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Bernie Sanders - 'When You're White You Don't Know What It's Like To Be Poor'

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posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 02:01 AM
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a reply to: NthOther




Dropped the ball, man? How about he proved himself to be what all politicians are: slimy little bastards. All of them. Every single one. Even Bernie Sanders. Even Ron Paul. Every. Single. One. It's never going to change. Do not put your future in the hands of your government.


I wasn't defending him or his statement.. He dropped the proverbial ball in the sense that I doubt slandering a demographic of the democratic voter base is going to get him the nomination...
How about you tell that to the rest of the members of this thread,I've been pretty dead set that the U.S government is at the point of no return to making things better for the average joe.




posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 02:12 AM
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My mother & I were homeless once in my teens. I think cumulatively, it was about 2 months or so in total? Not a dime, a few boxes of stuff, 2 cats & a car.

I can agree with Bernie in that I really don't, and hopefully won't, understand what it's like to be truly poor. Destitute poor. Sure, I WAS homeless. But it was a temporary deal, not lifelong. The rest of our belongings not in the boxes we hung on to were in a storage facility. It's why we didn't have a dime to spend (my mother's financial priorities were never all that great)

I've been all over the income ladder throughout my life, but I've never had to live year after year utterly destitute. My white butt can understand exactly what he means -- I DON'T know what it's like to live my entire life like that. TEMPORARY poverty isn't the same as living it day after day, month after month, year after year, generation after generation. We suck to an epic degree at making sure poverty-prone & heavy minorities are ok. Ask any Native American on a reservation. I'm sure they'd be more than willing to agree we temporarily po' white folk don't have any clue.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 02:27 AM
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first off sanders is jewish american, despite being a small demographic are in large part the wealthist americans so wtf is he talking about if your white lol he should of said if your jewish. #2 hes running for president in america not africa so dont bring poor africans into the topic to try and do damage control on what he said. #3 how do the white poor that supported him keep supporting sanders when they are not the poor people he promised to help. #4 sanders had a real chance to make a change and he instead back stabbed ron paul and the american people over the audit the fed bill. I would love to see him exit the race and hilary in court over over her top secret private emails on a personal server. sanders just killed his chances agaisnt anyone with that remark. I love that the left is imploding



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 02:33 AM
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originally posted by: Konduit


First and foremost I'm both a Sanders supporter as well as a Trump supporter and practically anyone who isn't propped up by the establishment.

But this has to be one of the biggest gaffes in the history of politics. I'm really disappointed. Not only has the racial pandering reached a whole new height but Sanders is literally stepping on the demographic that he does best with. And the fact that some of his supporters on social media, especially the SJW's, want to justify these words just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

I guess the people I see panhandling outside of my complex on a daily basis, which happen to be mostly white, is just my imagination running wild. I guess living out of a minivan for over a year while looking for a sustainable job was just a complete fantasy. I guess every time I get hassled by police for having tattoos and every time I get arrested for having a dime bag on me is just an urban legend.

Sorry, but I really felt the "Bern" on this one.



Bernie Sanders - 'When You're White You Don't Know What It's Like To Be Poor'

How the bloddy hell would he know? Has he been black?

By what authority does he make that statement? Is he implying that he does know what its like to black and poor?????

I'f I was black and poor I would regard this as an insult, just pissing in pockets to get votes.

Why has he never said this before? Is he only saying it now because he's campaigning for votes?

Is he only saying this to sucker the poor into voting for him?

This in my view, is an admission he is just resorting to very poor quality cynicism. If anything, it shows he has no appreciation of what its like to be poor at all and frankly, I don't think he gives a stuff about the poor, going by this statement.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 04:33 AM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
Affirmative action is the response to institutional racism. And unfortunately there is strong reason why it's there.


And it was not the right response; you don't combat racism by using racism to achieve that goal. The same way you don't remedy "gender inequality" through the use of quotas that are sexist.

Anybody that supports affirmative action or gender quotas actually support the very things they claim to be against.

As long as a single white person or male that had nothing to do with either institutionalised racism or gender inequality is discriminated against due to the colour of their skin and misses out on opportunities because of that fact alone, an injustice has occurred.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 04:59 AM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Konduit

He's talking about institutional racism which is something most white people don't understand and certainly no white person in this country has ever experienced. He's right and a lot of people of all skin tones agree.

ETA: LOL @ people knee-jerking and crying pandering. The topic of institutional racism is an ongoing discussion/debate and something Bernie has subscribed to since the 60's.


Still BS.

Guess you don't know many Irish do you?
Or hillbillies? You know the people that live in the hills of WV?
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posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 05:05 AM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

'When You're White American You Don't Know What It's Like To Be Poor'


Fixed that for da bern. Even at his most miserable times during the 30 years he could not keep a private sector job, no matter how much of a failure he has been during his entire waste of time on this planet, he has never been as bad off as truly poor people in the rest of the world.

