Final Warnings, Listen to them.

a reply to: WanderingNomadd

If you can't tell the difference then that is on you.

I'm not going to kneel and kiss your ring just because you feel self-righteous.

a reply to: daskakik

Well if you cant see the infraction on free speech that is on you.

Not my ring lol your masters.

My thoughts are not your thoughts, my ways are not your ways, I am, I can coexist with you in harmony, if you let me be.

Could a cohesive one world government run by humans with all the power this brings tolerate me or would they feel compelled to shape my thoughts, governments always punch down, corruption means you could never trust it.

Where could I run to if the whole planet is governed by one authority where could I hypotheticaly seek asylum under this system.

Where is Liberty

originally posted by: WanderingNomadd
Well if you cant see the infraction on free speech that is on you.

Not all infractions on free speech have to do with the 1st amendment.

Like it was pointed out before, the Bill of rights is a limit on what government can do. You are wrong if you think it applies to private citizens. Yes, you clutched at the DNC being government but no political party is government.

Not my ring lol your masters.

I know what you meant. I was pointing out that your little passive aggressive potshots did not go unnoticed and you tossing them out there makes you just as bad as those you are criticizing.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Is that what they're doing? If you can prove that I'll be convinced to join your side.

That's hard to prove if you aren't open to believing the MSM. I can easily show the UN charter and things like that, but if you are already predisposed to just distrust the UN or distrust things like the Gates Foundation then there is no point.

I see people like Soros, the things he's been a part of, and that he's the number one globalist and I just, nope I don't see it.

See. This is what I'm talking about. Soros has become the latest "Rothchilde" buzzword for CTers. Just blankly call him out based on his media presence (I'm assuming his negative press in right wing media doesn't help either) without even addressing anything that he did.

But besides, Soros is just one person. He doesn't own the world. He doesn't even own the country. The Koch brothers are ideologically opposed to everything Soros stands for AND they are richer and spend more trying to get their political will enforced. It's called balance.

If Soros wasn't in the picture as well as others similar, I might be easier to convince. But maybe I'm wrong, show me please how the people in charge of this are worth putting my trust in.

If Soros wasn't in the picture, you'd be complaining about some other rich dude without concrete evidence of his "evilness".

Yes but isnt it telling the Koch brothers are sitting this one out!?!? Wonder why? Surely had a Bush been the GOPnominee their position would have been different! Soros, Kochs, and the other elites are in bed and basically that mean that most Americans are screwed!

a reply to: daskakik

Listen, I completely understand what the other guy said, That the 1st amendment prevents congress writing laws in opposition to protected freedom of speech type rights. But freedom of speech is a right and it should never been infringed either by written laws; or just enforced outside of the law, which is what happened in that video and happens all over the western world.

Teachers are no longer allowed to call students boys or girls anymore, Flags are not allowed to be displayed, religious rights are being subdued (I am not religious). Books and writings are having words like mankind changed to humanity or persons. Its insane.

Grown ass men are allowed to go into womens bathrooms with underage girls. Its sick. The world has gone mad and everyone thinks it is progressive when really we are being limited more and more everyday.

The president is now allowed to assassinate citizens he deems to be a terrorist. Do you know what constitutes a terrorist or a domestic terrorist in the US? Lots. Protesters are terrorists.

I watch the world go by, I see everything happen around me and I cant help thinking where does it end. One race, One religion, One government, One currency, One law book, One book of privellegs(rights), and an end to individual rights and freedoms.

Instead of people its of the institution, by the institution, for the institution. This isn't moving in a positive direction for the common people, its moving against them under a thin veil of manipulation. You just have to forget what you believe and start from scratch. Once you let go of patriotism, "society", Ism's and the previous propaganda it becomes clear something isn't right.

originally posted by: WanderingNomadd
But freedom of speech is a right and it should never been infringed either by written laws; or just enforced outside of the law, which is what happened in that video and happens all over the western world.

And that is where you are starting off on the wrong foot.

What makes freedom of speech a right?

A bunch of things in the list you posted don't have anything to do with freedom of speech, let alone the 1st.

a reply to: daskakik

Freedom of expression is considered freedom of speech. Taking signs, removing you from the party because we dont like your views, putting you under blacklight with whitenoise so you cannot be seen or heard...All infringements on your freedom of speech, expression and opinion.

originally posted by: WanderingNomadd
Freedom of expression is considered freedom of speech. Taking signs, removing you from the party because we dont like your views, putting you under blacklight with whitenoise so you cannot be seen or heard...All infringements on your freedom of speech, expression and opinion.

The question was, what makes it a right?

