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It doesn't? Have you watched any Christian TV lately? Been to a church lately? Watched a Catholic mass? Let me guess...those aren't real Christians.
It isn't? Then why is someone claiming their Christianity here almost daily?
Just as with any religion of faith. You miss their spiritual angle too, because you're right, and they're the devil's spawn.
In this post Kets, you sound a bit like..."God, I thank you that I am not like other people--robbers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector." Or those Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, and so on.
"Christians are just more spiritual than other people, we can't help ourselves."
originally posted by: DeathSlayer
originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: DeathSlayer
No, just answering your title question, being a christian you should reject, publicly, the evil doctrine contained within your text (namely old testament, or some of Paul's teachings, as well as revelation), while also pushing for a more peaceful and tolerant world, also you should reject any notion of a certain death for humanity as that is advocating the destruction of our species, thus you are supporting a death cult. Otherwise, do whatever the hell you want to do, or you will continue to be measured under the same brush that propels you to write threads such as this.
It is my belief that the bible is God's living word and that includes the Old Testament. The bible is not some out dated manual needing to be revised.
Who am I to judge the word of God?
Who am I to judge the prophets and the saints?
Who are you to judge God and what give you that right?
originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: DeathSlayer
The Bible is history the world has moved on the Wizard of Oz won your God lost
Some are and some aren't. Just like anywhere, you have the good and the bad. If you are expecting me to point my finger at those dman, dirty Catholics ... or Baptists ... or Mormons ... or *insert denomination here*, you'll be waiting for a while.
Just like you shouldn't point your finger at all Christians, you shouldn't point your finger at all of even a single denomination or even a single congregation. Sure there may be some who are rotten through and through, but most will have their saints and their sinners like any community, even the atheist one.
No one said the other faiths cannot be spiritual, but they also place heavy emphasis on outward demonstrations of faith to prove it.
So maybe you ought to back off your high horse before you bang your head on something.
originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Is this is what you think?
The reason for this thread is not to convert anyone to Christianity but for those who claim to be Christian and are not. It is my intention to show you the door. As a Christian I am getting more and more upset with the idiots online on the internet who claim to be Christian but yet reject the teachings of the bible..... the same here at ATS. They say on thing but yet do another. If a person rejects any part of the Christian bible than that person can NOT be a Christian..... can you see this?
A Christian is someone who makes mistakes from time to time just like a Jew or a Muslim. Actually I would say a high percentage of people parading around telling people they are Christian actually are not. Often many have not been schooled properly with a church approved bible study class for a few years. Studying God's word, ongoing prophecies, this alone can take a lifetime to understand.
Just because you come from an alleged Christian home does not mean you know God's word. It also does not mean you know what all is in the bible unless you study it....over and over again for a decade or more. That is what I like about some atheist..... some have more knowledge of the bible than some Christians.... so what does that say about some Christians? It tells you they are not Christian. How many Christians say they are Christian but have never been baptized? Infants do NOT get baptized ...... the baby is only dedicated to God. Baptism is a full body immersion in water, not some water poured on the top of your head. So you see many think they are baptized when actually they are not. If you claim to be a Christian and have NOT been baptized (Entire body and head immersed in water) then do so as soon as possible. Baptism and Christianity go hand in hand since John the Baptist. It is a free service from the church. And if you do not belong to a church but seek out the baptism send me a PM and I will find the place near your home ....... a form of brotherly love.
How many times have you watched your favorite film and each time you see something new? Same thing here.... each time I read the bible I learn something new and you will too. So how many times should you read the bible from cover to cover? Once, twice or maybe my entire life? Reading and hearing God's word brings faith into your life and it will get brighter and brighter as you continue to walk with God and study his word. Fail to do this and the light weakens until it goes out AND THIS IS MY POINT. If you have no faith then the light is gone and rest assure you are not a Christian.
At what point is a Christian perfect? Can a Christian be perfect in this world and NEVER make another mistake? Of course not.
