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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: JohnnyElohim
Nope THAT is your opinion.
The threat is already there,WE just haven't got a clear shot at them.
THE system has been infiltrated and they are letting our guard down, via Islam, using "Cloward and Piven" tactics.
If YOU refuse to acknowledge national and legal sovereignty on the basis of your faith and believe you need not adhere to them but attempt to usurp the culture?
You are an issue with a great deal of people... YOU are who we need to either convince or remove by any means.
I'm a NICER one, I still can't tell who's who.
So I talk first.
A weakness to Jihadists of course but WHAT can I do?
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: Logarock
BS. Muslims played a huge part in the Civil Rights Movement. Not to mention the first country to recognize America's Independence was Muslim country of Morocco. If you don't know that or the implications of it, I'm guessing you also don't know about the 1797 "Treaty of Tripoli" and its ramifications. And since between 15-30% of African American slaves were Muslims, it's fair to say we literally helped build this country from the very beginning.
Actually, screw it. Just because you never learned about the contributions of other demographics, that doesn't mean they never happened. It just shows that you've only been exposed to limited parts of American history.
originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
I think that the undying loyalty given Mr. Trump is even more absurd and ridiculous than Trump himself.
Other than his image and branding, why do people stick to him when it's quite obvious that he'd make George W. Bush the epitome of reason and sanity by comparison?
That's when (during the Bush/Cheney years) the dumbing down process really kicked into high gear, but now, it's become a dumbing UP process with Donald Trump at the apex of it all!
You are a strange bunch.
Take a closer look at the Democratic Party Platform. It's a good plan. Hillary Clinton has her faults, but there's another person there underneath the caricature, who really does care and wants to get the proposed stuff done to, God willing, help generate a type of American renaissance of sorts, like a new dawn and a new morning in America, with people lifting each other up and actively participating in the American dream.
The Trump supporters are blinded I think, by a whole array of bias and prejudice and ill-conceived, and ill-tempered, opinions and impressions that are somehow projected through the person of Donald Trump who's more than happy to lap it all up.
He's a con man folks, a carny, and he's so ignorant that, not only doesn't he not know anything about anything, but he doesn't even know that he doesn't know, and doesn't care to really learn and grow.
Just imagine his Presidency as a type of continuation of his campaign for President with he himself attempting to embody what's "great" about America.. It's absurd.
American power is manifold and complex. Part of it comes from the North American Landmass itself, but a big part of it arises from the ideals it professes to hold dear and uphold.
Trump is directly attacking many of those principals and concepts, on a scale that's well, even more dangerous and threatening than ISIS, given what it could undermine within the global framework amid profound shifts in technological advance and yes, globalization or the emergence of a multilateral, collaborative, global, mutuality of an enlightened mutual self interest aka a global village with American values and interests in the lead.
For God's sake people, don't throw the whole thing into the can! That's nuts.
originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
But one tough question:
What is 88% of the population going to do when Hillary "wins"?