HB2, North Carolina mandate to hate homosexuals.

How many effing times do we need to have this same core discussion? Current threads here include:

Porn Site Bans North Carolina Users Due To State’s Anti-LGBT Laws

North Carolina Loses 400 Jobs as PayPal Pulls Facility over ‘Bathroom Bill

Kansas lawmakers want to pay students who 'out' trans students

Michael Moore Boycotts North Carolina: You Anti-Gay Bigots Don’t Get to See My Latest Flop

Gay Rights Hypocrisy: Bryan Adams boycotts Mississippi, has no problem doing shows in Egypt

Apple speaks out against new Mississippi religious freedom law

As Kaylaluv pointed out, this is just a witch hunt and retribution.

It also happens to be part of the official Republican National Committee Platform

Amid consideration in state legislatures of “papers to pee” bathroom bills aimed against transgender students, the Republican National Committee has approved a resolution endorsing the legislation.

The resolution, approved under the chairmanship of Reince Priebus, condemns as “governmental overreach” the Obama administration’s interpretation of Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 to prohibit discrimination against transgender students.

“The Republican National Committee calls on the Department of Education to rescind its interpretation of Title IX that wrongly includes facility use issues by transgender students,” the resolution says. The “whereas” portion of the resolution defines gender as “the physical condition of being male or female,” saying gender is identified at birth and can be confirmed with a DNA test — which is contrary to the experience of transgender people.

The resolution also specifies Congress never included the term “gender identity” under Title IX and identifies courts that have ruled the gender provisions under the law don’t apply to transgender students.

Please at least skim some of these existing threads for a better look at the situation and why these laws are heinous and damaging and don't deny for a second that "bathroom bills" are aimed squarely at anyone other than the T in LGBT.

Good thing we have laws to protect us when we use the bathroom.

Bunch of snowflakes on the right behing fearfull of using bathrooms lol.

Same excuses different story.

If there is no place for people to go who fit the criteria of transitional, whether it be by neutral single person at a time use bathrooms, or the more "extreme" (but remarkably less expensive) go with your identity;

they are in essence criminalizing the private details of a person when sewage laws and human waste laws and standards of public or private relief continue to exist.

When criminal or civil penalties are the answer to noncompliance towards public defecation and urination this is sort of a problem.

a reply to: network dude

"That is all."

Except not quite, as Ante pointed out. It wasn't just about bathrooms. The bathroom issue is simply the biggest point of contention in the media. The state law undid protections that the Charlotte ordinance, as well as Greensboro and other cities (including some in SC) have enacted for the LBGT folks.

Even McCrory went on record as saying that though he felt it was necessary to sign the bill to maintain the state's sovereignty, he knew the bill was flawed when he signed it. Which is why he's issued an executive order that puts the protections back in place in regards to sexual orientation and identity for state employees and is pushing the legislature to reverse the right to sue over discrimination.

It's not all about the bathroom issue.

originally posted by: network dude

The NC bill HB2, made it no longer possible for a city in NC to pass a sweeping law like this. Now it must be done at the state level. That is all. There was no mandate to be mean to LGBT people, or to limit any rights they had previously. Only to put a little common sense into things that shouldn't need to be explained in the first place.

HB2 - - - - is like CA telling - - - West Hollywood they can't make legal decisions that fit their demographic.

Its pretty simple what they did and what the intent is.

originally posted by: Shamrock6

Even McCrory went on record as saying that though he felt it was necessary to sign the bill to maintain the state's sovereignty, he knew the bill was flawed when he signed it. Which is why he's issued an executive order that puts the protections back in place in regards to sexual orientation and identity for state employees and is pushing the legislature to reverse the right to sue over discrimination.

In case anyone is unfamiliar with McCrory's attempt to backpedal or "fix" this heinous law:

North Carolina Governor Issues Executive Order In Attempt To “Clarify” Anti-LGBT Law

And as to why this is simply nothing but lip service and bull.

McCrory’s Executive Order 93: Hoist By His Own Petard

Over in Korea, they got a bucket in the corner. Men use it. Women use it. Kids use it. Men who want to be women use it. Women who want to be men use it. How does sexuality, urination and defecation combine into some type of moral argument? If one developed and deployed deeper insight into this and similar constructs, you would arrive at one big belly laugh.

originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
Over in Korea, they got a bucket in the corner. Men use it. Women use it. Kids use it. Men who want to be women use it. Women who want to be men use it. How does sexuality, urination and defecation combine into some type of moral argument? If one developed and deployed deeper insight into this and similar constructs, you would arrive at one big belly laugh.

This country, America, has been working toward getting out from under Fundamental Christian control for a long time.

We are, but they have a strong hold.

It is happening, but they continue to fight for their life. They are losing.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Khaleesi

Here you go:

A lawyer’s perspective on why HB2 is a plague infested rat

“This Article does not create, and shall not be construed to create or support, a statutory or common law private right of action, and no person may bring any civil action based upon the public policy expressed herein.”

