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New Rule Requires Doctors To Treat Trans Patients As Their Pretend Sex

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posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Jansy

"What's stupid...stupid...STOOPID is a guy, standing naked in front of a doctor with his penis hanging there and insisting the doctor address HIM as Ma'am and insisting on being given a pap smear."

This happened?




Can you get anymore ridiculous?



Noooooooooo

You sure threw down the gauntlet there Annee, you watch them kick the nitro in now.




posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
So, if I understand this as asserted by the posts on this thread:

Some people, for whatever reason, identify as the opposite gender. We should humor them . . .


NO. We accept that the brain tells you your gender. Even if the packaging doesn't match.

We accept it because its real.

We accept what specialists in the field and transgenders themselves know, and stop closing minds to something because its different.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Jansy

"What's stupid...stupid...STOOPID is a guy, standing naked in front of a doctor with his penis hanging there and insisting the doctor address HIM as Ma'am and insisting on being given a pap smear."

This happened?




Can you get anymore ridiculous?



Noooooooooo

You sure threw down the gauntlet there Annee, you watch them kick the nitro in now.


Fine with me.

Some of the ignorant, anti-trans stuff posted is just plain stupid.

edit on 23-6-2016 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
So, if I understand this as asserted by the posts on this thread:

Some people, for whatever reason, identify as the opposite gender. We should humor them . . .


NO. We accept that the brain tells you your gender. Even if the packaging doesn't match.

We accept it because its real.

We accept what specialists in the field and transgenders themselves know, and stop closing minds to something because its different.


I think this is getting ridiculous too. Gender is defined as one of two groups, designated male and female, based on reproductive organs and their function. Nothing there about what you want to be, or what you want to identify as. If have male genitalia you are a male. Whether you want to be female, act the way you perceive females to act, identify as a female, is irrelevant. You are male.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
So, if I understand this as asserted by the posts on this thread:

Some people, for whatever reason, identify as the opposite gender. We should humor them . . .


NO. We accept that the brain tells you your gender. Even if the packaging doesn't match.

We accept it because its real.

We accept what specialists in the field and transgenders themselves know, and stop closing minds to something because its different.


I think this is getting ridiculous too. Gender is defined as one of two groups, designated male and female, based on reproductive organs and their function.


You're wrong.

Physical sexuality and gender are 2 different things.

The packaging: physical sexuality.

Gender: is determined by the brain.

Science has evolved in understanding that the brain determines who we are.

You wanna stay "stuck" - - that's your choice. I choose evolving and understanding new discoveries.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 01:56 PM
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originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: daryllyn
No. What's wrong is the amount of intolerance displayed in this thread.




When we get people that can be biologically born between human and cat like we can get people that are born biologically between male and female, we can start indulging furries.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 01:58 PM
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originally posted by: WhateverYouSay

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: daryllyn
No. What's wrong is the amount of intolerance displayed in this thread.




When we get people that can be biologically born between human and cat like we can get people that are born biologically between male and female, we can start indulging furries.


Really people.

Leave the animals out of this.

It only reflects on you.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: Annee

If I sewed a pocket on my belly and put a stuffed animal in it would it make me a kangaroo? What if I said I identified as one?



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 02:19 PM
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originally posted by: snarfbot
a reply to: Annee

If I sewed a pocket on my belly and put a stuffed animal in it would it make me a kangaroo? What if I said I identified as one?


As I said, some of the stuff posted in this thread is just plain stupid.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 02:21 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel

White woman 'identifies' as black. Does she know what color her skin is?


And that has exactly what to do with Gender Dysphoria?



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 02:23 PM
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originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Annee


Your interpretation is just as wrong as your ignorant opinion.


It's not opinion. It's undeniable fact.


And seizures are being possessed by the Devil.

And homosexuality is a choice.

That's OK. You just stay "stuck".



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 02:36 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

White woman 'identifies' as black. Does she know what color her skin is?


And that has exactly what to do with Gender Dysphoria?


Exchanging one dysphoria for another. If a person can self identify to a different gender why not self identify to a different color? Rachel Dolezal did it, and became head of the NAACP. Until people found out she was white. Then she got fired. So much for tolerance.