What about those who are new to the faith? Do they slip up form time to time? Of course.
What about those who are learning and growing with their faith? of course they trip and fall from time to time.
My point? Christians are NOT perfect and I have never met one who said he/she was BUT those who hate Christians have judged us all in one basket or maybe a Christian says something .... there is ALWAYS that one person who can not wait to point out their faults. Most haters only have a few points to lash back at Christians..... and it is on constant replay throughout ATS. Originality is nowhere to be found.... only rehashing events that took place in the past... some corrected others not.
Are you aware that in the Bible it does in fact say to judge others? Do you know this and do you know why? To correct someone ... it can be seen as being judgemental BUT it is NOT. It is done to keep our fellow brothers and sisters on the path to our God. We also reach out to others who make this same mistakes and if they refuse to change then fine.....
We all need help and from time to time we need someone to help us back on our feet and help us realign our sights on the goal.... heaven. This is done with correcting oneself and others and this is done out of brotherly love and not being judgemental.
Something many of you will NEVER understand is the meaning of love and how it is taught in the bible. Discipline comes with love, many of you can not understand this. Read Hebrew Chapter 12 how it talks about how God disciplines his children because he loves them or read the entire bible where even in Genesis God speaks of how one day his son will come to crush the serpents head or that he sent his ONLY begotten son to earth to be sacrificed. Can you do this with your child? I can not.... so am I failure? No.
Do I hate? YES There are many things I hate on this planet and I can not love everyone. Just one of my many faults in life.
Can I kill another person? If in the military or defending my life or my family's life the answer is YES and without thinking twice.
We are not Gods....... we are not a god......I am not God..... I am a mortal being as you are.
So stop putting Christians on a pedestal we make mistakes. And to those who are posing..... hell is full of posers...
If a person rejects any part of the Christian bible than that person can NOT be a Christian..... can you see this?
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
How should i know? Thats between you and the god that lives in your head. You are the one who needs supernatural salvation to feel good about yourself.
originally posted by: DeathSlayer
a reply to: Woodcarver
so... In short. He is your scapegoat. Your golden ticket that allows forgiveness for all of the horrible things you like to do.
What horrible things do I do?
Are the things I do worst or better than what you do?
What makes you better than me?
“Every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit.”—MATT. 7:17.
How are Christ’s true followers set apart from the false, especially during this time of the end?
JESUS said that those falsely professing to serve him would be distinguished from his true followers by their fruits—their teachings and their conduct. (Matt. 7:15-17, 20) Indeed, people are inevitably influenced by what they take into their mind and heart.* (Matt. 15:18, 19) Those who are fed falsehoods produce “worthless fruit,” whereas those who are taught spiritual truth produce “fine fruit.” [* = also see my sig and the details under my name]
The two kinds of fruits have become clearly manifest during this time of the end. (Read Daniel 12:3, 10.) False Christians have a distorted view of God and often a hypocritical form of godly devotion, whereas those having spiritual insight worship God “with spirit and truth.” (John 4:24; 2 Tim. 3:1-5) They strive to display Christlike qualities. But what about us personally? As you consider the following five identifying marks of true Christianity, ask yourself: ‘Do my conduct and teachings clearly harmonize with God’s Word?
In your struggle against that sin, you have never yet resisted to the point of having your blood shed. 5 And you have entirely forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons: “My son, do not belittle the discipline from Jehovah, nor give up when you are corrected by him; 6 for those whom Jehovah loves he disciplines, in fact, he scourges everyone whom he receives as a son.” [Paul is referring to Proverbs 3:11,12 where without any doubt God's name is used twice, once in each verse]
7 You need to endure as part of your discipline. God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father? 8 But if you have not all shared in receiving this discipline, you are really illegitimate children, and not sons. 9 Furthermore, our human fathers used to discipline us, and we gave them respect. Should we not more readily submit ourselves to the Father of our spiritual life and live? 10 For they disciplined us for a short time according to what seemed good to them, but he does so for our benefit so that we may partake of his holiness. 11 True, no discipline seems for the present to be joyous, but it is painful; yet afterward, it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
Jesus told his listeners: “You must . . . be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” How can humans today “be perfect”?—Matt. 5:48.