Eliminating “civil actions” simply means “cannot sue” and not being able to sue, or go to court, puts workers right back where they were in the 1970s. That is, for the first time in decades, North Carolina courts closed their doors to those fired because of their race, sex, age, disability, national origin, or religion. Those wrongfully terminated are left with only federal discrimination laws, which are largely inferior to the now defunct state discrimination claims. North Carolina joins Mississippi as the only two states that do not offer their citizens state law protection against the most basic forms of discrimination. Let that sink in.

Thanks.

Great article.

a reply to: Khaleesi

And for a few additional thoughts about this:

Anti-Transgender Bathroom Bills are Unconstitutional

North Carolina’s New Anti-LGBTQ Law Is Vicious, Shameful, and Unconstitutional

Anti-Trans Bathroom Bills Have Nothing to Do With Privacy and Everything To Do With Fear and Hatred

But let’s get real, these bills aren’t motivated by privacy concerns — they’re motivated by ignorance, misinformation and fear. Many people, particularly social conservatives, find transgender people, at best, curiosities, and, at worst, less than human, even if the more political hide their disgust with carefully crafted language. The bill’s sponsor in Tennessee, Republican Rep. Susan Lynn, called her measure “very friendly.” Trans students may mistake her kindness for cruelty because forcing transgender people to use the wrong restroom will have terrible consequences for their very real privacy interests as well as their safety.

Transgender people, whether people know it or not, are already using the bathrooms they have a right to, and doing so without incident. In fact, hundreds of localities and school districts across the country have created more welcoming environments for all, including transgender people, and mayors and law enforcement leaders and others have said nondiscrimination protections actually make their cities safer. Laws like North Carolina’s and bills like Tennessee’s, if enacted, mean transgender people will have to make the impossible decision of breaking the law or revealing their private medical information. Not to mention the obvious risk of harassment and violence that comes with forcing transgender women into men’s restrooms and transgender men into women’s restrooms. The fear of violence is already a daily reality for transgender people, and bills like these could very well make it unsafe for trans people to go out in public if they become law.

What concerns me the most is what this is going to do to transgender kids in schools and universities. It boils my blood, actually.

a reply to: FullBloodedNative

Brilliant!

Add to that:

More Republican Politicians Than Trans People Have Been Arrested For Sex Acts in Bathrooms

And

Zero Trans People Have Been Arrested For Bathroom Misconduct—But These Three Republicans Were

And

More GOP Lawmakers Arrested For Sexual Misconduct In Bathrooms Than Trans People

And this is worth a read:

Debunking The Big Myth About Transgender-Inclusive Bathrooms

Okay, who is the big predator here?

ETA: Forgot one!

How Dennis Hastert Demonized Gays as Predators While He Was the True ‘Super-Predator’

Cirque du Soleil Adds Its Shows to Protest of North Carolina's Law

a reply to: FullBloodedNative

There is a difference between the NAMBLA crew that has invaded the halls of power and actual Christians. If you think Hassert was a Christian you are mistaken.

I really dont see the big issue here. If you are a woman, use the woman's bathroom. If you are a man, use the mens room. If you are confused, use the bathroom before you leave home.

Dont expect to dress like a woman being a man and follow a 7 year old into the woman's bathroom. If you cant see the derangement in that visual, you are as sick as the pedos that want to perpetrate this fraud. I could care less about your snowflake feelings. That 7 year old deserves her privacy without a freak of nature playing make believe so he can go in and rape the young lady.

a reply to: RepealTheLaw

My deepest apologies for doing this AGAIN but I feel obligated.

These are your daughters or nieces or sisters in schools across the country from K-12.





How would you feel about them being in the bathroom with men?

a reply to: RepealTheLaw

So, what is your plan to stop female pedophiles from following that little girl? Or male pedo's from following that little boy in the bathroom?

a reply to: Freija

Female and male pedo's look normal and most likely have been in their bathroom.

How about make a children only bathroom? Will that help or are you now worried about these transgenders coming for you and you would have difficulty resisting them because, well all it takes is for trans, or gay to make their moves and your caught in their evil snare...lol

a reply to: FullBloodedNative

Social norms dictate that you use the bathroom that your genitals dictate. I would say serious jail time other wise.

a reply to: Freija

What is your point with this post? If they are female, they go in the female bathroom. If they are male, they go into the mens room. How hard is that?

If you are a confused person, go to the bathroom before you leave home..

Another blow

Cirque Du Soleil Scraps Shows In Protest Over North Carolina’s Anti-LGBT Law

Cirque du Soleil has canceled its upcoming performances in North Carolina, joining the growing ranks of entertainers and businesses who have done the same in protest over HB 2, the state’s controversial new anti-LGBT law.

I think soon NC will have to rethink this law