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See I do know history. Favourite subject in school actually. And there is that willful dishonesty you're so adept at. Pure socialism has never been attempted. The totalitarian forms of socialism that have been attempted haven't gone well at all. But the SOCIAL DEMOCRACIES, which is what YOU KNOW everyone in this thread is supporting are doing very well. I already asked you to name one social democracy that has failed and you can't.
Hey I couldn't agree more. I'm arguing FOR socialism up in here. Perhaps you should read my posts.
Pure socialism, communism (totalitarian socialism), social democracies all contain facets of socialism but are all different. Socialism in its pure form is the workers owning the means of production. NO ONE HAS DONE THAT. What this planet has that IS done and IS working is democracies which use capitalism as their economic system but also include social programs where the collective contributes for the betterment of all.
Furthermore I now live in the US. And what does the Finnish election have to do with anything? Just because a party with socialism in the title didn't form the government does not remove their socialized medicine or free college tuition, or free school lunches, paid family leave or child care.
originally posted by: macman
a reply to: Malynn
Just wondering......why is it that people opine for such crap, like Socialism and Communism here in the US?
There are soooo many fine countries that have these Govt types already operational. I mean, Cuba, Venezuela, China, N. Korea and so on I am sure would love to have you and the others with them.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: TheTory
Does anyone know the difference between Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism?
Which one is Bernie Sanders?
One is a system of government. The other is a political ideology.
Sanders fits in to the latter.