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Founder of Judge Curiel's Group: Whites Should Go Back to Europe, CA To Be 'Hispanic State'

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posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 06:28 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66


Should a Catholic judge recuse themselves from any decisions having to do with religion, abortion, birth control, the death penalty, etc?

If they are a member of a pro-life activist group, yes.




posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 06:29 PM
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originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Gryphon66


Should a Catholic judge recuse themselves from any decisions having to do with religion, abortion, birth control, the death penalty, etc?

If they are a member of a pro-life activist group, yes.



The Roman Catholic Church is a pro-life activist group.

Thanks for a straight answer though Bulk.



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 06:31 PM
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On the good news front..

“In her support for the 1994 crime bill, for example, she used racially coded rhetoric to cast black children as animals,” Ms. Alexander wrote. “Both Clintons now express regret over the crime bill, and Hillary says she supports criminal-justice reforms to undo some of the damage that was done by her husband’s administration. But on the campaign trail, she continues to invoke the economy and country that Bill Clinton left behind as a legacy she would continue."

From observer.com...

Despite the Clintons playing a significant role in destroying a generation of black Americans with clearly Racist Policy there is apparently only one target in the current election who can be labelled?




posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 06:33 PM
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originally posted by: draoicht
On the good news front..

“In her support for the 1994 crime bill, for example, she used racially coded rhetoric to cast black children as animals,” Ms. Alexander wrote. “Both Clintons now express regret over the crime bill, and Hillary says she supports criminal-justice reforms to undo some of the damage that was done by her husband’s administration. But on the campaign trail, she continues to invoke the economy and country that Bill Clinton left behind as a legacy she would continue."

From observer.com...

Despite the Clintons playing a significant role in destroying a generation of black Americans with clearly Racist Policy there is apparently only one target in the current election who can be labelled?



And out of nowhere, completely unexpected, another wild attack on Hillary (and this time Bill) Clinton.

What does ^that have to do with this> "Founder of Judge Curiel's Group: Whites Should Go Back to Europe, CA To Be 'Hispanic State'"?

Please, and thank you.



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: TheBulk

Mario Obleto was not involved with the formation of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association (SDLRLA).



San Diego La Raza Lawyers (SDLRLA) had its first organizational meeting in 1976 at the Pioneer Room of the San Diego County Public Law Library. It was then an unincorporated association, made up of approximately 12 attorneys (only about 5 of whom were female). The organization was formed with a desire to effect change in San Diego by representing the interests of the Latino community, identifying issues which involved the Latino community, and advocating for those issues. Presidents of the unincorporated organization were Hon. Rafael Arreola and Hon. Roy B. Cazares.

The first networking function ever thrown by SDLRLA was hosted at the home of Ramon Castro, a well known criminal defense attorney. The organization incorporated as a 501 (c)(6) in 1979 and was led at the time by President Nick Aguilar, Secretary Henry Baray and Treasurer Dan Guevara.

The organization chose to become a 501 (c)(6) so that it could continue to further its goals to advance the Latino community through political activity and advocacy. After surviving the ’80s, an era where Latinos were commonly ignored for political and judicial appointments, SDLRLA realized that the only way to effect change was to demand change by engaging the political system. This led to the creation of the first political endorsement committee in the early 1990′s, which committee continues to the present.


San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association - History


Now, from the article linked in your OP ...



Mario Obledo was a co-founder of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF) and the La Raza Lawyers of California bar association, and he formerly served as California’s Secretary of Health and Welfare.


These two are different groups, different entities, etc:




La Raza Lawyers of California is an independent unincorporated association of Lawyers organized in 1977 to support Chicano and Latino Lawyers in California and serve as a statewide network for local affiliate La Raza Lawyers Groups. We meet quarterly at various locations around the state and represent 16 different local organizations with over 2,000 attorneys. We are affiliated with the Hispanic National Bar Association.


La Raza Lawyers of California

They're not the same organization, Bulk. Affiliates at this point, but not the same organization. AT ALL.

