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originally posted by: DelMarvel
The U.S. is currently providing air support for Iranian financed Shia militias led by Iranian military personnel in attacks on IS in Iraq.
And the Iranians are also financing IS? So, the Iranians are fighting against themselves?
originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: theantediluvian
I am with you on every thing you said re: Obama.
He did inherit a colossal mistake with Iraq..
He did have to pay the bill on the Wall St Bailout..
Jobs, Industry were all in decline..
For years people complained (me included) that this was Bush's fault and the Obama government needed to be given time to work it out. I was 100% in that frame of mind,I like Obama and I believe he could have done great things if the republicans didn't fight him every step of the way
But, none of that matters any more. What matters is who is the best person to expose all that corruption and the crap policies and do something about them.
That person is most definitely NOT Hillary Clinton - and this is only a 2 horse race.
originally posted by: choocha
His tide has turned because he was able to read a prepared speech that someone else wrote for him off of a teleprompter? Is that where the bar is set for him less than 3 months to the general? LOL
originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
Whether we like it or not the USA is a world leader and more so there than anywhere else what happens affects the rest of the world.
The very fact that your reading this post on this site means you are aware that something is seriously wrong with the current narrative thats shoved down our throughts by the msn and by extension the military industrial complex.
In my opinion a vote for Hillary is a vote for TPTB to keep bending us over and doing us roughly without lube or even a courtesy reach around.
A vote for Trump is saying "F you current political system, we deserve better"
Now whether Trump is actually an outsider is up for debate but its a hard and fast undeniable fact Hillary is up to her eyeballs in the current corrupt system.
Its time to roll the dice America, have the balls to change the status quo and more than likely the world will follow.
It was a great speech and its my sincere hope that he does win
originally posted by: wrathofall
I am more for Mr. TRUMP than any candidate I've witnessed in my entire 47 years. If he is all bull and doesn't do anything he promised, at least he isn't Hillary and her treasonous cohorts. May all the gods help us if she gets in. My 2 cents. My vote.
I don't understand how anyone can not agree with what he's saying..
originally posted by: SudoNim
I love it.
This thread massively backfired.
I don't understand how anyone can not agree with what he's saying..
Maybe because a lot of it is untrue?
It just shows that Trump supporters are more interested in pretty words than facts.
originally posted by: metamagic
a reply to: Agit8dChop
So I started watching the speech and the first line out of Trump's mouth was totally wrong factually "In the 20th century America has defeated Fascism, Nazism and Communism" As a non-American I have to wonder what is in your history books. Anyone who has studied WW2 in historical depth knows that the Americans did not defeat the Nazis, the Allies did with England doing most of the fighting until 1941 in the West until the Americans finally showed up and Russia in the east who probably contributed the most to the downfall of the Nazis and and an incredible cost in lives and land. Yes the Americans were eventually part of the team, and they did supply war materials in the early parts of the war but they but it was an international effort that ended the Nazis.
Fascism is alive and well today. Right now we are seeing fascists taking power in Turkey and already have in other American allies. No one has defeated fascism. As for communism being defeated, this will come a surprise to Communist countries still around and doing quite well. True communism did collapse in Europe but not because of the Americans. I watched it happen, it was an internal revolution. It was a remarkable period of history to be witness to.
Communism fell because of boiling over of anti-communist sentiment in eastern Europe set in motion by Gorbachev's glasnost ("openness") and perestroika ("restructuring"). This paved the way for the worker's revolt in Poland at the Gdansk shipyards by Solidarity led by Lech Wałęsa. There was the emergence of détente between east and west which allowed Honecker in East Germany to move to normalize relationships between the two Germanies eventually leading to unification. In Romania, the Romanian Revolution took place in1989 when Nicolae Ceaușescu order soldiers to fire on demonstrators and the people and army turned against him eventually executing him and his wife. And so it goes, uprisings and revolutions by the people of the old Warsaw pact countries and territories of the USSR until 1991 dissolution of the USSR. No the Americans did not defeat communism, the people of those countries did.
So that is after only the first line. Now I'll listen to more and see if he gets any better. So far my opinion of what I have heard is not great.
originally posted by: SevenThunders
a reply to: metamagic
While arguably the USSR bore the brunt of the Nazi attack, it was America that bore the brunt of the Pacific war in Japan and it was in fact America who financially supported the Russians and it was America who led the attack on D day and kept Western europe ultimately out of Soviet hands.
Without America, you would all be speaking German or Japanese or would be dead.
America also defeated communism by putting stress on their failed economic system. That led to the unrest and eventual collapse.
Unfortunately under Hillary we will have America being ruled by elite oligarchs and satanists. This bodes evil for the rest of the world.
Winston Churchill was standing in front of the washbasin in his bedroom and shaving with his old-fashioned Valet razor when his son Randolph burst in. Churchill had been prime minister for a week, taking over in a crisis as German troops were on the march, scything through Belgium and France and heading for the Channel ports. Randolph sat and waited. Later, he described what happened next.
'After two or three minutes of hacking away at his face, he half-turned and said: "I think I see my way through." He resumed his shaving.
'I was astounded, and said: "Do you mean that we can avoid defeat?" (which seemed credible) "or beat the bastards?" (which seemed incredible).
He flung his razor into the basin, swung around and said with great intensity: "Of course we can beat them. I shall drag the United States in."' Here was a characteristic Churchillian flash of revelation, and all the more brilliant because it came in 1940, when the fighting had barely begun and the prospect of the U.S. joining in was remote.