I think the new philosophy you are embracing is a little too convenient and too new be taken seriously. I can see how someone with an agenda could come to that conclusion and find evidence supporting it. Maybe that is what happened, maybe it isn't. Can you say with absolute certainty which it really was? You believe it because you want to. That is ok for you. But I don't think you can expect other people to believe it too simply because you want it to be true. Remember, it was psych professionals who first decided that homosexuality was a disorder. People were ok with that determination, except for the homosexuals, who demanded change. Now the psych professionals are starting to say the opposite. That makes homosexuals happy, but what about everyone else? Are we expected to be more tolerant of ideas opposing our views than homosexuals were? Or can we demand change too?



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 02:50 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

White woman 'identifies' as black. Does she know what color her skin is?


And that has exactly what to do with Gender Dysphoria?


Exchanging one dysphoria for another. If a person can self identify to a different gender why not self identify to a different color?


Race is not gender.

Try staying on topic.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:11 PM
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Amazing!

I thought this day would never come, but now that it has I'm gonna get me some of that faaanchy schmaaaancy IVF treatment hopefully before I begin the menopause.

What an age we live in!



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
So, if I understand this as asserted by the posts on this thread:

Some people, for whatever reason, identify as the opposite gender. We should humor them and go along with it in regards to how we speak to them, the titles we give them, which restrooms we let them use, etc. But in reality we should ignore the fact that they claim to be one gender when in reality they are the other, and as in the case of medical professionals, treat them as the gender they actually are, while humoring and supporting the imagined gender identity they have assumed for whatever reason...because it would be insensitive to do otherwise. Even though letting men in dresses go in the little girls room may be insensitive to the little girls, who I guess should just get over it and not develop some kind of complex or be traumatized by it because that simply isn't productive for the agenda?

And this is considered healthy respectful behavior? In what capacity of mental health is it considered positive or healthy to enable and humor a fantasy based life over reality? At what point does it become destructive?

I think it would much more helpful to give them a mirror and a medical book complete with pop up pictures, leave them alone for a while, and let them sort it out for themselves.


That'ssss....that's pretty much it, yeah.

Garra praaaablum wit dat?



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:27 PM
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*Just sighs*

Ok. Let me spell this out for you in easy-to-understand language.
Gender -does not- equal Sex. Two vastly different words.

gen·der
ˈjendər/Submit
noun
1.
the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

sex
seks/Submit
noun
either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

I excluded the 1st definition of Sex, as it's not relevant to this topic. As you can plainly see, Gender, and Sex ARE NOT THE SAME THING. You are free to believe differently, but that doesn't make you intelligent. Plain, and simple. This isn't even debatable. For a bit of reading on this, see: this

Now, lets get into the subject a bit deeper. The brain is a physical ('real') object, as is the brain's chemistry. If you actually -read- the following article, you will see that there are indeed -physical differences- in not only the brain structure, but the biochemistry of the brain aswell. (Source) Those are -real-, -physical- differences be it in structure, or chemistry. Again, you are free to believe differently, but that doesn't make you intelligent.

Before you jump in, trying to debate me on this, please remember that I will simply ignore your post if you can't use non-extreme, or illogical examples (Such as a Sexually Male transgender Female going in for a pap smear), or if you try to Change the Spotlight.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: jjsr420

I will debate you, I've done my research.

Will there be dirty bins in the mens toilets?



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:36 PM
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a reply to: samerulesapply

Should have just gotten to it, because unless your next post has something to do with the subject at hand, you'll be summarily ignored.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: jjsr420

My question was completely in context - I like how you're throwing down the gauntlet and trying to take control of the thread. We're all here to simply have a Q&A session with you, a qualified trangender expert or something.

Maybe you should get your own house in order, since certain members of your clique were educated on these issues by a friend.

ETA - just thought I'd clarify that it was a trangender friend, lest we assume said education not to be objective enough to meet your stringent requirements and criteria.

Sorry, I'm interrupting...amaze us all with your incredible insights.
edit on 23-6-2016 by samerulesapply because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: samerulesapply

How is a question about 'dirty bins' relevant to this discussion? I have no 'clique', and infact don't know anyone on this site outside of this site. You have many assumptions, but little substance. Get with it, or be ignored.




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