Different founding dates, different founding members, different groups, etc.

I know you only repeated Breitbart ... but the facts are obvious.

Do you want to ask the Mods to move this to the HOAX bin?
edit on 10-6-2016 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 06:50 PM
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Lots of references to race and racism in this thread.

Perhaps the author of the article referenced fabricated the Clintons regret?

Her support of "diversity" is lip service?

Future policy is off limits for the debate you wish to have?




posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 07:15 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

So then you'll be routing for Hillary will you?

good luck with that.


You must have missed all the times i called Hillary a lying witch and i still hope that someone will throw water at her so she melts like the witch in oz.






posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 11:08 PM
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a reply to: TheBulk

Just what many of us were already saying, and now he's proven us correct!

I wouldn't hold my breath for the apologies from the anti-Trump crowd, though!



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 11:20 PM
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a reply to: TheBulk

Since the founder of this lawyers association admitted saying he wants to take California from "white people" then Trump war right as it is more then enough to show the accusation of a conflict of interest and reason to just appoint another judge to the case.



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 11:24 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: syrinx high priest
where are judge curiels quotes ?

I can't find them


Woah, woah, woah, so now it's not enough that someone can associate themselves with a group lead by someone who has been caught with openly anti-American and anti-white (racist) objectives which are quoted in the OP, they now have to be caught saying the same or you refuse to believe it?

That isn't how it works with conservatives. You get caught associating even in the smallest six degrees of Kevin Bacon way with anyone or any group who might possibly have said something that anyone on the left considers to be racist/sexist/homophobic/Islamophobic/etc. then you have to disavow it and apologize for life, the universe, and everything and likely resign too, and then you are considered notorious forever after.

This is why Trump is so popular. He doesn't care and I think a large part of the country has just plain stopped caring, and you guys have only yourselves to blame for this.


They will simply move the goalpost wherever it seems fit.



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 11:30 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
That the judge is unable to do his job properly because he's of Mexican Heritage. That is a Racist Comment. Period.


Except that is not what Trump said.


edit on America/ChicagovAmerica/ChicagoFri, 10 Jun 2016 23:32:37 -05001620166America/Chicago by everyone because: fixed quote



posted on Jun, 11 2016 @ 12:21 AM
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The Right.... always pointing out racism everywhere else, except in themselves... and yet they have such a keen eye for it.



posted on Jun, 11 2016 @ 12:45 AM
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Native Americans didn't even have the wheel at the time before European colonization.



posted on Jun, 11 2016 @ 01:03 AM
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Cant go to Europe, thats only for Arabs / Islam now.


Ya you were thinking it too.



posted on Jun, 11 2016 @ 01:08 AM
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originally posted by: everyone

Except that is not what Trump said.



Really. Because he certainly doesn't deny that it's what he's saying right here. He just denies that it's Racist. But he doesn't deny saying it at all.

Plus he keeps saying He's Mexican. But he's not. He's American.

So if that's not what he's saying, maybe you should tell him that because he certainly thinks he's saying it. It certainly sounds like he's saying. Everyone but his supporters is hearing him say it. The media has him recorded as saying it. Now he's defending the fact that he's saying it. So if that isn't what he's saying what exactly are you hearing him say???
edit on 11-6-2016 by mOjOm because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 11 2016 @ 01:13 AM
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originally posted by: everyone
a reply to: TheBulk

Since the founder of this lawyers association admitted saying he wants to take California from "white people" then Trump war right as it is more then enough to show the accusation of a conflict of interest and reason to just appoint another judge to the case.


Great observation, except that ...

1. The organization that Judge Curiel is a member of is not the same one that Mario Obleto was a part of. Two distinct groups.

2. Judge Curiel has never said anything like is attributed to Mr. Obleto.



posted on Jun, 11 2016 @ 01:15 AM
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originally posted by: FlyingFox
Native Americans didn't even have the wheel at the time before European colonization.



