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originally posted by: Gothmog
How we CELEBRATE people killing & getting killed in pursuit of EMPIRE
What ya mean we ? Speak for yourself and not for me in this one. I dont "celebrate" Memorial Day . I remember all the military that paid the ultimate price for our freedom . Today or tomorrow , please dont give me a truckload of BS as I need no fertilizer on my yard.
originally posted by: CantStandIt
We don't CELEBRATE Memorial Day around here... we OBSERVE it.
originally posted by: AmericanRealist
Many soldiers have sacrificed for what they believe in.
Empire is the story of mankind. It did not start with America, but we sure did learn how to perfect it .
The security apparatus in place today ensures this empire will easily survive another century. In fact due to the rate of technological innovation and superiority, it is likely the only thing that can stop this empire now is a geological event of apocalyptic proportions (whole Earth affected), a galactic event of similar proportions (also with similar consequences), or an unbeatable biological threat, again with similar consequences. Basically time will not stop this empire for at least another century. It would take something world ending to end this empire this century.
America's death toll on the world:
Native Americans: approx 10 million
Philippines: approx 1 million
Vietnam: 3+ million
US Bombs Laos: 350,000+
US role in Cambodia: 600,000 dead and 1,000,000+ wounded
Cambodia under Pol Pot: 2 million massacred
US backed Indonesia against defenseless East Timor: over 600,000, 1/3 of the population
US coerced Indonesia to annex West Papau in 1969:
The Indoensian genocides continue to this day:
CIA essentially puts Saddam hussein into power
US arms Hussein
Hussein goes to war with Iran in 1980: 875,000+ dead
Hussein slaughters Iraqi Kurd's / other Iraqi's: 182,000 - 400,000
US gives Iraq green light to invade Kuwait:
US attacks iraq: 80,000
Iraqi's dead from US sanctions: 500,000 children dead
Iraqi's dead from US-Iraq War / occupation: over 600,000
El Salvador: 50,000-75,000
Argentina's Dirty War: 30,000
Operation CONDOR (Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Bolivia, Paraguay & Uruaguay): 80,000+ Dead/Disappeared
US trained assaulting forces in the 2nd Congo War: 3,800,000
CIA baited USSR in Afghanistan: 1,500,000+
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Its fallacious to decry that because other empires have / do / will exist that "we" have to be one too. That NATO has to be, etc.
You can have a 'federation' of allies banded against imperialism and it not have to be hegemonic / exploitative /etc. Unless you're an imperialist, I suppose.
Likewise, that whole 'evolution of human thought' would also apply to reaching out to the folks in the other empires, for it to be a grand evolution. But as long as you keep your mind with the eagle then we shall remain stuck on stupid, and oh so many more grave site in Arlington for us to stoke our national (imperial) identity with.