The key to answering this question lies in understanding how the words “perfect” and “perfection” are used in the Bible. Not everything that the Scriptures describe as “perfect” may be so in an absolute sense. Of course, Jehovah possesses such absolute perfection. People or things can be perfect only in a relative sense. The Hebrew and Greek Bible words translated “perfect” often mean “complete,” “mature,” or “faultless” according to standards set by an authority. In everyday speech, the word is generally used in a relative sense. The expression “perfect weather” is one example.
Adam and Eve were created perfect morally, spiritually, and physically. They were perfect according to the standard set by their Creator. Because of disobedience, they did not measure up to this standard and therefore lost perfection for themselves and their offspring. Thus it was through Adam that sin, imperfection, and death were passed on to humankind.—Rom. 5:12.
As Jesus made plain in the Sermon on the Mount, however, even imperfect people can be perfect in a relative sense. In that discourse, he set standards for perfect, or complete, love. This is love such as that shown by God toward humankind. Jesus said: “Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those persecuting you; that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise upon wicked people and good and makes it rain upon righteous people and unrighteous.” (Matt. 5:44, 45) By showing love to this extent, Jesus’ disciples would be imitating God’s perfect example.
“If you love those loving you, what reward do you have?” asked Jesus. “Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? And if you greet your brothers only, what extraordinary thing are you doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing?” (Matt. 5:46, 47) True Christians do not show partiality toward people of certain educational or ethnic backgrounds; nor do they extend love only to those who are able to reciprocate.
5. How is the Christian congregation different from ancient Israel, and how does this difference manifest itself?
5 Loyalty to Christ is not the only reason that true Christians are neutral. Unlike ancient Israel, which had a God-given land allocation, we are part of an international brotherhood. (Matthew 28:19; 1 Peter 2:9) Thus, if we were to rally to the side of local political parties, both our freeness of speech in regard to the Kingdom message and our Christian unity would be severely compromised. (1 Corinthians 1:10) Furthermore, during war time, we would be fighting against fellow believers, whom we are commanded to love. (John 13:34, 35; 1 John 3:10-12) With good reason, then, Jesus told his disciples to lay down the sword. And he even told them to love their enemies.—Matthew 5:44; 26:52; see the box “Am I Remaining Neutral?”
EARLY CHRISTIAN NEUTRALS
Secular history provides ample evidence that the early Christians remained politically neutral and refrained from warfare. Says the book The Beginnings of Christianity: “The founders of Christianity guarded with sedulous care against the development of anything like a disposition to interfere directly with the established political order.” Similarly, the book On the Road to Civilization notes: “Early Christianity was little understood and was regarded with little favor by those who ruled the pagan world. . . . Christians refused to share certain duties of Roman citizens. . . . They would not hold political office.”
Regarding the early Christians and military service, German theologian Peter Meinhold said: “Being a Christian and a soldier was considered irreconcilable.” In his essay “An Inquiry Into the Accordancy of War With the Principles of Christianity,” religion writer Jonathan Dymond wrote that for some time after the death of Jesus, His followers “refused to engage in [war]; whatever were the consequences, whether reproach, or imprisonment, or death.” Dymond added: “These facts are indisputable.” Only when “Christianity became corrupted,” said another writer, did Christians become soldiers.
Advaita Vedanta is a school of Hindu philosophy and religious practice...
Like other Vedanta teachers, he says that while creation and creator appear to be different and separate, that they are actually two sides of the same coin.
originally posted by: Padawan Parazurvan Googlemiser
You really have no say in who is and who isn't a Christian due to the whole freedom of religion thing.