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Trumps tide has turned

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posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 07:47 AM
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There was a lot of emphasis on the black vote in the video above and also an emphasis on inner cities..
LA Times reported yesterday a closing in the race to Clinton +1, from +4 the day before..

More importantly there has been a big spike amongst black voters saying they will vote Trump.. now up to 14.1% from 4% previously...


edit on 17/8/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 07:48 AM
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Trump will win mark my words the tide has turned just wait until the debates..



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 08:09 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

You do realise that more American soldiers died in WW2 than British right?


No they didn't.


According to The National WWII Museum

Military deaths
United Kingdom 383,600
United States 416,800

www.nationalww2museum.org...://www.google.co.uk/



Oh so what you really meant to say was the United Kingdom.

You might want to edit your post because its currently incorrect.



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 08:25 AM
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originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

You do realise that more American soldiers died in WW2 than British right?


No they didn't.


According to The National WWII Museum

Military deaths
United Kingdom 383,600
United States 416,800

www.nationalww2museum.org...://www.google.co.uk/



Oh so what you really meant to say was the United Kingdom.

You might want to edit your post because its currently incorrect.


Erm, the UK's official name is actually The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Which British soldiers that died do you think are excluded from the numbers?



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

So, do/did WWII soldiers who hailed from Northern Ireland consider themselves British? Because you said "British Soldiers"? Just saying, seems like you're moving the goal posts.



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 08:53 AM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

So, do/did WWII soldiers who hailed from Northern Ireland consider themselves British? Because you said "British Soldiers"? Just saying, seems like you're moving the goal posts.


The UK includes Northern Ireland.
As I said - more American soldiers died during WW2 than British soldiers. I'll leave my goalposts where they are.
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posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

You do realise that more American soldiers died in WW2 than British right?


No they didn't.


According to The National WWII Museum

Military deaths
United Kingdom 383,600
United States 416,800

www.nationalww2museum.org...://www.google.co.uk/



Oh so what you really meant to say was the United Kingdom.

You might want to edit your post because its currently incorrect.


Erm, the UK's official name is actually The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Which British soldiers that died do you think are excluded from the numbers?


Did I ask what the UK's official name was?

Can you only be British if you are from the United Kingdom?



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Can you explain to me why, on THIS Wikipedia source, Ireland's stats are separate from the UK stats under the "Human losses by country" category, as it displays the Irish Flag?

Do Irish men and women identify as Irish or British?




edit on 17-8-2016 by windword because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: metamagic

Please don't give up on us and condemn us yet! There's a lot at stake and there are a myriad of competing forces battling for domination in and control of the U.S. Things may look grim but it's not over!

In my view, Donald, no matter what one thinks of him, lit a fire under a lot of people, people who'd become apathetic or completely cynical.




posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

You do realise that more American soldiers died in WW2 than British right?


No they didn't.


According to The National WWII Museum

Military deaths
United Kingdom 383,600
United States 416,800

www.nationalww2museum.org...://www.google.co.uk/



Oh so what you really meant to say was the United Kingdom.

You might want to edit your post because its currently incorrect.


Erm, the UK's official name is actually The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Which British soldiers that died do you think are excluded from the numbers?


Did I ask what the UK's official name was?

Can you only be British if you are from the United Kingdom?



The Commonwealth War Graves Commission reported a total of 383,758 military dead from all causes for both the UK and non-dominion British colonies, figures include identified burials and those commemorated by name on memorials.These figures include deaths that occurred after the war up until 31 December 1947[563]


The British colony soldiers killed were included in the UK numbers.



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

Can you explain to me why, on THIS Wikipedia source, Ireland's stats are separate from the UK stats under the "Human losses by country" category, as it displays the Irish Flag?

Do Irish men and women identify as Irish or British?





Yes i can - the Republic of Ireland is a different country to Northern Ireland and not part of the UK. It is therefore not included in UK stats, the same way as Russian deaths are not.
As for the question on how Northen Irish people identify themselves (which is I think what you meant), in Northern Ireland it is varied. Some see themselves as British through and through, others see themselves as Irish. More tend to see themselves as British.

www.independent.ie...

We're off topic a bit here.



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:20 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth




The British colony soldiers killed were included in the UK numbers.


Are you including Australia, Canada, India, etc., or just the British Isles? I didn't know that Ireland is considered a British Colony.
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posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:22 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: UKTruth

You do realise that more American soldiers died in WW2 than British right?


No they didn't.


According to The National WWII Museum

Military deaths
United Kingdom 383,600
United States 416,800

www.nationalww2museum.org...://www.google.co.uk/



Oh so what you really meant to say was the United Kingdom.

You might want to edit your post because its currently incorrect.


Erm, the UK's official name is actually The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Which British soldiers that died do you think are excluded from the numbers?


Did I ask what the UK's official name was?

Can you only be British if you are from the United Kingdom?



The Commonwealth War Graves Commission reported a total of 383,758 military dead from all causes for both the UK and non-dominion British colonies, figures include identified burials and those commemorated by name on memorials.These figures include deaths that occurred after the war up until 31 December 1947[563]


The British colony soldiers killed were included in the UK numbers.


Were they? Strange they didn't include the Burma or British Raj figures.



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:22 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
There was a lot of emphasis on the black vote in the video above and also an emphasis on inner cities..
LA Times reported yesterday a closing in the race to Clinton +1, from +4 the day before..

More importantly there has been a big spike amongst black voters saying they will vote Trump.. now up to 14.1% from 4% previously...



You planning on sourcing this graph?



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Thanks...



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

Can you explain to me why, on THIS Wikipedia source, Ireland's stats are separate from the UK stats under the "Human losses by country" category, as it displays the Irish Flag?

Do Irish men and women identify as Irish or British?





Yes i can - the Republic of Ireland is a different country to Northern Ireland and not part of the UK. It is therefore not included in UK stats, the same way as Russian deaths are not.
As for the question on how Northen Irish people identify themselves (which is I think what you meant), in Northern Ireland it is varied. Some see themselves as British through and through, others see themselves as Irish. More tend to see themselves as British.

www.independent.ie...

We're off topic a bit here.


But according to your source, Republic of Ireland stats were included in the United Kingdom stats.

From your source

"Ireland(Republic of Ireland) 2,960,000[68] - Irish volunteers included with UK Armed Forces"


You seem to be contradicting your own source now.



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth
There was a lot of emphasis on the black vote in the video above and also an emphasis on inner cities..
LA Times reported yesterday a closing in the race to Clinton +1, from +4 the day before..

More importantly there has been a big spike amongst black voters saying they will vote Trump.. now up to 14.1% from 4% previously...



You planning on sourcing this graph?


I did - it's from the LA Times as I said in my post.
It's available on RCP and you can dig into the detail on the LA Times site:

graphics.latimes.com...



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Thanks. Standard T&C requires you to link your sources.



posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

Thanks. Standard T&C requires you to link your sources.


It' will be interesting to see what happens going forward - whether this was just an anomaly... maybe the black community is starting to wake up tot he abject poverty they have been forced to live with under progressive policy...

If Clinton's minority base does weaken she is done.
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posted on Aug, 17 2016 @ 09:45 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

Thanks. Standard T&C requires you to link your sources.

If Clinton's minority base does weaken she is done.

Maybe. Maybe not. It would have to weaken VERY drastically to hurt her chances. I mean Trump is currently below Romney's levels of minority support. So Hillary's minority support could weaken to the point that it raises Trumps minority support to Romney's levels and Clinton would probably still be sitting pretty nicely going forward.




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