Bernie Sanders - 'When You're White You Don't Know What It's Like To Be Poor'

a reply to: neo96

The broad strokes of hatred. The cancer that revealed itself in this thread. Those who take issue with Bernie while condoning the murder of innocent families.

I'll take Bernies broad strokes anyday over someone who believes in using our troops to intentionally murder innocent children.

Bernie's not perfect but he's not making calls for torture and murder. Anyone who agrees with that needs some intense soul searching.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

The broad strokes of hatred. The cancer that revealed itself in this thread. Those who take issue with Bernie while condoning the murder of innocent families.

Yeah Sanders supporters never listen to themselves such a shame.

I ask what crime has a fetus committed other than being a 'inconvenience', and being in the wrong place at the wrong time?

a reply to: Kitana

I'm sure he meant, "Let's go after the Terrorist's Families....So we can give them a big box of cookies."

After all, Trump is such a level headed person and always so rational and considerate about everything, right.

He's always the smartest guy, the best looking, always the winner, etc. etc. etc. Nope, no reason to be concerned about his ability the think clearly about something as complicated as Global Terrorism or Foreign Affairs. Just disregard everything he's ever said that has been shown to be completely untrue. Disregard the fact that even he said "by the time I'm elected I'll know more about "insert topic" than anyone else." Forget about his gigantic list of lies and half truths he says about himself.

Get real. This is a waste of time.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

When the topic first came up where he was specifically discussing killing, was in reference to ISIS using human shields in Iraq. Then he said "take them out"

Later, he did say he would 'go after the families of terrorists', but the context was different, and so was the wording. I am speaking of this later at current moment with someone who is on the same page here.

But yeah, do you kill the human shield in order to stop the terrorist from killing many many many lives, and harming even more? Yes. You would. But the situation that was presented was a hypothetical one, and thus, so was the answer a hypothetical one. Trump also said he would never break any international treaty, nor ask anyone to commit a war crime as president of the United States - not in a hypothetical context either, but a very serious one.

a reply to: neo96

So you take issue with abortion but not with an innocent family dragged from their home, men women and children, murdered?

And now that you once again imply your support of murder, what is your argument with Bernie? What great evil do you take issue with there?

a reply to: Kitana

He LATER said he wouldnt order an illegal action AFTER it was pointed out that generals would refuse the order. He then went further to suggest changing the laws to allow torture and other tougher measures. The guy was given many chances to recant. He clearly believes in torture and murder-- as do the people voting for him.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

One would be hard pressed to show a terrorist family is innocent.

See here in the states even if a person is just present during the commission of a felony they are guilty of said crime.

People like Sanders WROTE laws like that.

a reply to: neo96

You say one would be hard pressed to show the family is innocent? So you yet again defend the idea that troops should drag the families from their homes, children screaming, and execute them because they are 'probably' not that innocent. Wow. I'm not attacking you. Just your position is... Horrible.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

Are you seriously implying Trump didn't have a clue that the military has the obligation to refuse a direct order if its in violation? Really? A 3rd grader knows that, yet somehow you thought the media pointed something out he did not know even though he is running for office?

OMG you people are too much!

a reply to: spiritualzombie

So tell me do you think the San Bernadino shooters mom didn't know what her son and daughter in law was up to?

She did.

And we ALL know what happened.

How about getting back to the topic that was about Sanders asinine comment?

I know it's asking a lot.

a reply to: Kitana

Yes clearly like many of his stances he changes it after being educated on the issue. But the troubling thing here is even after being educated he still says he would change the laws to allow torture and worse. The guy believes in murder.

a reply to: neo96

So Neo, once again you believe without any evidence the San Bernardino shooters mom should be dragged from her home and executed despite her innocence?

Neo for the love of God... You need to take a breather and stop defending murder of innocence. wake up to what you're saying.

Whatever faults Bernie or Hillary have, this cancer of hatred displayed by the opposition can not be allowed to take power in the United States.

Being poor and in a ghetto (ever heard of a #ing trailer park Sanders?) has nothing to do with being poor. It's 50 degrees and raining where I live right now, and on my way to the store, I saw a White homeless man carrying a wet pillow and raggedy blanket on the street. That man is not going to sleep well tonight, if at all, and I got pissed off about Sanders ignorant statement all over again.

Not all Black people live in ghettos, and not all White people live in gated suburbs. My entire adolescent life, I grew up in neighborhoods that were majority minority - by a wide margin, I'm talking in my first elementary school I was one of 6 White students in the entire school, and my brother sister made up 2 of the other 5. I didn't have my first pair of name brand shoes until I was 16 and bought them my damn self after getting a job. Somehow though, most of my fellow students throughout school managed to get free or reduced lunch while wearing Nikes, Jordans, Addidas, etc. While I was wearing my older brothers hand me down shirts and worn out pants and Kmart shoes that fell apart after a week, getting picked on by Black and Hispanic Students.

