Amb. Stevens' Sister: Don't Blame Clinton for Benghazi

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: shooterbrody

What did the First Family's vacations have to do with Benghazi again?

Aside from, you know, mindless political baiting and bashing?

Take your 7 mill investifarion and square it with 15 mil on vacations .

You spread Hillary lies

What is an investifarion? My thread is about an interview with the Ambassador's sister.

Your purpose is to spread Obama talking points.
Have you posted the thoughts of other dead civil servants?
HELL NO YOU DIDNT
You deal in bs
You are partisan bs democrat appoligist.
Vote for Hillary perhaps she will kill more ambassadors.

I haven't posted the thoughts of other dead civil servants, first I did not know them when they were alive and cannot ask if they are dead.

Didnt stop you from exploiting death to further Hillarys agenda did it?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Gryphon66

OK

"Is Benghazi different? Absolutely," said Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and an adjunct assistant professor in Georgetown University’s security studies program. One reason, he said, is that an American ambassador died in the attack, which hadn’t happened since the 1970s.

You mean Stevens was an Ambassador?

How did I miss that?

Oh, I didn't.

Next?

You missed the FACT that he was the first to die since the 70's.

Gratz, you win an overlookie.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

You're full of it. Read the NINE reports your buddies in Congress have whipped up for you.

You must live in a vaccuum with Hilary posters on the wall...

She blamed it on a VIDEO yet emails her daugter before that claim it was a terrorist event...

How many embassys in the region had been attacked prior? The list is so long of the cover-up she is still attempting...

To any elemtary school student, Sept 11 would be a day of caution...perhaps be on alert?

Nah..she had no part it was just the State Department and heck no one had anything to do with anything...

Nice try

mg

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: shooterbrody

What did the First Family's vacations have to do with Benghazi again?

Aside from, you know, mindless political baiting and bashing?

Take your 7 mill investifarion and square it with 15 mil on vacations .

You spread Hillary lies

What is an investifarion? My thread is about an interview with the Ambassador's sister.

Your purpose is to spread Obama talking points.
Have you posted the thoughts of other dead civil servants?
HELL NO YOU DIDNT
You deal in bs
You are partisan bs democrat appoligist.
Vote for Hillary perhaps she will kill more ambassadors.

I haven't posted the thoughts of other dead civil servants, first I did not know them when they were alive and cannot ask if they are dead.

Didnt stop you from exploiting death to further Hillarys agenda did it?

How am I doing either? It is the Ambassador's sister that says her brother's death has been politically exploited by the unending investigation.

a reply to: Vector99

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, General Carter Ham, the Commander of U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM), and other military leaders explained to the Select Committee that Defense Department officials carried out the orders of the President to use all resources at their disposal to try to save American lives on the night of the attacks.

Read more in pp 56-72 Report of the Select Committee on Benghazi

a reply to: reldra

and according to that we should say ok, no one was responsible?

Do you realize how #ed up that is?

a reply to: missed_gear

Read the Reports. They're linked above.

Or keep spewing the same nonsense.

a reply to: reldra

So you think there should have been no investigation?
What about the other families? Hillary says nothing here so they are just screwed?
You are nothing but partisan left wing zombie are you.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Gryphon66

OK

"Is Benghazi different? Absolutely," said Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and an adjunct assistant professor in Georgetown University’s security studies program. One reason, he said, is that an American ambassador died in the attack, which hadn’t happened since the 1970s.

You mean Stevens was an Ambassador?

How did I miss that?

Oh, I didn't.

Next?

You missed the FACT that he was the first to die since the 70's.

Gratz, you win an overlookie.

Nope, didn't miss that fact at all.

Next?

a reply to: reldra

Read this one also from cbs and later with more info.

One official associated with the State Department now acknowledges that the CSG would probably have advised decision makers that FEST "was not just backup generator and radios." Said the official: "the CSG could have made the argument, they were upset that they weren't heard." Another former Defense Department official says he finds no merit to using the CSG. "I'd like to hear them say what they could have done."

FEST has Marines attached to it as well. Not just a weird foreign fema like group. The Marines attached to FEST are called FAST.
FAST info

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Vector99

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, General Carter Ham, the Commander of U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM), and other military leaders explained to the Select Committee that Defense Department officials carried out the orders of the President to use all resources at their disposal to try to save American lives on the night of the attacks.

Read more in pp 56-72 Report of the Select Committee on Benghazi

So a military response couldn't have prevented death in Benghazi.

You know what could have?

Well I know you know, but let's not make anyone responsible.

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: reldra

and according to that we should say ok, no one was responsible?

Do you realize how #ed up that is?

No, I am saying what she has said. It is the title of the article and the title of this thread.