Also drowning you out because they don't want to hear you is not an infringement. Nobody is obliged to listen to you.

a reply to: pl3bscheese

It's a huge fear of many people I know, because of the religious implications. I am always the devil's advocate in conversation about this subject with them, because I can look past that...but it's a difficult thing to do for people who have been heavily indoctrinated their entire lives.

I think there will always be the "elite" in this world...humans are too power hungry for it to be any other way. But for the vast majority, who are not of that status, something needs to give. It is ridiculous that in 2016, in a world of such excess and convenience, people are still going without. It makes no sense to me.

The reticence of people for cultural or religious reasons, I can understand. But everyone else just comes across as being selfish and unwilling to share with others...and that is a big part of why we've got such an imbalance in the first place. People are so worried about materialistic things. The mentality is badly skewed.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I wonder what the criteria are for being considered one of these elite. It seems so vague and open-ended. Like a list of scapegoats that anyone can be placed on, should they fall under whatever unspoken requirements fit the bill for some reason. More of the "them vs. us" mentality that is doing no one any good.

originally posted by: WanderingNomadd
a reply to: daskakik

Freedom of expression is considered freedom of speech. Taking signs, removing you from the party because we dont like your views, putting you under blacklight with whitenoise so you cannot be seen or heard...All infringements on your freedom of speech, expression and opinion.

Do you need a ticket to get into the DNC?
When you take the ticket you enter into a contract , they let you attend, you follow their rules. Much like a theater. It is a PRIVATE event. You have no right to disrupt the event, they get to decide what a disruption is. You surrender some of your rights to attend.
However the Free Speech zones away from the event are a different story. Those are crap. One has a right to peaceably protest on public land.(like the sidewalks or easements to the arena the DNC was held in).

originally posted by: tigertatzen
But everyone else just comes across as being selfish and unwilling to share with others...

One thing I have noticed and it's about americans, not bashing just an observation, is that many will talk about how great the US system is, at least in comparison to other systems but, the same system being applied in the form of the UN suddenly becomes the worst thing ever.

The reason I bring it up in response to your post is because it almost seems like they don't want to share the system that has worked so well for them with others. Good thing is that it's being adopted. About 70% of the countries in the world are constitutional republics. They may not all be doing it right but at least they're trying.

a reply to: mazzroth

So its a movie huh???

a reply to: daskakik

The question was, what makes it a right?

The laws of nature make it a right. Don't deem to dictate what is right and what is wrong. If you want to get technical freedom of speech, expression and such is a worldwide accepted right, even if people dont notice it being taken. Your view is irrelevant in terms of the collective.

Also drowning you out because they don't want to hear you is not an infringement. Nobody is obliged to listen to you.

No one is obliged to listen to you at a democratic election where your opinions should matter most? How you got 6k stars talking this nonsense Ill never know.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Yeah and we saw them caged and the news avoid them. Keep believing the system is worth defending.

a reply to: daskakik

A highly effective defense...obviously.
Violence Solves another one.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Through history. there has always been someplace to run to if things got bad. Where will you escape to if we have a one world government that is totalitarian? Thats one reason I can think of off the top of my head never to have one. I am sure there are many others.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: WanderingNomadd

I've always wondered. What's so bad about a one world government/the NWO? Why is it supposedly bad for such a thing to exist? Does anyone know?

Yes, I do. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with a one-world gov't, except for WHO they want to RUN that gov't, and how they want to run it--with an elite group in power, and the rest of us 'little people' at their beck and call.

THAT'S the problem. Just look at the nefarious means they have been using to CREATE their 'one-world' gov't! The wars, the numerous false-flags, the blatant lies, the shrug at millions murdered. These people do not care one whit about justice, or fair-play. They are all freaking INSANE. As anyone discovers once you start to research what is really going on, and who is behind it.

Do you think the fact that Dennis Hastert, the ex-Speaker of the House, was outed as a pedophile is a coincidence? What, with all the other pedophiles and sexual deviants that have been discovered in Congress in the last 20+ years? Read the two books about the Franklin Scandal, which PROVE that parts of the Federal Gov't, DoD, CIA and FBI have been involved in child trafficking, and using said children to blackmail politicians in political parties! This is not some 'conspiracy theory'. It's conspiracy FACT that has been buried by the above people, which shows the kind of power they wield in this shadow gov't.

If you are still not convinced, then do some research on 'The Finders CIA Tallahassee', where you will discover, beyond a shadow of a doubt that the CIA is involved in child porn and child trafficking, and actively squelched an investigation by the DC police, citing 'national security'. Right.

