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I see how it is. None of you all bother scream and rant and rave about the Patriot Act (old news, right?
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: ~Lucidity
Stopped him from what?
Killing his mom and stealing her guns?
All this will do is make it slightly harder to buy a brand new gun.
It certainly doesn't stop mass shootings with 100's of millions of firearms in circulation.
Would have stopped him from buying the exact weapons he bought to MURDER people.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: ketsuko
Uh the logic is the same. Just because you don't agree with the position doesn't change the fact it's not uncommon for people to keep fighting after votes are lost.
You also left out the preface that where I said it isn't the same thing now didn't you.
originally posted by: Krakatoa
Isn't their behavior considered subversive? I know, put all of their names on the no-fly and terror watch list without telling them. Then, when they try to vote again to link it to the right to keep and bear arms, they will be stripping themselves of the right to protect themselves. Even better, put all their bodyguards names on it too. After all, they are paid to carry weapons of death in an effort to shoot people trying to get near subversives on the list. They must be stopped. Think of the children it will save.
this one may be possible but would perhaps be the most extreme option he could employ to solve the issue of the sit in.
But as Democrats show no sign of moving, one source close to House leadership told TheBlaze that Ryan was still deciding what his course of action would be, especially as he has a few options to consider. 1. Have protesters forcibly removed Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) told TheBlaze Wednesday that the “disruption” by Congressional Democrats was “beneath the dignity of the House and lacks the respect this chamber is owed” as she urged Ryan to have those participating in the sit-in physically removed. “No member of Congress has a right to hold the People’s House hostage for the sake of a political agenda,” Black said. “I would urge Speaker Ryan to have the Sergeant at Arms remove members who are violating the rules of the House so that order can be restored and Congress can continue its business.”As Business Insider noted, House rules do stipulate that the speaker can clear the House floor by way of the sergeant-at-arms. In fact, the rules explicitly state: “The Speaker shall preserve order and decorum and, in case of disturbance or disorderly conduct in the galleries or in the lobby, may cause the same to be cleared.” “Except as otherwise provided by rule or law, the Speaker shall have general control of the Hall of the House, the corridors and passages in the part of the Capitol assigned to the use of the House, and the disposal of unappropriated rooms in that part of the Capitol.” Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Wis.) said on social media Wednesday that she has been arrested during multiple protests in the past, including fighting to raise the minimum wage and ending genocide in Darfur, Sudan, and was prepared to be arrested again Wednesday.“She is prepared to do whatever is necessary,” Eric Harris, communications director for Moore, told TheBlaze Wednesday. “We have no idea what’s going to happen,” he added. “It’s extraordinary measures for an extraordinary time.”
i would call this one highly unlikely as it would not end well for his re-election campaign that i think is coming up either this time or the next election cycle ,so i dont see this happening and being a presidential election year it would be a field day for the press and trump if ryan were to cave to demands.
2. Cave into Democrats’ demands All it would take would be to simply call for a vote on the bipartisan “no fly, no buy” gun control legislation, multiple Democratic lawmakers and their aides said Wednesday. Harris contended the situation lawmakers found themselves in by Wednesday afternoon was “unprecedented” and said anyone who pretended like they knew what was going to happen was “lying.” The Democrats, Harris said, simply want a vote on the legislation and didn’t speculate on if there was anything else Ryan could do to end the protest other than call for a vote. Another aide to one of the Congressional Democrats leading the charge told TheBlaze that, while she could not speak as spokesperson for those protesting, the lawmakers did want House leadership to “take some kind of action, to bring some common-sense bill to the floor.” “To date, the House has taken absolutely no action to protect Americans,” the aide said. “There are many proposals out there. They are asking the leadership to lead and do its job.” However, Ryan shrugged off the protest as simply a “publicity stunt” during an interview with CNN Wednesday evening that didn’t seem too promising for Democrats who want him to call for a vote on the legislation. “This is not a way to bring up legislation,” Ryan said.
this option i think is the most likely to be implemented as it has the least amount of blow back and is far less likely to cause problems for him with his constituents ,and hey it works for a lot of parents when their children decide to throw a temper tantrum so i see this being the option Ryan employs to stop this ,as it would be a pretty boring live stream watching a bunch of old politicians sitting around a mostly empty room live streaming their protest as he has allready turned off the cspan cameras
3. Ignore them until they leave House Republicans are no stranger to sit-in themselves. In 2008, Republicans staged their own sit-in as they were irked that then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi refused to schedule a vote on off-shore drilling. After several hours of Congressional Democrats turning the lights off on their Republican counterparts, reportedly rousing speeches by GOP lawmakers and a rendition of “God Bless America,” Republicans eventually packed it up and went home all on their own. Dr. David Woodard, Thurmond professor of political science at Clemson University, told TheBlaze the removal of the lawmakers by police is not something that would “look good on television.” He recalled that, as a child of the 1960s, the best course of action for Ryan would be to simply ignore the protesters. “Such demonstrations require public attention,” Woodard said. “When nothing happens, it becomes very tired television. The one percent wore out, the Vietnam demonstrators were ignored in occupation and the Civil Rights protests often lost steam if ignored.” And as the House went into recess with the protests, the House cut the microphones and the live camera feed to the sit-in, breaking off C-SPAN’s video broadcast of the event. Many House Democrats broke the rules and decided to livestream their event themselves, but were eventually told by House security to stop recording and publishing videos. But leaving quietly and quickly on their own might not be the case this go-around as Pelosi announced Wednesday that they “will be here as long as it takes, every day.”
originally posted by: introvert
2nd amendment supporters need to find a different approach or you stand to subvert our rights through outright stupidity.