They didn't have smallpox, venereal disease or alcoholism, either.



posted on Jun, 11 2016 @ 01:23 AM
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originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: syrinx high priest
where are judge curiels quotes ?

I can't find them


Woah, woah, woah, so now it's not enough that someone can associate themselves with a group lead by someone who has been caught with openly anti-American and anti-white (racist) objectives which are quoted in the OP, they now have to be caught saying the same or you refuse to believe it?

That isn't how it works with conservatives. You get caught associating even in the smallest six degrees of Kevin Bacon way with anyone or any group who might possibly have said something that anyone on the left considers to be racist/sexist/homophobic/Islamophobic/etc. then you have to disavow it and apologize for life, the universe, and everything and likely resign too, and then you are considered notorious forever after.

This is why Trump is so popular. He doesn't care and I think a large part of the country has just plain stopped caring, and you guys have only yourselves to blame for this.


They will simply move the goalpost wherever it seems fit.


No need to move any goalposts: OP talks about two different organizations started at two different times by different people.

But, hey, as long as it has "La Raza" in the name, its the same thing, amirite?

Just like ... La Raza Newspaper in Chicago IL or the Galeria de La Raza in San Francisco, or the La Raza Markets, or the La Raza Restaurants ... ALL THE SAM THING! (Actually, in a way they are ... as the phrase means "The People" or "The Community" but I digress.)



posted on Jun, 11 2016 @ 01:45 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
The phrase "La Raza", as shown time and time again, is best translated into American English as "The People" or "The Community."

But, I have to admit, all the Trump sycophants are consistant in their lies and misrepresentations in this regard.


"Raza" literally means "race", as in ethnic background. By capitalizing "raza" as they do, "La Raza", the literal translation is "THE RACE". They are singling it out as "the only" race, above all others. One shouldn't have to be a linguistic scholar to understand this fact, but it seems no one less than that gets it.

It's much like how Democrats are called "Democratic", notice the capital "D" there, despite the fact "democratic" is not what they are... as in the definition of the word "democratic" is "of, relating to, or supporting democracy or its principles". A Republican in the USA is just as "democratic" as they are. Those "Democratic" people are Democrats, they belong to the "Democrat" party and their conventions are "Democrat" conventions; they are all "Democrat" candidates, senators and representatives, governors and on and on. They have co-opted an adjective which bears little actual resemblance to how they operate.

Republicans aren't marketing themselves as "Republicanic" are they? No.
Libertarians aren't "Libertarianic" either.
Why? They're not that stupid.



posted on Jun, 11 2016 @ 01:48 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: syrinx high priest
where are judge curiels quotes ?

I can't find them


Woah, woah, woah, so now it's not enough that someone can associate themselves with a group lead by someone who has been caught with openly anti-American and anti-white (racist) objectives which are quoted in the OP, they now have to be caught saying the same or you refuse to believe it?

That isn't how it works with conservatives. You get caught associating even in the smallest six degrees of Kevin Bacon way with anyone or any group who might possibly have said something that anyone on the left considers to be racist/sexist/homophobic/Islamophobic/etc. then you have to disavow it and apologize for life, the universe, and everything and likely resign too, and then you are considered notorious forever after.

This is why Trump is so popular. He doesn't care and I think a large part of the country has just plain stopped caring, and you guys have only yourselves to blame for this.


They will simply move the goalpost wherever it seems fit.


No need to move any goalposts: OP talks about two different organizations started at two different times by different people.

But, hey, as long as it has "La Raza" in the name, its the same thing, amirite?

Just like ... La Raza Newspaper in Chicago IL or the Galeria de La Raza in San Francisco, or the La Raza Markets, or the La Raza Restaurants ... ALL THE SAM THING! (Actually, in a way they are ... as the phrase means "The People" or "The Community" but I digress.)


Yep, you've digressed... to the point where you don't know what you're talking about.

La Raza, literally translated means "The Race". But I just said that in my post above.
It doesn't have any literal or figurative connotation regarding people or community.



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