This is not an insult to Americans. This is pointing out how well we have it in this country, that our poor are better off than what other countries consider middle-class or even affluent.


Now I can agree about that.

We DO have really poor people in the US, BUT most of the people we call poor do still live better then middle class in a lot of countries.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 05:25 AM
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a reply to: Nyiah

Good for you.

Some of us DO know.

Even if ONE white person knows, it makes his statement wrong.

He put his foot in his mouth, then tried to wash it over, while speaking with said foot still in his mouth.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 05:35 AM
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a reply to: chuck258

Yes!

I agree!!

In my middle school I was one of nine "white" kids.

I have never been as angry at a political figure before as I am with Sanders.

What he said was ignorant, stupid, and flat out wrong.

How dare he belittle yours, mine, or any other white person's struggle.

Just proves what an opportunistic POS he really is.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 05:54 AM
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Just thought this was a nice break from the bickering.




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posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 06:13 AM
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Again, bull. Maybe your white butt has never known perpetual poverty, but some of us have. It is an exceptional lie, being completely blind to the truth within your own country to say no white person has ever known perpetual poverty and discrimination based on where your from.


Oh bull. I have never met a black person of my age in this country who grew up without running water. OUR running water was us kids running to go get it. Boiling it for baths. Getting it from the darn spring some couple hundred feet from our house.

Your statement is complete BS. You have no idea what poverty is, heck, a ghetto is heaven compared to here.. they get public transportation so they can go for work, school, grocery shopping, doctors appointments, they get free phones from the government, they have every single advantage in life.

You can quit talking about no white person knows, you have no idea what white people know!
www.abovetopsecret.com...

How many mountain folk have gone into the cities for work, and been discriminated against if our accent shows even a little bit, treated as if they are less than human because of the way they speak and their mannerisms? LOTS. As a matter of fact, accent can be a bar to getting a good position in a company if one's accent shows - and it takes time to drop that accent even in an area that is accent free, because this is how you talk.


If you people want to know about poverty come to the place in America full of white people that people from 3rd world nations say is worse than any 3rd world nation they have ever been to, as far as poverty is concerned.

There is no spin to what he said, that is not insulting to me. You cannot spin doctor such an ignorant statement.

But here's the difference, we want JOBS.


And this is the difference, we prefer being employed to hand outs, we learned long long ago how to live and support large families on next to nothing, we learned how to survive and we don't cry woah is me all the time, we pick ourselves up, and do what we have to do with what we have to do it with. MOST white people do, and that right there is the difference. Fathers don't leave so the mom can get more welfare, women don't stay single because they know the worth of a man is more than the worth of government help.

Black people in ghettos have it good, they have every advantage, they have public transportation and every single convenience to help them out in their poverty - while we are ignored and treated as if we simply don't exists, as if we are the red headed step child who does not matter by people like Sanders, or simply a talking point by others and by others a way to line their own pockets.

Screw your white privilege, its a privilege most of us never once saw. And yes, its demeaning - its damned demeaning. ALL of it, is just demeaning. Whether it be people trying to line their pockets with handouts, or people saying we simply don't exist and don't know poverty, it's all just demeaning.

www.sullivan-county.com...


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posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Having paid attention in the past 10 years to the news, rather than skip it as I once did, there are many things that can be stated. This is one position in the government that is getting all of the attention, the Executive branch of the government.

All of the candidates have a good idea, and they point them out, however partisan politics is making it where the other side does not want to admit such. Many of the hot button issues, they both ignore and talk a good game, but when it comes to actually doing something about such, they ignore it or fail to get such done.

Right now this is part of the political process, and what the candidates are hoping to do, is gather a base who will support them and encourage their friends to vote for them in the upcoming election. And the problem is that partisan politics as it stands, is leaving many of them damaged.

Sanders is a socialist, who supported Castro, and the others. While some see that as a bad thing, perhaps it is not, cause it shows that his take on foreign policy is not to enforce an idea on a people who do not want that. The old ways of dealing with countries we do not like, do not work, and often has terrible results in the long run. If after 50 years Cuba, has not changed, perhaps the policy of isolating them is not the answer to getting them change. But nor is getting involved in another countries politics either, like say Iran. The USA laid the groundwork for the Iran we all know and fear today.

Is there injustice in this country, yes there is. Is it something that has to change, yes, but like all movements like that, I can tell you how it will end, and in about 40 years the country is going to be going through the exact same thing again.

And the illegal immigrant problem is no longer something so simple as deporting a whole bunch of people, the system is a joke at best and broken, that both sides agree on, as far as how to deal with no one really knows how to or what all to do.

So the choices that people will have will be to vote or not to vote. To vote means that they will have to choose between a Democrat that is damaged, a socialist, a racist bigot who is looking more and more like a dictator, and a Republican that seems to embrace religious extremism, the ladder 2 would march us off to war.

