PETA out to starve humanity

That's why the world is full of numbskull TV-hypnotised Bush-supporting 'Droids
Pay the proper price for food- Yes I know about the poor and the starving
They're all part of this process

Good point, if food was the most expensive amenity we might have less to spend on war!

Free range costs alot of $$$$ Even the half of a cow we buy is $$$ not because it is more expensive, but that it is in a lump sum. About $900 and a large chest freezer is needed to store it. It IS healthier though. If for no reason other than that it is worth it.

Those that do not have the extra money to pay 3x's as much for chicken or for the nicer cuts of meat have to buy what they can afford. Many times those that are poor, are more overweight due to the food choices they can afford.

I don't know about everyone else, but eating HEALTHY is expensive. Unless you grow your own. I don't grow anything as it would die under my care. I am a wonderful caretaker of animals but NOT of plants.

What in the heck does Bush have to do with PETA anyhow?? Oh yeah, everything is his fault

Originally posted by llpoolej
Free range costs alot of $$$$

I don't know about everyone else, but eating HEALTHY is expensive. Unless you grow your own. I don't grow anything as it would die under my care. I am a wonderful caretaker of animals but NOT of plants.

What in the heck does Bush have to do with PETA anyhow?? Oh yeah, everything is his fault

What does Bush have to do with it?
Because we have a whole system of brutalisation of humanity, animals, forest, agriculture
The most gain for the most few, and the world suffers
You notice those top chefs and those top eaters
You note what Prince Charles supports and his organically derived produce on his estates
Their preference would be for the masses to eat GM gruel and pesticide laden poison and antibiotic-laden adrenalin-driven cruelly raised animals till lwe die in our millions from one attack or another

Yeah, these last 4 years our society went from being completely loving, kind and good to animals to capitalistic animal haters. It is allll Bush's fault. Yes, he is the root of all evil.

PEOPLE have choices to make. Bush isn't that powerful of a speaker or leader to sway an entire population into being cruel to animals.

Maybe an organization could be started that isn't radical like PETA. That doesn't have an agenda like they do. That is looking out for ETHICAL TREATMENT or at least HUMANE treatment.

I disagree with many of their basic beliefs. I have come to this conclusion from their website and what it lists. Although there are many things I do agree with them with. Their delivery is the main thing that makes them distasteful

I disagree with HOW they go about getting out their message. This was taken off their website (peta.org):
“How can you justify the millions of dollars of property damage caused by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF)?”
Throughout history, some people have felt the need to break the law to fight injustice. The Underground Railroad and the French Resistance are examples of movements in which people broke the law in order to answer to a higher morality. The ALF, which is simply the name adopted by people who act illegally in behalf of animal rights, breaks inanimate objects such as stereotaxic devices and decapitators in order to save lives. ALF members burn empty buildings in which animals are tortured and killed. ALF “raids” have given us proof of horrific cruelty that would not have otherwise been discovered or believed and have resulted in criminal charges’ being filed against laboratories for violations of the Animal Welfare Act. Often, ALF raids have been followed by widespread scientific condemnation of the practices occurring in the targeted labs, and some abusive laboratories have been permanently shut down as a result.

This to me is just the same as the abortion clinic bombers methods. I will destroy what I see harmful regardless of who it hurts. IT is WRONG

Well, I can tell you one thing. You'll never get the people of South Louisiana to stop boiling crawfish, I don't care if PETA threatens to stage a mass suicide.

Wait a minute! I think I just had a brainstorm!

What in the heck does Bush have to do with PETA anyhow?? Oh yeah, everything is his fault

Who mentioned Bush till then?

Well, I can tell you one thing. You'll never get the people of South Louisiana to stop boiling crawfish, I don't care if PETA threatens to stage a mass suicide.

Wait a minute! I think I just had a brainstorm!

Real intelligence their Grady.

People hear the word PETA and their thought processes just shutdown.

Funny how the phrase "I dont care" pops up so frequently from these people in any context.

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The pleasure is all mine and if my calculations are correct this post should push me over the 100,000 point mark. How's that for intelligence?

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
The pleasure is all mine and if my calculations are correct this post should push me over the 100,000 point mark. How's that for intelligence?

It explains many of your post thats for sure. Thanks for pointing it out.

Originally posted by RANT
But even less substantive.

I'm neither a PETA fan nor detractor, but the logic that the promotion of vegetarianism is an attempt to starve the world couldn't be further from the truth.

Meat is the unnecessary luxury that deprives. I'm not saying I don't eat it, but I'm not blind to the facts of the ultimate "protein factory in reverse."

If you hunt and eat deer, quail or fish...good for you. This does not apply to naturally developed wild animals that feed themselves off the land while providing an invaluable service in the cycle of nature themselves.

But farm raised meat borders on madness. Setting aside the grotesque alterations to evolution we've accomplished in just the last few decades to bovine, swine and fowl that couldn't hope to fend for themselves, much less walk in nature...look at the protein costs. The substantive nutriants we expend in raising feed by the tons and tons for sustanance over the life of these gorged abominations of nature is a travesty considering starvation is rampant on parts of the globe.

Millions if not billions of human beings live at or near the danger level for starvation and we talk about a world crisis of available food, the decline of farms, etc. etc.... while we feed many, many, many times the amount of protein needed to feed the population of several planets our size in plant-protein to livestock in order to one day extract a paltry amount of meat protein as a luxury item.

If memory serves, chickens require about 40 times the protein they produce in a lifetime of otherwise human edible nutriants and cows are something off the chart. Like hundreds of times the protein factory in reverse. I understand the concentration effect that a bite of chicken can sustain you longer than a bowl of rice, but that's also not how the west eats anymore. Our version of chinese food (for example) is a joke. We overeat meat to our own demise. To the point it's not good for us, and it's horrible for the planet.

Think of it like the Total cereal commercial. Next time you sit down to a steak, think of the silo (if not silos) of grain it took to make that cut. And the village it could have fed for a year instead of you at one sitting.

Then cluck your tongue about PETA trying to starve the world.

Bottom line: There is no shortage of food on this planet. We just feed MOST of it to cows.

Good perspective, you get my way above vote. I didn't quite see it that way. I still will continue to eat meat, but your point was well articulated.

-ADHDsux4me

Originally posted by instar
Good point, if food was the most expensive amenity we might have less to spend on war!

You think it's OK to make food an expensive commodity? To price it out of the reach of poor people around the globe? To starve a large portion of the human race that doesn't have the money and resources to sit here and coldly write them off as you have just done? Just to save some chickens, cows and fish some pain?

Thanks for verifying the title of this thread.