As for responsibility, I don't think the committee found a single person alone to be responsible. There is a large section on recommendations. I think it is section V.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Gryphon66

OK

"Is Benghazi different? Absolutely," said Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and an adjunct assistant professor in Georgetown University’s security studies program. One reason, he said, is that an American ambassador died in the attack, which hadn’t happened since the 1970s.

You mean Stevens was an Ambassador?

How did I miss that?

Oh, I didn't.

Next?

You missed the FACT that he was the first to die since the 70's.

Gratz, you win an overlookie.

Nope, didn't miss that fact at all.

Next?

So, let's get this straight, you say no single person is responsible.

YOU say that it is what it is.

So in the future, this will be the standard, when someone dies, no one is responsible.

You think this is a good policy? Honestly do you?

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: reldra

and according to that we should say ok, no one was responsible?

Do you realize how #ed up that is?

No, I am saying what she has said. It is the title of the article and the title of this thread.

As for responsibility, I don't think the committee found a single person alone to be responsible. There is a large section on recommendations. I think it is section V.

Ok genius who is responsible for foreign service professionals?

Guess I dare you

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: reldra

and according to that we should say ok, no one was responsible?

Do you realize how #ed up that is?

No, I am saying what she has said. It is the title of the article and the title of this thread.

As for responsibility, I don't think the committee found a single person alone to be responsible. There is a large section on recommendations. I think it is section V.

Ok genius who is responsible for foreign service professionals?

Guess I dare you

I don't intend to respond to something worded that way towards me.

I havn't read the full new report yet, but intend to. Found this broad overview of the distinctions however.

www.usnews.com...

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Gryphon66

What do you mean "we just let these things go now"? We apprehended the leader of the militia that attacked our embassy.

So no one is responsible for the fudge up then.

And no one responsible is now running for president.

Wow I can't wait to see what happens if she wins.

She definitely will not be responsible, because well what does it matter in the aftermath?

You're speaking in simplistic absolutes.

And yes, what does it matter whether our embassy was attacked because of a video or because people hate America?

Americans died. We've brought at least some of the ones responsible to justice for it. We've changed policies and procedures to address some of the specific problems that led to the Benghazi tragedy.

But the right-wing doesn't care about any of that ... you only have one thing on your minds: GET CLINTON GET CLINTON.

It's absurd.

I think we only got 1 guy that was there.

He was the one interviewed by the pool by a news team.

I'm glad they found him! It must have been a hell of a chase.

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: reldra

and according to that we should say ok, no one was responsible?

Do you realize how #ed up that is?

No, I am saying what she has said. It is the title of the article and the title of this thread.

As for responsibility, I don't think the committee found a single person alone to be responsible. There is a large section on recommendations. I think it is section V.

Ok genius who is responsible for foreign service professionals?

Guess I dare you

I don't intend to respond to something worded that way towards me.

Only cause you know its the SOS who was Hillary.

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: reldra

and according to that we should say ok, no one was responsible?

Do you realize how #ed up that is?

No, I am saying what she has said. It is the title of the article and the title of this thread.

As for responsibility, I don't think the committee found a single person alone to be responsible. There is a large section on recommendations. I think it is section V.

So it is acceptable for the person in charge of an entire department to be let off because they didn't have enough info? Or they didn't act properly because of the norm?

Well in this case the "norm" got people killed.

These are the things that the people in charge MUST be held responsible for. If not we set a dangerous precedent for all in the future. If there are no consequences there is no motivation to do the job properly.

It is a big deal.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Gryphon66

OK

"Is Benghazi different? Absolutely," said Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and an adjunct assistant professor in Georgetown University’s security studies program. One reason, he said, is that an American ambassador died in the attack, which hadn’t happened since the 1970s.

You mean Stevens was an Ambassador?

How did I miss that?

Oh, I didn't.

Next?

You missed the FACT that he was the first to die since the 70's.

Gratz, you win an overlookie.

Nope, didn't miss that fact at all.

Next?

So, let's get this straight, you say no single person is responsible.

YOU say that it is what it is.

So in the future, this will be the standard, when someone dies, no one is responsible.

You think this is a good policy? Honestly do you?

Look we're having a discussion about events that happened four years ago. We are not discussing the pertinent details nor the detailed evidence that is available to us.

You are the one who keeps insisting that "either Hillary Clinton is responsible or no one is." That's absurd, false dichotomy, illogical .... however you want to describe it. You're describing a ridiculously foolishly over-simplified view of a complicated situation.

Lot's of people are responsible for the Benghazi tragedy, not the least of which are the Republican thugs in Congress that refused to fund embassy security.

So, if you want to continue this silly little exercise, deal with what I'm saying, not the straw-men you want to throw up.