On a side note, to hold a persons political views against them is no better than the political witch hunts of the late 1950's when Sen. Joseph McCarthy did it back then. It never ends well and ultimately caused more problems and strife for the entire population.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 07:48 AM
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White guilt, white guilt, white guilt...



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 08:15 AM
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What an idiot! We had baloney and bread for years. Never got anything for free or stole anything...



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 08:49 AM
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posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 09:16 AM
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originally posted by: Konduit


First and foremost I'm both a Sanders supporter as well as a Trump supporter and practically anyone who isn't propped up by the establishment.

But this has to be one of the biggest gaffes in the history of politics. I'm really disappointed. Not only has the racial pandering reached a whole new height but Sanders is literally stepping on the demographic that he does best with. And the fact that some of his supporters on social media, especially the SJW's, want to justify these words just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

I guess the people I see panhandling outside of my complex on a daily basis, which happen to be mostly white, is just my imagination running wild. I guess living out of a minivan for over a year while looking for a sustainable job was just a complete fantasy. I guess every time I get hassled by police for having tattoos and every time I get arrested for having a dime bag on me is just an urban legend.

Sorry, but I really felt the "Bern" on this one.


I am a Sanders supporter, but yes this disappoints me.

This is a sign of the times. Social justice madness has taken over to the level that to get ahead in many fields, or even just do well, you have to pander to the ideology.

And what aggravates me is not the *real* goals of SJ, i.e. equality, anti-racism, etc, but that these idiotic and irrational statements are now acceptable.

"Only black people are poor." "Only white people can be racist." "Only white people are privileged."

And if you question it you are racist or blinded by privilege.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 09:21 AM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Konduit

He's talking about institutional racism which is something most white people don't understand and certainly no white person in this country has ever experienced. He's right and a lot of people of all skin tones agree.

ETA: LOL @ people knee-jerking and crying pandering. The topic of institutional racism is an ongoing discussion/debate and something Bernie has subscribed to since the 60's.


With all due respect, one can speak about institutional racism without making ridiculous SJW-esque statements. For example, one can be both an ally fighting against racism and ALSO not believe that no white people have experienced real poverty.

I don't think these broad generalizations or stereotypes actually help the social justice movement. They in fact alienate people.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 09:27 AM
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Full quote:

"I was with young people in the Black Lives Matter movement. A young lady comes up to me and says you don't understand what the police do in certain black communities. You don't understand the degree to which we are terrorized. I'm not just talking about the shootings we have seen that we have to end. I'm talking about the everyday activities where police officers are bullying people. You don't know what its like to be living in a ghetto and to be poor. You don't know what it's like to be hassled when you walk down the street or get dragged out of a car. I believe as a nation in 2016 we must be firm in making it clear: we will end institutional racism and reform a broken criminal justice system."



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: burgerbuddy

He is talking about generational poverty among a group who has suffered systematic racism for a couple of hundred years (in this country).

Whites as a whole have not suffered generational poverty, or faced systematic racism throughout the history of this country.


Yes, but some have. Just as some people of color HAVE NOT. I personally know some very poor white people with little life prospects, and know some incredibly privileged people of color who come from elite families. People whose parents can get them a condo in Manhattan without blinking an eye. You know, the type that are like $5000 a month...

For sociological and social justice purposes, we do have to look at big data and recognize that more people of color are disadvantaged than white people. And we have to recognize the impact of historic oppression on people of color. However, what is NOT good is to ignore all individual cases and the exceptions.

This is what I see all of the time. A white dude who grew up with a hard set of life variables will be treated as more privileged (and dismissed more) in the social justice community than a person of color who had everything. This is obviously problematic if we are honest with ourselves. I can guarantee that despite SJWs beliefs, an impoverished white person who didn't have any education options really will face a much harder life than a person of color with the opposite. SJWs cannot recognize these class issues because it mitigates the narrative that being white automatically makes one more privileged.



posted on Mar, 8 2016 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: RainbowPhoenix

Last time I checked, Irish wasn't a race.


We also find that African-American children are more likely to experience poverty than are white children. These results have implications for adults: Individuals who were poor during childhood are more likely to be poor as adults than are those who were never poor, and this is especially true for African-Americans. Consequently, intergenerational poverty and persistent disadvantage impedes individuals’ ability to achieve the American Dream. Though there is considerable upward mobility in the United States, escaping poverty is difficult, and racial disadvantages mean that mobility out of poverty for African-Americans is far more difficult than it is for whites.



www.nccp.org...


Yes, but what you quoted is more accurate than what Sanders said. There is a difference between saying "More people of color are disadvantaged than white people" and "No white people are disadvantaged or poor."

The first is accurate and useful for social discourse and policy making. The second is not only inaccurate it is offensive and dismisses the communities of white people who are disadvantaged.
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