topics are off the table and the lower pions in government communicate instead of the decision makers. Example - the space program is not cut, but buying Russian oil exports is cut from communications (for the time being).

Which is still petty and stupid.

You dont get anywere by not talking.

posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 04:38 AM
The breadcrumbs leading in all directions , great analogy .

Keep speculating , suddenly a jigsaw becomes a picture , not many maybe not anyone knows what the picture will be . The G7 , security council , when co-operation stops across this table > wait for that one , G7 split .

If you go by prophecy , or at least include its influence via its simple presence which we don't anymore on the whole , a clearer picture may or may not develop .

No matter what th muliple Nostradamus websites say now , it used to be that he predicted Russia v US in world war 3 beginning in Syria . And that is true , not made up .

As for the Bible , its bigger trouble , unfortunately . (Luckily theres aGOd if you beleive in that though) .

The Bible says the war at the end of the world will begin whence 'they' have gathered themselves together at Armageddon .
Now a bit of biblical research reveals that Armageddon is the mountains in Syria , kind of between Israel and Syria . Amageddon means , in English , 'the high places of troops' . Make of that what you will .

Just mentioning the unmentionable here though , what about Israels role in all of this ? Well the Bible says its up to God whether they get sacked by the surrounding nations , as in , once and for all , or if they get forgiven and everything is happy days instead , because of their repentance , to which they (Israel) are exhorted . Both scenarios are highly elucidated , underlining the power of God only's decisions in the end .

In other speculation maybe ... Putin &co. is dog sick of everything Clinton , including their puppet Obama . Hence he backs Trump , for a clean fresh start , and if the Clintons carry on in November things (on topic) may degrade .. :/

posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 11:27 AM
a reply to: ZIPMATT

Don't forget the war of Ezekiel 38 and 39 with Gog and MaGog. For as long as i remember (for primarily for linguistic and anthropological reasons) Gog/Magog has been interpreted as Russia and her allies, namely Iran, Syria, and oddly Turkey. Turkey is especially interesting since as a NATO member would be against Russia, but Putin's latest in roads put them squarely in their camp I think.

And Ez 38 or 39 is usually (but not always) interpreted as BEFORE the battle of Armageddon, and not normally the battle itself.

Interesting times......

posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 11:31 AM
Is the election show!
just to keep the poeples minds off Syria?

posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 11:32 AM
a reply to: Profusion
Obviously Russia wants the West to be scared of the consequences of confrontation and back down on issues like Syria.
This is Putin's Munich crisis.
The timing is partly controlled by the fact that America is distracted on internal affairs.

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posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 01:37 PM
IMeversoHO, more likely "inside job" nuke attack ...
Ruskies now being set up to be [naturally] blamed.
Maybe some Russian complicity.

posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 01:42 PM

originally posted by: teslahowitzer
a reply to: Profusion With everything the last few administrations have done worldwide, not just the ME, I can maybe understand a part of why the ruskies are a little ticked... Our "leaders" have really moved the goalpost around so to speak. This ME strategy looks almost suicidal, thanks to Barry, the history of the ME is sad as a whole, how can we solve this is seemingly impossible, Maybe Trump can fix this, no politician has.......

The russians were pissed when nato rejected putin's attempt to join. That was the start of the current situation.

posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 02:47 PM
a reply to: Profusion

It's funny (kind of, kind of not) - "The Sum Of All Fears" (where Russia and US are turned against one another with nuclear warheads being activated) was on TV on the AMC channel today.

I really do think this is loads and loads of propaganda, but also that the lunatics in charge could possibly take it to the next step and continue escalating the situation. It's not good.

posted on Oct, 12 2016 @ 10:16 PM
There's a high chance that provocations could take place, to foment a war between Russia and the US, by certain European and middle eastern countries.
It is fundamental that in the event of such provocative incidents, the US makes the right choice by not capitulating to provocateurs, and sends a clear and message to them.

The trick here's to keep a few (about 5) minuteman missiles ready to go to these targets: Rome, Berlin, London, Paris and Istanbul

posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:31 AM
Fact is, with the way the West is treating Russia and blaming it for many of the ills in the middle-east, it is hardly surprising that Putin is positioning to protect Russian interests and allies...he simply has no choice, he has to respond to the provocations, and in the most explicit manner he can.

What is more frightening is the quality and calibre of the candidates for presidential office. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel! I mean just wow! This comes down to the American people, and how they have allowed such dross candidates to reach the higher echelons of power and authority. I'm convinced that the political and financial elite decided long ago that Clinton was to be the next president, and I am not persuaded to think elsewise.

The US and Russia situation is going to require extreme caution and some very real diplomatic manoeuvring, particularly on the issues of Syria and the Ukraine. Conflict between Russia and the US is a very real possibility because the wrong people (in the US) will be in the wrong positions to be able to handle the situation.

Be under no illusion at all, Putin is more than ready to go to war with the US, even knowing that Russia would be destroyed in the process. Putin knows, though, that Russia's destruction will mean the equal destruction of the US and reduce it to less than a credible threat to anyone for decades to come, leaving it open to an invasion mop up from the South. If Russia is going down, it will take most of the Northern Hemisphere with it.

No matter how you calculate your chances of effective survival, if the bombs and missiles fall (which I am sure will please a few of the deranged), you will experience bowel movements of earthquake magnitudes. The visceral reality of the horror of the decimation of main land America will affect you in ways you are not remotely considering right now. The psychological factor alone at what you will experience will place you into a deep state of constant depression.

Even if you prudently prepare for the possibility of conflict, all your preparations will eventually become exhausted, and that is assuming you and any of your loved ones survive relatively unscathed physically and without disease, which is unlikely. You will eventually have to go on the move for new supplies. Let's be realistic here, you won't have any aid at all. What you will have is a level of struggle for survival for which you have no experience at have no frame of reference. On many occasions, you will contemplate self-euthanasia as a practical 'best-option', and if you have loved ones in tow...well, let us say that the situation will be appalling indeed.
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