If that's not enough, do some research into Jimmy Savile, and his close relationship to Prince Charles, the Queen, and Margaret Thatcher. Or of ex-prime minister Edward Heath, who was outed as a murderous pedophile, taking children from the orphanage, Haute de la Guerenne, out on his sailboat, and coming back to land WITHOUT THEM. Or the evidence that Savile liked to diddly with dead bodies and was a Satanist, as was Heath. And there are a TON MORE British politicians that have been outed and accused of pedophilia.

And of course, it continues here. Just read about David Epstein, and his nefarious use of this Bahamas island, and his mansion in Florida, that when police raided the place, discovered hidden cameras IN EVERY ROOM. You think that was for what? Burglars? And the fact that people like BIll Clinton and that shyster lawyer Alan Dershowitz. All of these people are part of the 'elite', and what they do when you are not looking would make your toes curl. We are talking complete evil.

I mean, haven't you ever wondered why we jumped from the whole Cold War thing, to terrorism? It's all an act, meant to inspire fear, uncertainty and doubt. Do you really think our gov't cares about terrorists, when they've had completely open borders for the last 20+ years? What they DON'T TELL YOU is that you have a better chance of being struck by ten bolts of lightning, at ONCE, than you ever would of being harmed by a terrorist. Yet, how much airtime has 'terrorism' rec'd? How many tens of billions of dollars have been thrown at the *woowoo* 'terrorist problem'??

It's a freaking scam. And if you look at what the FBI has done for the last 16 years, is basically goad unhappy teenagers into buying bomb equipment from them so they can charge them with terrorism. They have NOT PREVENTED ONE IOTA of a terrorist act since the whole 'terror' thing started! In fact, they were asked in court by a judge to give him just ONE EXAMPLE of stopping a terrorist act in their whole history! And the FBI lawyers hit the lawbooks, but could come up with NOTHING. The judge then threw out the case. Of course, you don't ever hear about these court cases...

Just like you're not hearing about the current court case going on in Virginia, where the CIA is being sued for fomenting wars in other countries. There is not ONE 'journalist' from mainstream media in that courtroom. And that is by design.

One last thing I want to leave you with. There is an organization that has been associated with the United Nations, since their inception. The name of that organization is 'The Lucis Trust'. Now, the Lucis Trust is responsible for ALL UN PRINTING, and has been since inception. They even have OBSERVER status in the UN.

And guess what the original name of The Lucis Trust was? The Lucifer Trust. Don't believe me. Look it up yourself. lucistrust.org. And if you think all that is just a benign coincidence, well, you're a lot more naive than I am anymore. This is something that if someone had told me this 5 years ago, I would have laughed and said they were crazy. After 5 years of researching this, and reading hundreds of books (like 'FDR My Manipulated Father-in-Law'...read it and be shocked. You can find a copy of it free online. Read the interview at the end with the ex-Admiral in charge of Pearl Harbor when it was attacked), I no longer believe it is some coincidence.

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: WanderingNomadd
a reply to: daskakik

Freedom of expression is considered freedom of speech. Taking signs, removing you from the party because we dont like your views, putting you under blacklight with whitenoise so you cannot be seen or heard...All infringements on your freedom of speech, expression and opinion.

Do you need a ticket to get into the DNC?
When you take the ticket you enter into a contract , they let you attend, you follow their rules. Much like a theater. It is a PRIVATE event. You have no right to disrupt the event, they get to decide what a disruption is. You surrender some of your rights to attend.
However the Free Speech zones away from the event are a different story. Those are crap. One has a right to peaceably protest on public land.(like the sidewalks or easements to the arena the DNC was held in).

Well, yeah. In a fair world. But when you've sweated for your candidate for months if not years, and then discover along the way, that in places like Iowa they do SEVEN FLIPS OF A COIN for seven different counties to decide a winner and Clinton WINS EVERY ONE, then in NY, they discover that hundreds of thousands of voters have had their designation changed to independent so they can't vote, and in Arizona they discover that while in 2012, they had THOUSANDS of voting places, that all of a sudden there are only 200 hundred or so, and most of the mail in voters were Clinton votes, and then in Nevada....you know I'm not going to rehash every single freaking crime the DNC has perped in that primary.

But for someone to try to point out a freaking 'rule' in a convention, when the WHOLE STINKING THING has been rigged, you have some nerve to bring up some stupid rule when HUNDREDS of delegates were screwed over, and MILLIONS OF VOTERS were given the middle-freaking-finger! There are a LOT OF PI$$ED OFF DEMOCRATS in this country, and rightly so.

Especially after Assange released the email from the DNC that PROVE BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT the collusion of the DNC and mainstream media to get their candidate nominated.

I mean, seriously. WTFU. That's a weak argument, and not one you'd have the balls to say in front of a Democratic delegate that worked so hard only to find that the whole system was rigged against them from the start. SMH.