20 million people in the US live in trailer parks, trailer parks that get picked up and utterly destroyed by tornadoes, floods and other disasters every year. How this crusty old #bird can sit up there and tell the whole world those peoples suffering doesn't exist - the kids whose parents are abusive or drug addicts, felons, people driving 25 year old pickup trucks, who's only AC is a fan in the window in oppressive heat, people who can't get a job because there are none to be had in their rural counties, stuck in the same perpetual cycle of poverty that Sanders is claiming Black people have a monopoly on - completely blows my mind.

I honestly believe had I been in a room with Bernie Sanders and he said that out loud, I would have beat him within an inch of his miserable, frail existence. I've since calmed down, but of all the things him and Clinton have spouted this cycle - hell, you can even throw in Obama's ignorant ass statements over both of his terms, this one has probably angered me the most. I am the first generation in my family (along with my sister) to have ever attended college with a realistic chance of getting a degree (Associates, but still), my mother worked at a livestock feed store and worked for the county in child support - my father and step father were both truck drivers, my grand father opened up a small gas station in 1950's Las Vegas, hiring felons. I come from an extremely humble background, much more Humble than Sanders, and he thinks he can sit here and tell me I don't know what it's like to be poor? I guess my sleeping on a #ing army cot when I was 16 because my parent's couldn't afford to buy me a bed didn't #ing happen then? My wearing hand me down shirts, pants and shoes from my brothers in elementary and middle school must not have ever happened either? Oh, and the African American and Hispanic students that picked on my BECAUSE I was wearing worn out shoes, ripped pants, no jacket while they were wearing shiny new shoes and got new clothes every school year didn't happen either?

I had better stop typing at this point, it's not worth my time. Sanders is an old, rickety, hunch back, socialist dirt bag without the slightest grip on the real freaking world due in part to his virtually entire adult life of being a politician. I have other, real things to do.

a reply to: chuck258

If Bernie actually believed that I would agree with you. He was clearly talking about institutional racism and the criminal justice system.
You really think he honestly believes there are no poor white people? Come on. I'm white and came from a welfare family and took no offense to it, because while I understand how someone could be miffed by it, it's clearly not what he was talking about. It's a gaffe at worst.

a reply to: Kali74

The only institutionalized racism in 2016 America is affirmative action in government hiring and college admissions.

a reply to: Konduit

Well, looks like those who dislike Sanders finally got some ammunition to attack him with but it's not enough. Either way, those who don't like Sanders now will still not like him come November.

Sanders plays defense on debate 'ghetto' comment

a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Affirmative action is the response to institutional racism. And unfortunately there is strong reason why it's there.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: chuck258

If Bernie actually believed that I would agree with you. He was clearly talking about institutional racism and the criminal justice system.
You really think he honestly believes there are no poor white people? Come on. I'm white and came from a welfare family and took no offense to it, because while I understand how someone could be miffed by it, it's clearly not what he was talking about. It's a gaffe at worst.

And when Trump made his comment about ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? And the entirety of the left jumped down his throat for so called "racism". If you are gonna play that way with Trump, you have to play that way with Sanders. There are a dozen ways Sanders could have spoken about supposed institutionalized racism, but he chose to race bait and claim Whites don't know what it's like to be poor. Isn't your lot ALWAYS railing on about "painting people with a broad brush"?! Always, I constantly hear when we are talking about a specific group, Muslim terrorists for example. People like you, the first thing out of your mouth is along the lines of "Not all Muslims are terrorists" - because someone said something about MUSLIM terrorists. He'll, Obama can't even say Islamic Extremism, even if that is EXACTLY what is at issue. So how about you and your buddies fix that before you try and take up for Sanders, otherwise you are just a bunch of hypocrites, and before you go running to the mods, I don't mean that as an insult. It's exactly what you are doing when you say "don't paint ALL Muslims with a broad brush", then when Progs spout out stupid s*** like Sanders here, all of a sudden he's apparently not painting us with a broad brush, even though he explicitly states, without clarification, or that hes talking about say, rich White people, that White people don't know what its like to be poor.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Affirmative action is the response to institutional racism. And unfortunately there is strong reason why it's there.

Self fulfilling program, perhaps?

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Affirmative action is the response to institutional racism. And unfortunately there is strong reason why it's there.

Affirmative Action was designed to combat the REAL institutionalized racism that was in place in the 60s-70s and 80s. That was 30 years ago. It simply is not at the level that it used to be at, but Affirmative Action is still chugging along at full speed. It needs to be replaced. I will never deny that racism and discrimination still exists (on ALL sides), but it is at a point now where issues can be addressed on a "case by case" basis (relatively speaking of course). It screws over Asians when they are pursuing higher education, and most corporations have internal policies themselves to address diversity in the work place. Don't get me started on government jobs.